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PokemonXYay

hey ive recently discovered the pokerus method personally and i was wondering if there are other things like it what i mean by that is if a pokemon is shiny it has a red star if a pokemon has had the pokerus virus it gains a smilly face what other things like that are out there. that give you more icons

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skywake

Well those screenshots are from the same games and are at super low resolutions. The differences between the two generations are mostly in the smoothness of the framerate, actually running at HD resolutions, improved textures and shadows. Going from 360/PS3 to Wii U you'll get the texture boost and the higher resolution usually. Going to PS4/XBOne you'll get the rest ontop of that.

but really the big leaps will be when they start building games for these systems. Right now most if not all the games we're seeing tasters of were built for the previous generation. Like playing a 360/PS3 game on a mid-range PC, that's about where we are.

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bail

cod ghosts is the worst example ever... man this game looks like 2006 on the wii u

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http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/ddgEYUMuSVI/maxresdefault.jpg

Not the best image because again the resolution is scaled down and not the best game because it was build for "current gen". Also not the best scene either because most of the difference in that game is in the shadow detail. But there's a clear improvement as you can see even this early in the piece.

look it up on the youtubes, it's even more noticeable in motion.

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MikeLove

bail wrote:

cod ghosts is the worst example ever... man this game looks like 2006 on the wii u

I figured that must be the case since I haven't seen a review on it yet. I was considering maybe picking it up, but until I see some more information on it I will wait.

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MAB

Yeah I have noticed how the new gen is going back to the old

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Neoproteus

Old gen wins... Nex gen has no new games and no backwards compatibility, plus nothing really new other than better hardware, which is really kind of irrelevant at this point.

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MikeLove

Neoproteus wrote:

Old gen wins... Nex gen has no new games and no backwards compatibility, plus nothing really new other than better hardware, which is really kind of irrelevant at this point.

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Better hardware = irrelevant?? Don't tell that to Samsung, Apple, Sony, LG, Panasonic, etc..

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steamhare

FutureAlphaMale wrote:

Better hardware = irrelevant?? Don't tell that to Samsung, Apple, Sony, LG, Panasonic, etc..

Companies in different industries being arbitrarily held to the same standard to make a point doesn't actually make a point.

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rg88

The point is: it's the first time we need to look at secondary aspects to distinguish the games.

I believe that when we see Naughty Dog working on the Ps4 or any other good developer, at the end of the life cycle of the new consoles, we'll see a great difference. But this used to happen at the start of the generation, you can distinguish any X360 launch game from last gen. This is not the case anymore.

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StyledFawn476

robertogallo84 wrote:

at the end of the life cycle of the new consoles, we'll see a great difference.

What about what Mark Cerny said about the PS4 having "maximum DAY ONE performance"? That implies developers are able to max out the PS4s hardware without any efforts thanks to the architecture.

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MikeLove

steamhare wrote:

FutureAlphaMale wrote:

Better hardware = irrelevant?? Don't tell that to Samsung, Apple, Sony, LG, Panasonic, etc..

Companies in different industries being arbitrarily held to the same standard to make a point doesn't actually make a point.

Actually it does. The point being that the creation of "better hardware" is what these companies exist on. None of them got to where they are today by sticking to 1970's technology. The development of new hardware is part of being current and profitable. It's the reason we aren't still playing Pong today.

That the other guy would bring up the fact that the the next-gen consoles "only" have "better hardware" going for them as if its an insult or a negative, is a bit insane.

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MikeLove

StyledFawn476 wrote:

robertogallo84 wrote:

at the end of the life cycle of the new consoles, we'll see a great difference.

What about what Mark Cerny said about the PS4 having "maximum DAY ONE performance"? That implies developers are able to max out the PS4s hardware without any efforts thanks to the architecture.

It will still take developers who are unfamiliar with the technology a bit of experience and trial and error to figure out how to best maximize it.
I don't think that statement reads that developers can max out their games without any "effort", just that its possible and that no tricks/hurdles will be met when they do get accustomed to it.

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shingi_70

OP your thread would have sense if you didn't have an Obvious agenda by showing in the case of the new systems literally the same games verus showing the same franchises on different hardware for Nintendo games. This is like comparing all of the games that were at the 360 launch as well as came out on the PS2 and other sixth gen consoles. Not really a fair comparsion when the hardware isn't lead and is being used to uport.

Plus its a bit harder to gauge since Microsoft and Sony don't trudge out the same charcaters or franchises like clockwork. Ie Evo isn't doing a motorstrom game at launch, or japan studios last game is way ifferent from knack.

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rg88

Well sonyman, do it, compare the games we've saw on the Ps2 and their X360 counterparts at launch. I think it's safe to say that we had a much larger gap there than we have now.

Again: I'm not trying to say that Ps4 doesn't have POTENTIAL to make games that will be clearly better than Ps3. I'm saying this isn't the case at launch, and it was the case in every other gen in history.

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dumedum

^^ all looks the same to me. Identical. Some even look better on the old gen IMO.

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robertogallo84 wrote:

Again: I'm not trying to say that Ps4 doesn't have POTENTIAL to make games that will be clearly better than Ps3. I'm saying this isn't the case at launch, and it was the case in every other gen in history.

Look at the texturing and level of detail in the next gen games as opposed to their current gen counterparts. There is a huge difference.

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