When you first start out, whatever kind of artist you are, you push boundaries. Why? Because you have to. You are an individual. You have something unique to say. And you need to push boundaries in order to say it, because nobody's ever said it before quite the way you will.
As you continue to grow as an artist, you need to push fewer and fewer boundaries. Not because you have less to say, but because you've already carved out a space in which you can say it, and a space in which folks are comfortable when you say it.
You can't keep pushing boundaries forever, because if you do you're pushing them for the sake of pushing them. And that helps nobody. It does no good to push boundaries because, hey, might as well. That's when you've officially started trying too hard. You push boundaries when you need to push them. When you don't, you do brilliant things WITHIN boundaries. And there's no serious artist alive that would tell you any differently.
Quite how "quality" and "boundary pushing" started going hand in hand in the mind of gamers is beyond me. I'd rather have a great game that pushes no boundaries than a mediocre game that pushed boundaries that did it no good. One of them I might admire in some sort of passing way for what it attempted to do...but I know which one I'd actually spend my time playing.
Where's the like button? I need to mash it mercilessly.
DKC is safe? You mean the series we never got for about 10 years prior to Returns and that was once one of Nintendo's biggest, most respected franchises (in the SNES era)? Honestly, I'd say that's more interesting than anything they could do with Metroid or F-Zero, and they even went beyond and got the original series composer back (David Wise).
Yeah its pretty safe. I mean people act like the DCKR was some big new game. To be honest it wasn't seeing as their wasn't really a real lll between donkey kong games mainline or otherwise.
For me its a combination of wanting Nintendo get outside of Platformer (2D that is) and seeing Retro's technical talents used on TF is a bit underwhelming.
Keep in mind we had no real Donkey Kong Country games for years prior. King of Swing and Jungle Climber weren't popular and weren't platformers, Konga was crap and Jungle Beat was a poor attempt to get rid of things people actually liked about the series.
To see it return was amazing because it meant that Nintendo hadn't abandoned anything they worked with Rare on before.
Additionally, if you look about Retro as basically being Rare number 2, then a new Country game makes perfect sense. I mean, what did Rare make back in the SNES days? Three Donkey Kong Country and three Donkey Kong Land games. Why should Metroid get a trilogy but not a far more popular series that's equally as good?
I don't understand why everyone wants Nintendo to directly compete with Microsoft and Sony and create a system similar to theirs. How exactly will the niche filled by two companies help Nintendo? If anyone wants to play Nintendo games, they'll get the Wii U anyway once the games come out.
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Because people want their cake and eat it too. People think they want all-in one machines, like smartphones. I think people just want to complain about Nintendo sometimes. Nintendo makes great games, what more do you want? If you want more services then get another console. I personally see no reason for a Xbox One or PS4, I am happy with my Wii U.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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I don't understand why everyone wants Nintendo to directly compete with Microsoft and Sony and create a system similar to theirs. How exactly will the niche filled by two companies help Nintendo? If anyone wants to play Nintendo games, they'll get the Wii U anyway once the games come out.
My thoughts exactly. In truth I have always been a two console person. Honestly its just silly not too. I mean not every game comes out for every system its has been that way since the days of the Atari really. I buy Nintendo products to play my Nintendo games like Mario, Zelda Metroid etc and I buy the other systems for their exclusives. If a game like GTA V or AC IV come out on multi platform than I see which one offers the best package and pick that one. Not hard really.
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Because I want a system that's modern but will also have Nintendo games.
The Wii U is at your local store, right now. Saying that you "want a system that's modern but will also have Nintendo games", implies to me that you do not own a Wii U.
Seriously, 1080p full HD, 3D capable, linear PCM surround sound, a camera in the remote, and cloud type features(Spotpass) seem pretty modern, IMO.
Plus, Wii U has NFC and 9-axis which neither Sony or Microsoft have.
The only thing the others have that Nintendo doesn't, is a Kinect(like Sony) camera, and 4K.
Think about what these things can do, not how they do them, which is what the specs explain in the first place.
If Reggie says the Wii U can handle powerful HD graphics on the Jimmy Falon show, I'm pretty sure he's talking that much more powerful than anything available from any company, prior, besides PC which has a stronger presence in a non-gaming market.
By modern I mean having adequate support and being on par tech wise with the next gen twins. Also I wouldn;t take anything non developer exes would say.
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When you first start out, whatever kind of artist you are, you push boundaries. Why? Because you have to. You are an individual. You have something unique to say. And you need to push boundaries in order to say it, because nobody's ever said it before quite the way you will.
As you continue to grow as an artist, you need to push fewer and fewer boundaries. Not because you have less to say, but because you've already carved out a space in which you can say it, and a space in which folks are comfortable when you say it.
You can't keep pushing boundaries forever, because if you do you're pushing them for the sake of pushing them. And that helps nobody. It does no good to push boundaries because, hey, might as well. That's when you've officially started trying too hard. You push boundaries when you need to push them. When you don't, you do brilliant things WITHIN boundaries. And there's no serious artist alive that would tell you any differently.
Quite how "quality" and "boundary pushing" started going hand in hand in the mind of gamers is beyond me. I'd rather have a great game that pushes no boundaries than a mediocre game that pushed boundaries that did it no good. One of them I might admire in some sort of passing way for what it attempted to do...but I know which one I'd actually spend my time playing.
Where's the like button? I need to mash it mercilessly.
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By modern I mean having adequate support and being on par tech wise with the next gen twins. Also I wouldn;t take anything non developer exes would say.
Dude, there's only 2 features the Wii U can't support in comparison to other consoles: 4K and a camera.
That's besides NFC and 9-axis.
You need to understand what specs actually mean before you can determine whether they are important or not.
EDIT: Also, Reggie can't/won't lie about a Nintendo product. It's false advertising, and he would have been fired by now if he had lied.
Just how powerful the Wii U is is subjective. In comparison to the Wii, the Wii U does have "powerful HD graphics", but how will it compare to the XONE/PS4? You can call E.T. a fun game without it being false advertising. Many others may not enjoy it, but if you enjoy it, calling it "fun" would not be "false" advertising, it would be opinion.
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Just how powerful the Wii U is is subjective. In comparison to the Wii, the Wii U does have "powerful HD graphics", but how will it compare to the XONE/PS4? You can call E.T. a fun game without it being false advertising. Many others may not enjoy it, but if you enjoy it, calling it "fun" would not be "false" advertising, it would be opinion.
I'm comparing the systems to all of last generation. What would "powerful HD graphics" mean in comparison to say, the PS3? All 7th gen consoles are taken into account with that statement.
We already know the Wii U is more capable than the PS3. The question is by how much.
The graphics can still be better without 4K. The Xbox One and PS4 are going to have to render polygons and textures of alot of content in 4K resolution in the future, and that takes more processing than 1080p.
EDIT: They have to take that into account when they're trying to make a game good to go on either a 1080p or 4K display.
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@SCAR392 : Take this into account though, you are comparing the Wii U to old technology. The word "powerful", in the way it is being used, should correlate to the current standard, which, in Reggie's statement, seems not to be the case. He seems to be comparing the Wii U to the previous generation. The Wii U is by no means less capable than the PS3 and 360, but the fact that we compare it to 6 year old technology clearly shows the Wii U is not a "powerful" console, but a capable console. It can hold it's ground, but the application of the technology doesn't have the same chance to do something groundbreaking. I'm not saying the Wii U will have groundbreaking titles, or that the One/PS4 will have more, but think about this. If the Wii U was as capable (I prefer this word to powerful) as the Next-Gen Twins would Nintendo not have the potential to make a better game? They could create larger worlds, more complex AIs, and experiment with new game concepts that were previously impossible. This also applies to graphics. The Wii U will undoubtedly sport better graphics than some games we see on the One/PS4, but they have a greater chance at having better graphics because they can manage much more. Also, just as some food for thought, think about how 4K and HD are used as separate terms. By saying the Wii U has "powerful HD graphics" Reggie is saying the Wii U has HD graphics. Comparing that to 4K is irrelevant. It is Wii U HD versus Next-Gen Twin HD, not 4K versus HD.
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