Topic: 5 Controllers needed for "4 Player mode"?! - Wii U dissapoints me a bit

Hello community

Yesterday I got my Wii U and I overall think, that the console is (after a year) still "in the beta phase".
I wrote the points at the bottom, if somebody is interested in some awful facts.

My question is:
I have NSMBU and wanted to test the 4-Player mode. The Touch-Controller should be Player 1 and the other 3 Pro Controllers should be Player 2-4. But this didn't work in a normal way... You are not able to set the touch-controller as player 1 and the other controllers from Player 2-4. Is there a Way to fix this? I don't need this "Booster Mode", I just want to player 4 characters with my 4 controllers.

And how is this in other games, is it the same? If so, I would have to buy an extra pro controller, which would REALLY disappoint me and which also would be really embarrassing for Nintendo.

I really like Nintendo and they must NEVER get a pure software company. But the things I met while using it made me a bit sad.

Important: I had to edit this starting post, because my english was a bit bad. Corrected things are now written in Caps Lock (dunno how to write bold here), so there is no rage, if you read something in uppercase letters.

Other points, which haven't really to do with the topic:
1. The Console is not able to CHARGE the controllers while it is shut down. You have to run it just for charging them.
2. There is no "Power-"button" for the controller it self. Even if the console is shut down, the controllers will always search for a connection with the console. This drains the battery for no reason and if you have 8 peers, it also does a lot of radiation. If it wouldn't be like this, how could the touch-controller start immediately, after I started the console without touching the controller? I DON'T SEARCH FOR AN OPTION TO TURN THE DISPLAY BLACK, I KNOW THIS SOLUTION ALREADY (this part was also edited, so no rage at this time guys. )
3. You're not able to just use the TV-Display. The Touch-Display is always on while you're gaming.
4. You cannot unconnect the touch-controller from the console, if you don't need it. It will stay on and if you don't put it in the charger, it will go empty for aboslutely no reason.
5. The games in the online store (eShop) are more expensive than the retail ones... wtf.

Please give me advice, if I am wrong about one of these points. I appreciate every kind of tipp.

Greets And sorry for my eventually bad english guys
Trudler

Greetings, Trudler
I don't have NSMBU, so I cannot answer most of your questions. And what other games do you mean?

Answers to your not related to the topic questions:
1- Sync the controllers again by pressing the sync buttons from both console and controller. Weird, it's working with me though.
2- Controllers turn off automatically when the system is being turned off. Maybe this can be fixed by syncing the controllers, then turning off the system with the power button on the controllers.
3- To turn off the Wii U gamepad display, press HOME button on the gamepad, then controller settings, then turn off the display, then select yes.
4- Wii U Gamepad is necessary for the Wii U, so you can't unconnected it from the system. It's programmed like that, sorry.
5- Tell that to Nintendo.

How the GamePad works depends on the game you're using. Sometimes it behaves as a 5th player either doing the same thing as the other players or something entirely different. In VC games it behaves as whatever controller you tell it to be. It really depends on how they've programmed the game.

As for the other stuffs, I have no idea what you're talking about for most of it. Just make sure your controllers are synced properly.

ya nsmbu annoyed me with that, hopefully they update it someday. good news is that super mario 3d world lets you use any combination you want.

game prices are the same as the msrp. they also add tax in the store price, thats probably why it looks like more. unless you are comparing it to a sale or promo price

There's no taxes on video games where I live. Wahoo!

I editet point 1 and 2 (in the starter post), because you missunderstood me (my fault, I used the wrong words, sorry ).

Anyway, thanks for all of your answers!

Good to hear, that you can handle the problem in Mario 3d World.

Greets
Trudler

Controllers all turn off if not used after a couple minutes, And the supposed radiation from them is absolutely negligible.

Yeah, NSMBU bothered me with that too. Generally other games are not like that. But it really depends.

It sucks the console doesn't charge the controllers when off via the USB cable, but you can plug those into any USB at all. Computer, cell phone charger, etc.

If you shut off the system, the Gamepad should shut off as well. If it's not, sync it to the system and try again. Also, there is a power button on all Wii U controllers, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Yeah this is clear for me, but thanks.

Ok, I think my question may be a bit too technical, I'll try to explain it step by step:
1. Console is plugged of from EVERYTHING (Even the power supply) and all controllers are "off".
2. Plug the console to a power point (the console moves from totally shutdown to the standby mode).
3. Press "Power on" button ON THE CONSOLE!
4. The touch-gamepad will instantly wake up and start with the console.

How should the gamepad be able to know, when the console has started? There has to be a permanent connection to etablish this state. The gamepad could NEVER start without a user unput, if there wouldn't be a signal by the console, which would activate the controller. The signal alone is not enough. There has to be a receiver in the controller, which permanently listens for a connection 24/7, even if no console is near/powered on.

I hate electrical devices like this, because you could also do a simple button-press to wake the controller up and you would safe the idle energy and you would also avoid the 24/7 radiation (I try to avoid much as possible radiation in my bedroom. I know it does really less, but just the fact that it's there could make me crazy. If I have a bad sleep, I will remember the pointless controller radiation).
I know, that nobody will be with me, but in my opinion this is one of the biggest design issues the Wii-U has.

Greets
Trudler

Personally, I can't stand that I can't use the gamepad unless I'm playing alone or using the stylus alone in that weird mode.

Super Mario 3D World isn't like this right? You can play with the gamepad even in multiplayer?

I think you're overreacting about the GamePad and I really don't think the gamepad is "sending out radiation" or "draining lots of power" by sitting there listening. Listening by its very nature is a passive act. Your TV listens for signals from a TV remote, this isn't that different. Also again, it's not harmful. You receives more radiation from the power lines running past the front of your house, the radio and TV broadcast that blast through your house or even the SuperNova that's exploding 50 light years away.

As for charging, those controllers don't really need much charging anyway. I think I've only had to charge mine once and to do that I just plugged in the USB charging cable into the front for a couple of play sessions while playing. Then it was charged. Again, not a big deal.

It's about as bad as a cell phone or a television receiver, so I don't see your point here...

Yeah, the only radiation you should be worried about is the UV Radiation that rains down from the sun. Skin Cancer is actually a big killer especially in sunny places in the southern hemisphere where the hole in the Ozone Layer still exists (but is shrinking). Go out in the sun and your skin literally cooks which is something I have never seen even a really high end WiFi access points do. But nobody thinks that's a big deal because the sun is natural.

If you should be worried about any tech harming you look at laptops and the idea of actually sitting them on your lap. Particularly on kids and teenagers laps. Those things get hot, you can seriously damage some of a person's core componentry by placing something that's 70-90C on their lap.

So yeah, Sun and Laptops are more harmful to your health than Bluetooth or WiFi is basically what I'm saying here.

edit: Just a little bit of physics to follow up with. Radio waves are long wave length even Mobile Phones use longer wave lengths to tramsit data. Longer wavelengths tend to pass right through you and don't interact. Shorter wavelengths are the ones you should be more worried about. Starting with UV going through to X-Rays and all the way upto Gamma which is the scary "Nuclear" stuffs. Higher wavelength stuffs is small enough to be absorbed by your cells and is also also much higher energy.

It goes kinda like this:
Radio -> too big to interact and acts like you're not even there
Visible -> Small enough to interact with you, not powerful enough to blast its way through
UV to Gamma -> Too small to ignore you but powerful enough to try and steamroll its way through
So there you go, science!

OP: I don't know if this is what you were talking about really, but you can turn off the gamepad display while playing a game with the pro controller or wiimote or something. Just open the home menu once you're in a game, select the controllers button, and then select "turn off display" under the gamepad icon. Technically it is still on, but it will completely turn off the screen and you can forget it's even there haha.

@rallydefault

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I have heard you can hang onions around your house to soak up bad radiation vibes man

I don't recall having that many problems with with G-Pad, or NSMBU.
SO, You Say you "Press power on" on the console? And You are getting confused as to why it's starting up? I'm pretty sure there is a reciever/transmitter built in the controller, and its probably similar to the WiiMote's.
The G-pad can be turned on, without turning on the console. have you ever changed channels on your TV with it? It's pretty handy.
I know five controllers are needed for 5 player mode, but only four are needed for four player.... at least, in my experience.

Hint: if you own a smart phone, you can use the wall charger to plug the USB cable that came with the Pro Controller to charge it. Actually you can plug the pro controller into and USB connector to charge it. The Wii U isn't the only option. Also for the radiation deal.... Your getting about as much radiation as a light bulb.. I'd be more worried about my food cooked in a microwave for radiation then the Wii U. The device probably puts out more electromagnetic energy then radiation. Don't worry about it.

@skywake

Just trying to help, man. I don't have a ton of time to comb through every post. My apologies. Good luck to you.