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SCAR

Jazzer94 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

@Unca_LZ
Don't worry about it. You probably at least know that Wii U is PowerPC, while Xbox One and PS4 are ×86. It's a legitimate reason why alot of these games aren't on Wii U.

3rd party video game developers don't know how to use PPC on anything except Xbox 360, basically. Xbox 360 is still technically a reference, even though Wii U is around 5-6 years of newer technology.

That's just a blatant lie on your part both THENGC and Wii used PPC. architecture and developers were able to make games run fine the problem we are beginning to see with games like Batman Arkham Knight and FF15 is that to much would be sacrificed to get the game to run on Wii U for terrible sales and most likely no profit due to the cost of porting.

Don't even get started, bro. You were one of the folks who originally thought Wii U couldn't run FFXV, because of DX11. Once I proved that that was BS, you started grasping onto other things. Budgets are part of it, but are generally effed to begin with, so that's much more on part of poor handling by said 3rd parties to begin with.

Tomb Raider and FF sold poorly on Xbox and PS last generation, but they continue to support them. Hmmm...

PPC has basically been abandoned by everyone besides Nintendo, so people are just naturally not going to have as much knowledge about it as ×86. I'm not lying. The last PPC video game consoles were 7th gen machines. ×86 continued on in PCs. So ya, I'm not BSing. People just know more about ×86 because it's always been common in PCs.

EDIT: Besides, you really want to blame sales? Wii U had 4 million sold while PS4 and Xbox One had 0. Support still didn't come, because they don't know jack about PPC past 7th gen.

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Honestly a mostly Nintendo and indie console is fine with me as well, considering the other 3rd parties seem to be heading for a self-destructive path

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That would not surprise me the slightest. The WiiU is barely selling.

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I wouldn't say that but I see the Wii U mrroring the Vita, sales of hardware being okay but for games dong pretty well.

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SCAR392 wrote:

Jazzer94 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

@Unca_LZ
Don't worry about it. You probably at least know that Wii U is PowerPC, while Xbox One and PS4 are ×86. It's a legitimate reason why alot of these games aren't on Wii U.

3rd party video game developers don't know how to use PPC on anything except Xbox 360, basically. Xbox 360 is still technically a reference, even though Wii U is around 5-6 years of newer technology.

That's just a blatant lie on your part both THENGC and Wii used PPC. architecture and developers were able to make games run fine the problem we are beginning to see with games like Batman Arkham Knight and FF15 is that to much would be sacrificed to get the game to run on Wii U for terrible sales and most likely no profit due to the cost of porting.

Don't even get started, bro. You were one of the folks who originally thought Wii U couldn't run FFXV, because of DX11. Once I proved that that was BS, you started grasping onto other things. Budgets are part of it, but are generally effed to begin with, so that's much more on part of poor handling by said 3rd parties to begin with.

Tomb Raider and FF sold poorly on Xbox and PS last generation, but they continue to support them. Hmmm...

PPC has basically been abandoned by everyone besides Nintendo, so people are just naturally not going to have as much knowledge about it as ×86. I'm not lying. The last PPC video game consoles were 7th gen machines. ×86 continued on in PCs. So ya, I'm not BSing. People just know more about ×86 because it's always been common in PCs.

EDIT: Besides, you really want to blame sales? Wii U had 4 million sold while PS4 and Xbox One had 0. Support still didn't come, because they don't know jack about PPC past 7th gen.

Actually I never made that accusation about DX11 being the reason Wii U will not be getting FF15 because I actually know and understand what DX11 is (still not sure if you really do) and a system being able to support it does not = all games that use it working on the system and you proved nothing to me. Also looking at the attach rate for Wii U would tell you why 3rd parties no longer want to bring their games to the system.

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Read an article about him not too long ago- I think a big part of his grudge against Nintendo is that his mom didn't like the gamepad (even if his animosity predates the Wii U)..... He almost made it sound like it hurt his mom's feelings, thus his feelings.

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I honestly don't think that has anything to do with it...

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Fun Fact: There's also a video on Gametrailers of Pachter talking about how he thinks Playstation Now is a doomed concept and will ultimately fail.
What a guy, huh?

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Unca_Lz wrote:

I honestly don't think that has anything to do with it...

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Fun Fact: There's also a video on Gametrailers of Pachter talking about how he thinks Playstation Now is a doomed concept and will ultimately fail.
What a guy, huh?

When it was initially announced, it was pretty underwhelming at the time

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Unca_Lz wrote:

Blast wrote:

Fun Fact: There's also a video on Gametrailers of Pachter talking about how he thinks Playstation Now is a doomed concept and will ultimately fail.
What a guy, huh?

When it was initially announced, it was pretty underwhelming at the time

Wait, you mean things have changed?

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I remember Patcher dogged on the Gamepad when it was first unviel during E3 2011.

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CanisWolfred wrote:

Unca_Lz wrote:

Blast wrote:

Fun Fact: There's also a video on Gametrailers of Pachter talking about how he thinks Playstation Now is a doomed concept and will ultimately fail.
What a guy, huh?

When it was initially announced, it was pretty underwhelming at the time

Wait, you mean things have changed?

Not really, just putting the time into perspective.

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shingi_70 wrote:

I remember Patcher dogged on the Gamepad when it was first unviel during E3 2011.

I can't blame him for that. From my experience, it's one of those cases where you really need to get your hands on the thing to see that it's really not that bad.

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@Jazzer94
Well, if you understand how DX11 works, then we wouldn't even be discussing this at all. My point about sales, is that 3rd parties put out different goods. The 8th gen version of games on Xbox One are gonna sell better than the 7th gen version on Wii U. That's a given, which is why 3rd party games not selling well isn't exactly surprising, in turn, effects Wii U sales as well.

Like I said, FFXIII and Tomb Raider didn't sell that well on 160 million console install bases. Guess why.

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I swear every time pachter brings up nintendo he has to talk about how bad iwata is

i feel like pachter is harsh on nintendo and even sony at times

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His argument has some merit. Nintendo has had a rough two years under Iwata. Yes, he was successful with the Wii and DS, but he has been unable to turn around Nintendo's fortunes with the Wii U.

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