Topic: Nintendo trying to acquire Rare

Wii Sports is on a Nintendo and buttons and innovation so it automatically wins!

Exactly! Nintendo invented the idea of doing physical activities for fun! They called it 'sport,' - strange name, I know, but so, so innovative.

Couldn't care less... -.-
Could care less implies you care somewhat thus making the statement redundant.
I dont know what you're talking about regarding the XBox360 being for kids - there are plenty of games for 18+ on the system.

I'm not very wise on the subject of business, but couldn't Rare just leave MS and go to Nintendo? No matter how much money MS offers them?

To give the very short answer: No. Microsoft owns Rare.

...no, no they cannot. The people there might be able to leave, assuming they're not under some kind of contract. But a whole company cannot go to whoever it wants to.

Thanks

Were there any other sports video games that you would actually swing your arm to swing a tennis racket, baseball or bowling ball before Wii Sports? Has there been since Wii Sports?

You're right. It's hugely original to take sports (something that's been around for thousands of years) and video games (something that's been around for 50-odd years) and put them together.

Also, I played a horse-racing game in an arcade years before I played a Wii where you would sit on a "horse" and have to ride it like you would a real horse. Using a peripheral to emulate a real sport in a video game. I'm sure it wasn't the first example of that, either.

(and now no doubt someone will come back and say "but Wii Sports is the first time you do it in a lounge room!" Thus completely redefining the definition of the word "innovation," to suit their point of view).

lol. Alright, man. If you don't feel like kinect sports is a blatant rip off of Wii Sports, then that's fine.

Huh. What an odd thread.

You sir, win the internet.

So what you're saying is Microsoft coincidently (and not because they were smart at making money) released the Kinect, their motion controlled gaming thing which coincidently (and not because they were smart at making money) goes after the same casual gaming audience as Wii which had become a huge success. And Microsoft doing everything they can to make sure Kinect was a success regardless of whether hardcore gamers liked it or not(which has never happened to Nintendo at all) had nothing to do with looking at what was already successful for a motion controlled gaming. And of course, we must believe that Kinect Sports, which coincidently (and not because they were smart at making money) is the name of the device used for motion controlled video games + Sports, also coincidently (and not because they were smart at making money) was released at launch. And of course, it is very much coincidental (and not because they were smart at making money) that for their system name Sports title they marketed their sports compilation launch title for Kinect towards the exact same people as Wii Sports in a game where you play as your avatars that HAS ICONS OF THE SPORTS IN THE GAME IN LITTLE BOXES ON THE FRONT OF THE GAME. So what I'm getting at is that either a. Microsoft makes money via luck and coincidence or b. games that are blatantly inspired by other games are inherently bad. Either reason is completely false. I mean, I wish they pulled more of the classic "taking from one source is plagiarism, taking from multiple sources is research" for their game and I wish Rare still made games I'd be interested in buying but there's cool stuff in Kinect Sports that's certainly not in Wii Sports, especially the flawed for gaming but interesting technology. I'll gladly make fun of it because it's too easy not to but whatever.

Oh, no, Kinect Sports is clearly based on Nintendo's Wii Sports, I'm not denying that. Microsoft realised that motion sports games were popular, so decided to emulate the style that made the Nintendo game popular.

It also worked. Kinect Sports sold just dandy.

But here's what I am saying: 1) Nintendo doesn't get to claim ownership on the idea of sports games. Or even sports games that use peripherals to emulated the actions that you perform in 'real sport'. These existed in various forms in arcades before the Wii existed. Nintendo brought it to the home, yes, but if Nintendo gets to be innovative for that then Microsoft gets to be innovative for removing controllers entirely from these games.

2) Many people seem to have this childish idea that if someone has an idea, and it sells millions and millions, that everyone else should leave anything remotely related to that idea alone, and if they dare to "copy" the idea they automatically make that idea crap. They don't need to play these games to make this assessment, they just know, because their company made it first.

Of course, when their company then does exactly the same thing, these people have an amazing capacity to come up with excuses defending their company. So, for instance: Watch what happens when I say this:

Nintendo Wii U is a copy of iPad and Airplay, but with buttons

Face it everyone copies everyone else and there's really nothing truly original, but that's how we innovate and move forward. Someone comes up with a product, someone else decides they can make it better, then someone else comes up with something even better. It's why competition is good.

Nintendo, MS and Sony all have motion controls that all had sports titles. The consumer then can choose which one succeeds or which one is right for them.

Apple's got Airplay via Apple TV for media and gaming. Nintendo's got the Wii U. Microsoft has SmartGlass. Sony is working on Android tablet and PSP/Vita integration.

Holy Crape at this thread.

1) there was an eyetoy sports game on PS2.
2) Who gives a crap who made what first as long as the game is good.
3)Smartglass is going to chrush wii U.

1. I don't think we're comparing the PS2 EyeToy, but the PS3 Move which came bundled with Sports Champions. Just like there was Wii Sports and Kinect Sports.

2. Agreed

3. Only if developers use it. The demo at E3 was great, but none of that is coming any time soon. Also, none of it really showed gameplay. I don't think SmartGlass will really be more than vaporware until the next console comes out. The current Xbox app for the iPad as it is right now is pretty sluggish on response time. Although kudos to MS for allowing us to bring our own device.

3) AirPlay already has crushed Wii U. <_<

Well I was talking about adoptin. Developers only write software if the userbase is their. Smartglass is going to come installed on every Windows 8 and Windows Phone device. That's going to be a lot of hardware pushed in the fall so the install base will be their.

Plus
all Microsoft studios games will have smrtglass intergration with a few this fall.
All xbox apps will have smartglass features
Watchdogs will use smartglass
EA sports games next year will use it as well.