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Topic: No latency issues for Wii U Gamepad?

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PeterW77

Saw this video that highlights how well the Wii U handles the asymmetrical game play:

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DudeSean

Isn't there usually a latency issue with HDTVs? Like, isn't that what the lag option is for in the guitar hero games?

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kyuubikid213

I heard there wasn't latency because the GamePad actually renders/registers what it does several nanoseconds before the TV does.

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DudeSean

Yeah, I was thinking they could just do that in order to prevent any latency issues if any existed.

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skywake

The worry about the latency of this controller is over the top. The reason there is latency with HDTVs, and it was upto ~300ms on some older screens, is because there is a processor in the screen that has to scale the image. Your Wii outputs at 480p and a HDTV has to scale it upto 1080p and if you don't have it on the "game" setting it does extra stuff like smoothing and colour correction. Fine for movies, crap for games... and 300ms is big and noticeable because at 60fps it's a 20 frame gap.

The latency for a wireless connection is considerably less, 1-5ms tops (ping your router over WiFi if you don't believe that). The Wii U will be outputting the display at the correct resolution and doing all of the processing and such. The tablet does nothing but display it. Even if it's 5ms out it's not going to be noticeable at all at 60fps. Infact at 5ms it would only show itself if you were able to display your image it at 200fps and could perceive that sort of delay. Even if you blow it out to 20ms which is almost surely more than what you'd expect it'd still be barely perceptible at 60fps. For you to see it on youtube it'd have to be closer to 40ms before you saw anything.

tl;dr: Stop freaking out, delay is not going to be an issue. Even if it is you're not going to notice it on youtube.

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DudeSean

I don't think anyone is freaking out and did you even watch the youtube video? Because you don't seem to understand how it's noticeable in the video.

Other than that, thanks for the information!

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skywake

In that video the lag was in the screen not the tablet or the console. I didn't watch the video before I wrote what I said earlier but looking at it now it behaves exactly as I said it would (and would have watched if I knew it was in slow motion! That's very cool!). Input is taken from the "Game Pad" to the Wii U and the image is sent back to the "Game Pad" and TV simultaneously. The gap between the two was the time it took for the LG screen to upscale 720p to 1080p (more likely it also wasn't in "game" mode) and had nothing to do with the Wii U itself.

And there has been "freaking out" about the lag that would be introduced by having a wireless screen. Been there from the start. It's why that video exists, it's why there are comments on the video trying to claim it's fake, it's why this thread exists. It's all unwarranted and it always has been.

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skywake

I thought people might find this interesting: http://www.anandtech.com/show/2803

for the TLDR
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That plus 5ms MAX for the Wii U Game Pad
That plus anything from 0ms to 100s or ms for the TV processing depending on if it's on and how crap it is

When it gets to above ~100ms that's when you brain stops being able to compensate for it and it'll start to not feel quite right.

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DudeSean

skywake wrote:

And there has been "freaking out" about the lag that would be introduced by having a wireless screen. Been there from the start. It's why that video exists, it's why there are comments on the video trying to claim it's fake, it's why this thread exists. It's all unwarranted and it always has been.

Sorry, I meant no one in this thread.

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