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DefHalan

Klimbatize wrote:

You know what would be cool? If Nintendo just made all their games 50% off (except rare downloads). Who's with me?

Lets push it further, Nintendo should make all their games free and release them on other systems so I don't have to buy their systems to play their games.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

ZuneTattooGuy

Klimbatize wrote:

You know what would be cool? If Nintendo just made all their games 50% off (except rare downloads). Who's with me?

A.) what's a rare download? If you can download it doesn't that cease it from being rare?

B.) I am not talking about a huge discount either but $60 for physical and $55 for digital would be great

Gamertag: GoingTheDist

DefHalan

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

Klimbatize wrote:

You know what would be cool? If Nintendo just made all their games 50% off (except rare downloads). Who's with me?

A.) what's a rare download? If you can download it doesn't that cease it from being rare?

B.) I am not talking about a huge discount either but $60 for physical and $55 for digital would be great

Why should someone that buys a game digital get it cheaper? You are receiving the same product

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

ZuneTattooGuy

Because you are talking away the box art and option to sell the game later if it sucks or you are bored with it

Gamertag: GoingTheDist

DefHalan

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

Because you are talking away the box art and option to sell the game later if it sucks or you are bored with it

But that doesn't give the product anymore value to the company. Nintendo is selling the software, that is what people are paying for. The box does not have value alone for the most part, outside of collectors very few people would spend money on the box. If you are someone that gives the box value then aren't you glad buying physical doesn't cost more than digital?

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

ZuneTattooGuy

The box and shipping the physical products costs them more than releasing it digitally

Gamertag: GoingTheDist

DefHalan

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

The box and shipping the physical products costs them more than releasing it digitally

Ok, while that does factor into how much money they spend/make it doesn't effect the value of the product.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

unrandomsam

DefHalan wrote:

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

The box and shipping the physical products costs them more than releasing it digitally

Ok, while that does factor into how much money they spend/make it doesn't effect the value of the product.

It should do. The digital price should be :

physical price - retailer cut - distributor cut - shipping and packaging

Nintendo gets the same amount per sale. Less used games about taking money that otherwise would go straight to Nintendo.

“30fps Is Not a Good Artistic Decision, It's a Failure”
Freedom of the press is for those who happen to own one.

DefHalan

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

The box and shipping the physical products costs them more than releasing it digitally

Ok, while that does factor into how much money they spend/make it doesn't effect the value of the product.

It should do. The digital price should be :

physical price - retailer cut - distributor cut - shipping and packaging

Nintendo gets the same amount per sale. Less used games about taking money that otherwise would go straight to Nintendo.

Should we add pricing of server maintenance over X amount of years to digital prices? If we say $1 for every year the game is on the servers and we use Wii as a judgement of server time, lets do the math. Wiiware launched March 25th 2008 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiiWare) and we are in 2015 with the shop still functional. That would be 7+ dollars added to the price.

and this is not counting any extra testing a download version requires, such as making sure it works with certain hard drives and loading works correctly (things I have had to test for certain consoles for retail download games)

EDIT: Also Value and Price are two different things. The price of server maintenance and game boxes would increase the cost which normally effects price, but the value of the product is high enough to over that price. The value of the game is then not effected by the box or server maintenance.

Edited on by DefHalan

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

unrandomsam

DefHalan wrote:

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

Because you are talking away the box art and option to sell the game later if it sucks or you are bored with it

But that doesn't give the product anymore value to the company. Nintendo is selling the software, that is what people are paying for. The box does not have value alone for the most part, outside of collectors very few people would spend money on the box. If you are someone that gives the box value then aren't you glad buying physical doesn't cost more than digital?

Yes it does. It means it cannot be resold which is a big advantage to Nintendo (Especially when so many of the retail locations basically only sell used Nintendo titles and maybe the very latest one new).

“30fps Is Not a Good Artistic Decision, It's a Failure”
Freedom of the press is for those who happen to own one.

DefHalan

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

Because you are talking away the box art and option to sell the game later if it sucks or you are bored with it

But that doesn't give the product anymore value to the company. Nintendo is selling the software, that is what people are paying for. The box does not have value alone for the most part, outside of collectors very few people would spend money on the box. If you are someone that gives the box value then aren't you glad buying physical doesn't cost more than digital?

Yes it does. It means it cannot be resold which is a big advantage to Nintendo (Especially when so many of the retail locations basically only sell used Nintendo titles and maybe the very latest one new).

Does that add value to the product?

EDIT: The product is the software. Not the packaging.

Edited on by DefHalan

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

unrandomsam

DefHalan wrote:

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

Because you are talking away the box art and option to sell the game later if it sucks or you are bored with it

But that doesn't give the product anymore value to the company. Nintendo is selling the software, that is what people are paying for. The box does not have value alone for the most part, outside of collectors very few people would spend money on the box. If you are someone that gives the box value then aren't you glad buying physical doesn't cost more than digital?

Yes it does. It means it cannot be resold which is a big advantage to Nintendo (Especially when so many of the retail locations basically only sell used Nintendo titles and maybe the very latest one new).

Does that add value to the product?

EDIT: The product is the software. Not the packaging.

The one that can be resold has a higher value for that reason. Hence the digital one should be cheaper simple as that.

“30fps Is Not a Good Artistic Decision, It's a Failure”
Freedom of the press is for those who happen to own one.

DefHalan

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

Because you are talking away the box art and option to sell the game later if it sucks or you are bored with it

But that doesn't give the product anymore value to the company. Nintendo is selling the software, that is what people are paying for. The box does not have value alone for the most part, outside of collectors very few people would spend money on the box. If you are someone that gives the box value then aren't you glad buying physical doesn't cost more than digital?

Yes it does. It means it cannot be resold which is a big advantage to Nintendo (Especially when so many of the retail locations basically only sell used Nintendo titles and maybe the very latest one new).

Does that add value to the product?

EDIT: The product is the software. Not the packaging.

The one that can be resold has a higher value for that reason. Hence the digital one should be cheaper simple as that.

I don't see how that improves its value to Nintendo. Nintendo makes no money when people resell their games.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

Octane

I agree, and games with fewer produced copies or games that are out of print (like Pikmin 3) should be more expensive than your average game, because it's more rare, so the resale value will also be higher.

Octane

unrandomsam

DefHalan wrote:

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

Because you are talking away the box art and option to sell the game later if it sucks or you are bored with it

But that doesn't give the product anymore value to the company. Nintendo is selling the software, that is what people are paying for. The box does not have value alone for the most part, outside of collectors very few people would spend money on the box. If you are someone that gives the box value then aren't you glad buying physical doesn't cost more than digital?

Yes it does. It means it cannot be resold which is a big advantage to Nintendo (Especially when so many of the retail locations basically only sell used Nintendo titles and maybe the very latest one new).

Does that add value to the product?

EDIT: The product is the software. Not the packaging.

The one that can be resold has a higher value for that reason. Hence the digital one should be cheaper simple as that.

I don't see how that improves its value to Nintendo. Nintendo makes no money when people resell their games.

Exactly and if they sell a digital copy that cannot happen. (Which should be what they want and should do more to encourage).

“30fps Is Not a Good Artistic Decision, It's a Failure”
Freedom of the press is for those who happen to own one.

DefHalan

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

unrandomsam wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

Because you are talking away the box art and option to sell the game later if it sucks or you are bored with it

But that doesn't give the product anymore value to the company. Nintendo is selling the software, that is what people are paying for. The box does not have value alone for the most part, outside of collectors very few people would spend money on the box. If you are someone that gives the box value then aren't you glad buying physical doesn't cost more than digital?

Yes it does. It means it cannot be resold which is a big advantage to Nintendo (Especially when so many of the retail locations basically only sell used Nintendo titles and maybe the very latest one new).

Does that add value to the product?

EDIT: The product is the software. Not the packaging.

The one that can be resold has a higher value for that reason. Hence the digital one should be cheaper simple as that.

I don't see how that improves its value to Nintendo. Nintendo makes no money when people resell their games.

Exactly and if they sell a digital copy that cannot happen. (Which should be what they want and should do more to encourage).

Which they are. Buying a game digitally has its own benefits that encourage people to buy it in that format. The product is worth $59.99, I don't see the reason to charge more or less for the product depending on if you get it physical or digital. The product is worth $59.99 so they sell it for $59.99.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

ZuneTattooGuy

DefHalan wrote:

Which they are. Buying a game digitally has its own benefits that encourage people to buy it in that format. The product is worth $59.99, I don't see the reason to charge more or less for the product depending on if you get it physical or digital. The product is worth $59.99 so they sell it for $59.99.

I fear even with a well thought out puppet show you wouldn't get why charging the same price for a digital product as for a physical product is stupid.

Gamertag: GoingTheDist

DefHalan

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

Which they are. Buying a game digitally has its own benefits that encourage people to buy it in that format. The product is worth $59.99, I don't see the reason to charge more or less for the product depending on if you get it physical or digital. The product is worth $59.99 so they sell it for $59.99.

I fear even with a well thought out puppet show you wouldn't get why charging the same price for a digital product as for a physical product is stupid.

I understand your logical and would love cheaper prices but it doesn't make sense for any company to do.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

ZuneTattooGuy

DefHalan wrote:

I understand your logical and would love cheaper prices but it doesn't make sense for any company to do.

You don't understand why a company would want to sacrifice a few dollars to provide a great benefit to their loyal customers?
Also that was just one of my ideas, my main idea is they should give digital pre-orders all the pre-order dlc offers from their many retail partners.

Gamertag: GoingTheDist

DefHalan

Quinnsdaddy11 wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

I understand your logical and would love cheaper prices but it doesn't make sense for any company to do.

You don't understand why a company would want to sacrifice a few dollars to provide a great benefit to their loyal customers?
Also that was just one of my ideas, my main idea is they should give digital pre-orders all the pre-order dlc offers from their many retail partners.

I understand why they would want to provide a benefit to their loyal customers, but that isn't what we are talking about. We are talking about giving a discount to digital purchasers just because they buy their games digitally.

The problem with the pre-order things is that those retail partners pay for those pre-order benefits. They do this to try to get consumers into their stores. Nintendo cannot give away this exclusive DLC because the retail partner paid for it, depending on the deal that was made. If a deal was made then the retail partner would be paying a lot less for that DLC since it isn't exclusive and is then less of a draw for that retail partner. I think Nintendo will have the Splatoon Costume Smash DLC available for purchase later, it will just be free for those that pre-order and purchase from GameStop.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

3DS Friend Code: 2621-2786-9784 | Nintendo Network ID: DefHalan

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