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As I said before, you can buy dlc gun camo's.

That's not as big of a deal as the actual maps though, even though it is welcome. I'm thinking that Activision will release the maps on Wii U once they've made enough money from the other versions to not care. By that time, the affect of having new DLC across all current platforms simultaneously will die out.
All the game companies are transitioning from last gen to a next gen, some just don't get it right away. Wii U is next gen and I don't think they realize it, so they'll just stick with the same ol' same ol' until it hits them in the face that they should have been trying to transition to Wii U which is going to a new gen.

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SCAR392 wrote:

All the game companies are transitioning from last gen to a next gen, some just don't get it right away. Wii U is next gen and I don't think they realize it, so they'll just stick with the same ol' same ol' until it hits them in the face that they should have been trying to transition to Wii U which is going to a new gen.

Correct me if I'm wrong and I may very well be but it sounds like you think you have a better understanding of the Wii U hardware than the people actually making the games? Cause from the sounds of it why have they not hired you to train all their staff on Wii U?

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SCAR392 wrote:

All the game companies are transitioning from last gen to a next gen, some just don't get it right away. Wii U is next gen and I don't think they realize it, so they'll just stick with the same ol' same ol' until it hits them in the face that they should have been trying to transition to Wii U which is going to a new gen.

Correct me if I'm wrong and I may very well be but it sounds like you think you have a better understanding of the Wii U hardware than the people actually making the games? Cause from the sounds of it why have they not hired you to train all their staff on Wii U?

I'm gonna tell you the truth. I know for a fact Wii U can do alot more than other consoles on the market right now, but definately not as much as PS4 and Xbox 1080 will be able to do GRAPHICS wise.
The GamePad has a touchscreen that can bring gaming and everyday use closer to the user. It has a decent camera, 9 axis motion, and NFC which can literally be used to scan compatible credit cards or figures for whatever else.
If we only look at the console itself, it has 4 times as much RAM as last gen consoles which can be used to run multiple programs at once. The CPU and GPU chips are updated, 5 years more current than PS3's are, more efficient, and overall more powerful. The other next gen consoles will clock out at approximately 1.6gh, while Wii U will clock out at 1.3gh.
Even with the specs the next Xbox and PS will have, Wii U is still in the same league in some areas.
All next gen consoles can handle some form of high capacity disc, and connect to the internet in some way. Even cross play is starting to appear on Nintendo's console.
PCM 5.1 is as good as it gets with surround sound as of right now, and Wii U supports that, and will no doubt be able to be enhanced.
Imagine the Dreamcast, and it actually lived on to the next generation because it wasn't outdated at the time. That's basically what Wii U will be in comparison to the other next gen consoles.
Nintendo has never added a piece of add-on hardware on any of their consoles. We literally just saw Microsft and Sony cave in by releasing motion controllers. Nintendo has had that down for years before their competitors, and they have a plan to keep up. They've had way too much time to think about it.
The other companies spent money and resources on making sure they were able to compete with Nintendo, even if last gen would have been the last.
Nintendo basically had no choice but to release an HD console when they did, but they're moving forward with it past last gen consoles whether you believe it or not.

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SCAR392 wrote:

I'm gonna tell you the truth. I know for a fact Wii U can do alot more than other consoles on the market right now, but definately not as much as PS4 and Xbox 1080 will be able to do GRAPHICS wise.

Well, half of that statement is true.

Even with the specs the next Xbox and PS will have, Wii U is still in the same league in some areas.

Would you mind passing those Next XBox specs around to news sites, since you seem to have an inside knowledge of what's to come?

Nintendo has never added a piece of add-on hardware on any of their consoles. We literally just saw Microsft and Sony cave in by releasing motion controllers. Nintendo has had that down for years before their competitors, and they have a plan to keep up. They've had way too much time to think about it.

Except they're not add-on hardware. At least in the point you're trying to make. Because they're basically the same thing as a Power Pad (or if that is before your time, the Wii balance board and Wii Motion Plus.)

Nintendo basically had no choice but to release an HD console when they did, but they're moving forward with it past last gen consoles whether you believe it or not.

But if they were so far ahead of the curve and everyone wanted to play catch up, why did they have no choice?

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I don't need inside info to know stuff. It's called doing research which you tell me to do. I used to have a powerpad actually, and a power glove. I'm not naive, the internet is right here for concrete answers that I can reference.
How was the first statement half right?
It can do at least 70% better than PS3, and PS4 be 85% better, and Xbox 1080 will be 100%.
PS3 was the best console last gen, but it didn't matter because Xbox 360 delivered most of the same, and better exclusives that appealed to me.
Now all it has is bluray and media.
I'm making up the percentages, but it's an educated guess.

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@terribledeliI don't need inside info to know stuff. It's called doing research which you tell me to do.

No, that's not research. That's assumptions. If Microsoft released the specs on the console and you compared and contrasted them in a logical fashion, that would research.

I used to have a powerpad actually, and a power glove. I'm not naive, the internet is right here for concrete answers that I can reference.

Because everything on the internet is fact. Absolutely no one ever had a personal agenda to push.

How was the first statement half right?

You were right about the other consoles delivering better graphics. But not so much about your knowledge about the Wii U.

It can do at least 70% better than PS3, and PS4 be 85% better, and Xbox 1080 will be 100%. PS3 was the best console last gen, but it didn't matter because Xbox 360 delivered most of the same, and better exclusives that appealed to me.
Now all it has is bluray and media.I'm making up the percentages, but it's an educated guess.

You're making me blush here. Admitting that your numbers are an educated guess is well on your way. Statements like that are not an issue. Though, I do have question that if the 360 was such a better fit for you, why did you get rid of it again? I mean, unless you bought a PS3 when blu-ray players were outrageously priced, it would have been a better idea to stick with a 360 and get a functional blu-ray player.

Food for thought I suppose.

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It doesn't matter whether I'm right or wrong I guess, because when I'm right, I'm still wrong, and when I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's one sided.
I wouldn't doubt that any of the conversations we've had in any topic will be deleted by morning.

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SCAR392 wrote:

undead_terror wrote:

As I said before, you can buy dlc gun camo's.

That's not as big of a deal as the actual maps though, even though it is welcome. I'm thinking that Activision will release the maps on Wii U once they've made enough money from the other versions to not care. By that time, the affect of having new DLC across all current platforms simultaneously will die out.
All the game companies are transitioning from last gen to a next gen, some just don't get it right away. Wii U is next gen and I don't think they realize it, so they'll just stick with the same ol' same ol' until it hits them in the face that they should have been trying to transition to Wii U which is going to a new gen.

Activision is not going to throw away earned money because it can. I highly doubt it wants to go through the trouble of offering its DLC options to a small community that won't even purchase it to begin with.

Also, multiplatform released DLC isn't dying out anytime soon.

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When Metroid Ultimate hits the scene with a cool online multiplayer mode nobody will care for a few samey maps and a couple of guns that are the same as all the other guns... The reality is that they should be giving those packs away for free seeing how alot of suckers have bought the same game over & over again every year ;)

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MadAussieBloke wrote:

When Metroid Ultimate hits the scene with a cool online multiplayer mode nobody will care for a few samey maps and a couple of guns that are the same as all the other guns... The reality is that they should be giving those packs away for free seeing how alot of suckers have bought the same game over & over again every year ;)

I don't really know why we should care about those DLCs right now, it's already cool that we have those games to begin with. It's just sad how those third-parties play tough on the Wii U when we all know they're gonna cry for market share on the system once Nintendo brings out the games.
(And that's when you'll see those DLCs...) :D

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SCAR392 wrote:

It doesn't matter whether I'm right or wrong I guess, because when I'm right, I'm still wrong, and when I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It's one sided.
I wouldn't doubt that any of the conversations we've had in any topic will be deleted by morning.

You see the thing is that you were not correct though and he was just trying to point that out to you. You have no understand of what the Wii U hardware is capable of nor do you know what the PS4 or Durango will be capable of. Unless you're a developer working on a AAA title game that takes advantage of what the hardware can do then none of us fully know the in's and out's of what any of these machines can do but yet you claim to know by making an 'educated guess'.

All we can really do is wait and see. Time will tell but till then lets not pretend to know things that we don't.

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They shouldn't be suprise that the Wii U version didn't sell well. The game came out earlier on the other systems and people have clanswith certain systems. The Wii U version sold 170 000 copies, which is still good in my opinion. Why not give the same experience to everyone, which could, actually would lead to people expanding their clans, Foolish Foolish move activision. This would only make future Wii U call of duty pointless, as Nintendo fans don't know if they're giong to get the same experience.w

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MDee14 wrote:

They shouldn't be suprise that the Wii U version didn't sell well. The game came out earlier on the other systems and people have clanswith certain systems. The Wii U version sold 170 000 copies, which is still good in my opinion. Why not give the same experience to everyone, which could, actually would lead to people expanding their clans, Foolish Foolish move activision. This would only make future Wii U call of duty pointless, as Nintendo fans don't know if they're giong to get the same experience.

Nintendo fans won't know if there will be DLC support until Activision announces it in advance. Activision won't announce it until Wii U's install base is much larger.

Only time will tell.

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undead_terror wrote:

As I said before, you can buy dlc gun camo's.

That's not as big of a deal as the actual maps though, even though it is welcome. I'm thinking that Activision will release the maps on Wii U once they've made enough money from the other versions to not care. By that time, the affect of having new DLC across all current platforms simultaneously will die out.
All the game companies are transitioning from last gen to a next gen, some just don't get it right away. Wii U is next gen and I don't think they realize it, so they'll just stick with the same ol' same ol' until it hits them in the face that they should have been trying to transition to Wii U which is going to a new gen.

Activision is not going to throw away earned money because it can. I highly doubt it wants to go through the trouble of offering its DLC options to a small community that won't even purchase it to begin with.

Also, multiplatform released DLC isn't dying out anytime soon.

It technically has already died out since it's not on Wii U.

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I don't pretend bro. I can go compare PS4 and Wii U's specs online, read up, and make an accurate comparison. The internet is right here.

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It technically has already died out since it's not on Wii U.

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I don't pretend bro. I can go compare PS4 and Wii U's specs online, read up, and make an accurate comparison. The internet is right here.

Nothing has died out due to not releasing on Wii U. Especially anything Call of Duty related.

Post a few links of the announced PS4 specs and accurately compare each.

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Chrono_Cross wrote:

It technically has already died out since it's not on Wii U.

@RancidVomit86
I don't pretend bro. I can go compare PS4 and Wii U's specs online, read up, and make an accurate comparison. The internet is right here.

Nothing has died out due to not releasing on Wii U. Especially anything Call of Duty related.

Post a few links of the announced PS4 specs and accurately compare each.

This was my thoughts as I read your reply. Just had to do this edit to add this cause my phone was going stupid.

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Wii U:
Tri core CPU
HD GPU 550mhz
2GB RAM
Efficient architecture

PS4:
8 core CPU
18 GPU cores 1.8 teraflops
Super charged architecture
8GB GDDR3/5 hybrid RAM

Xbox 1080:
8 core CPU
D3D11.1 800mhz
8GB DDR3 RAM

Ok, so you guys are probably thinking, 'Dude, tri versus 8'. Understand that it has to do alot with the other parts of the build.
Wii U's build is focused around the controller, while adding bits and pieces of the best aspects regarding the CPU and custom chips of their past consoles dating back to GCN. So we basically have a GCN/Wii/new-custom-chip Overall, it will be about three times as powerful as the Wii, 2 times stronger than Xbox 360 and about 1.7 times stronger than the PS3.
The 2GB RAM will be used to run multiple applications at once, which can handle upwards to 4 programs at once without a cold boot up. The efficient architecture will allow it to put some applications from the RAM in sleep mode so more processing power can be accumulated and thrown at a single or more target operation.

Next, PS4. It uses the teraflop decoding, which technically limits it already in a way, because this is a different unit of calculating what can appear from the CPU on screen. All the CPUs already use a form of teraflop, but it is not measured bluntly in teraflop units. That basically means that the CPU will be harder to deal with when trying to make the the visuals appear clearly. Wii U will have what I would guess is 1.35 teraflops, but it is a easier to handle increment of unit than 1.8 in most cases. The super charged architecture is to make up for the off beat unit of teraflop. The 8GB DRR3/5 hybrid RAM will be used for multiple programs to run at once in the background, WITHOUT putting them in sleep mode like Wii U, which derives from the social videos, chat in game, etc. The 3 part of the RAM is the efficient part of or DDR, and will also be in Xbox, but version 3 will take up about 7.9GB. 5 is SUPER expensive, so it probably only uses 10-15mb, also being helped by the super charged build. They just stated it had DDR5 only, because that would be the ideal version, and 10-15mb is more than 0 like the other consoles. The PS4 doesn't derive any technology from any previous PS consoles and uses different tech to get the same affect as its previous consoles. The PS4 will probably be 2.1 times more powerful than PS3.

Xbox:
It will rely on a similar CPU as PS4, but will 'flow' better from not having so many increments of floating particles inbetween. The Xbox will also be heavily reliant on GPU for automatic calculations mirrored from the CPU, which is strictly a higher mhz rate than Wii U, because the CPU is stronger. It will have DDR3 RAM, which will be used more efficiently than having even 10-15mb of DRR5 which takes more processing in PS4, and will run overall 'cleaner' than PS4 not having to deal with teraflops and random floating particles that don't matter or be harnessed.
Xbox will have a bluray player this time, and most likely be 2.4 times strong than PS3

Overall, in a scale of 1-10:
Wii U = 7, has gamepad, wii remotes, Spotpass will most likely function for 3DS use and standby use later on, most likely cheaper
PS4 = 8.75, has Move, improved Move camera to rival Kinect, Gaikai that needs good internet
Xbox = 10, has Kinect, will probably use a Gaikai type system as well, unknown for the most part.
We could really make the numbers more spread out, but it would be the same affect. These rating I gave the consoles are based on sheer power of the consoles, with note of appeal variance that could make any of these a 10.

This is like the best to my understanding that I could come up with. My source is Google in which I look up the components seperatly and meshing them together to best define how they all work together.
I think Wii U will be the Dreamcast that lives to be as successful as PS2, PS4 won't relate to any past situation, and Xbox will be what PS1 vs. Sega Saturn which no longer exists.

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A link for those specs would be swell.

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Chrono_Cross wrote:

A link for those specs would be swell.

I don't know how to link, but here' the exact search on Google:
PlayStation 4 Announcement: How Do The PS4 Specs Stack Up To The Wii U And Xbox Durango?

These are my conclusions based on the information that anyone has that would be even relatively close, and it sounds about right.
I'm pretty sure PS4 and Xbox 1080 are about 95% to 90% complete respectively. The other 5%-10% would be making sure software runs, and coding to command the actual hardware.

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Copy and paste the URL. I'm not posting a link for you.

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