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That is the most irrelevant post I've ever seen. You might as well have posted the Jimmy Fallon eating popcorn one. It would have had the same effect.

The effect was surely to provoke a response from you (success!) and express astonishment.

I have to say that the paragraphs in question amounted to speculation of a Michael Pachter-esque magnitude.
When you don't have the facts, you can't make up near-truths to replace them.

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[The casual] attitude is, ‘okay, I am the customer. You are supposed to entertain me.’ [...] and to me it’s kind of a pathetic thing.

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AbeVigoda wrote:

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@Abe_Vigoda
That is the most irrelevant post I've ever seen. You might as well have posted the Jimmy Fallon eating popcorn one. It would have had the same effect.

The effect was surely to provoke a response from you (success!) and express astonishment.

I have to say that the paragraphs in question amounted to speculation of a Michael Pachter-esque magnitude.
When you don't have the facts, you can't make up near-truths to replace them.

Ya, but some will not accept facts for what they are. There is proof everywhere that Nintendo isn't down. Look at the post rallydefault posted. I make my judgements based on information like that, which are facts.
This isn't about being biased or being emotionally attached to a stance. If Sony were in the same position as Nintendo in a parallel world or whatever, I would defend that stance just as much, but that is not the case.
Even so, 'near truth' is just as viable when there is no truth to be had. It's called figuring and making sense of things. That is a completely rational way to find facts, whether it may not be at the time.

EDIT: BTW, my stance is partial to Pachter's. I would say Nintendo and Microsoft will do good, while PS4 will be the one left out. I'm defending one of his predictions(Xbox doing well, and actions to be taken), and arguing the other 2, which is that Nintendo has been presumably dead since Wii. That is obviously not the case.

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43. Posted:

Man, these topics get really boring.

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44. Posted:

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I just think people are over reacting to this whole situation. Seriously, Xbox 360 and PS3 have been starting to get boring for years already. The systems reach their peak, and they start thinking of when to release a new one.
If anything, Nintendo has kept momentum going for the whole industry. I think Wii U is great, it just takes patience for stuff to really take off. Better games are coming, and will continue to do so whether it's apparent or not. They aren't going to just release a new console and let it die, especially given that Nintendo is doing better in this specific field of business. Sony and Microsoft have sacrificed alot to gain a place in the game business, and lets not forget their stock and revenue isn't only from games.
It doesn't make sense to expect to the Great Wall of China to be built in one day. If that's the mindset people always had, we wouldn't have any of this stuff to begin with.

Boring to who?
Both are still releasing games that sell well and garner a lot of interest.

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These threads are like herpes: You keep thinking you've got it under control but when you least expect it it flares up in another spot.

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I just think people are over reacting to this whole situation. Seriously, Xbox 360 and PS3 have been starting to get boring for years already. The systems reach their peak, and they start thinking of when to release a new one.
If anything, Nintendo has kept momentum going for the whole industry. I think Wii U is great, it just takes patience for stuff to really take off. Better games are coming, and will continue to do so whether it's apparent or not. They aren't going to just release a new console and let it die, especially given that Nintendo is doing better in this specific field of business. Sony and Microsoft have sacrificed alot to gain a place in the game business, and lets not forget their stock and revenue isn't only from games.
It doesn't make sense to expect to the Great Wall of China to be built in one day. If that's the mindset people always had, we wouldn't have any of this stuff to begin with.

Boring to who?
Both are still releasing games that sell well and garner a lot of interest.

They aren't completely boring(my fault about over exaggerating), but consoles do lose steam. That's the whole reason why they they even release new ones at all. I would argue that GCN, Xbox, and PS2 were awesome consoles at the time(never did like PS honestly. I would argue that they were behind the times way back in PS1 and 2 days to an extent), but people find something better to occupy their time. That's the perfect time for a company to release a console that picks up where they left off while still bringing something worthwhile to drag people back in, and sometines that 'something' can be very unexpected. I would say Wii remotes are more relevant than ever since they are back as a main control method for even the new console.

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You people are laughable. A bunch of forum-goers trying to masquerade as professional analysts.

And you feel you weren't in that segment of laughable people how? You just spilled out the same ole stuff acting like you know every detail as well.

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rallydefault wrote:

You people are laughable. A bunch of forum-goers trying to masquerade as professional analysts.

And you feel you weren't in that segment of laughable people how? You just spilled out the same ole stuff acting like you know every detail as well.

Shhhh RancidVomit, its cute when they think their right.
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49. Posted:

BadKitty wrote:

RancidVomit86 wrote:

rallydefault wrote:

You people are laughable. A bunch of forum-goers trying to masquerade as professional analysts.

And you feel you weren't in that segment of laughable people how? You just spilled out the same ole stuff acting like you know every detail as well.

Shhhh RancidVomit, its cute when they think their right.
I haven't seen so much butt hurt in one thread this year, I'm gonna need a second bag of popcorn for this!

It's sad, isn't it?

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50. Posted:

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Nintendo- outsells the Vita 30 to 1, outsells the Xbox and PS3 2 to 1.
Publisher of 5 of the 10 highest rated games of all time.
Developer of the first 3 highest rated.

I wish I could be half as "down" as Nintendo is...

This guy gets it

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51. Posted:

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The Wii U is doing great, it has Pikmin 3 on the way.
While other consoles have way better games coming out for it, and then some

Oh i didnt know they signed the next zelda and 3D mario, must have happened overnight

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52. Posted:

gavn64 wrote:

LordJumpMad wrote:

The Wii U is doing great, it has Pikmin 3 on the way.
While other consoles have way better games coming out for it, and then some

Oh i didnt know they signed the next zelda and 3D mario, must have happened overnight

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53. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

You never learn. I've explained so many times how I actually have reason behind my points. Every time you call me biased or a fanboy, you automatically lose all respect in an argument, especially when you have no evidence to prove otherwise.
That s*** is old. I'm not even pissed, but seriously.

EDIT: BTW, you are using an opinion against my supposedly BIASED opinion, by stating PS and Xbox have better online. They don't have anything better than Nintendo IMO, so being behind in terms of online would therefore be your OPINION.
So I'm guessing that your opinion isn't biased, yet mine is? How does that even work? I could say your just as biased against Nintendo.

I didn't write my comment based off of an opinion.

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I dunno. Nintendo has been doing pretty well despite being "behind"

It's pointless to brag about catching up in a race when, in the end, you still lost.

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Nintendo- outsells the Vita 30 to 1, outsells the Xbox and PS3 2 to 1.
Publisher of 5 of the 10 highest rated games of all time.
Developer of the first 3 highest rated.

I wish I could be half as "down" as Nintendo is...

Two years into the next generation of handhelds isn't the best route of determining whether or not either are a success.

Yes, highly rated games truly shows how successful Nintendo was.

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54. Posted:

Picture trolls are more effective when the pic link actually works ;)

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RancidVomit86 wrote:

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You people are laughable. A bunch of forum-goers trying to masquerade as professional analysts.

And you feel you weren't in that segment of laughable people how? You just spilled out the same ole stuff acting like you know every detail as well.

Sorry, buffalo dude. I don't see the "same ole stuff" that I "spilled out" anywhere else in this thread. And a bit further down in the thread... somebody calling attention to "butthurt"? What in the world? Is there honestly any better way for somebody to completely disregard your opinion than to type out a word like that? You make fun of the people posting in this forum, yet here you are posting in the very same forum.

I feel I'm not in the segment of laughable people because all I did was type out the FACTS. You can't refute them. The laughable people, as I'm still going to refer to them as because I'm still laughing at them, offer no real facts but only hunches, guesstimates, and emotionally charged personal opinions. Does that answer your statement/question?

I suppose I'll say it again: I hope all three of the major console makers stay in business. We all squabble and bicker now, but many analysts already believe this is going to be the last wave of consoles. Having a major console maker drop out of the race would only bring us one step closer to losing the hobby we all love, so I really don't see how anyone in their right mind would want to campaign against ANY of the big three if they want to see console games continue to grow.

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@Chrono_Cross
That race comment doesn't even make sense. This is so literal, and it probably sounds pathetic, but catching up in a race doesn't mean the race is over.
If Nintendo caught up to it's competitors, that means it's just as possible to still 'win', considering all parties are on equal ground. We have to see how Nintendo will do from this point forward. If we look back as far back as say, the 80's, Nintendo would still have advantages over their competitors. That is why they are still relevant to this day.

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rallydefault wrote:

RancidVomit86 wrote:

rallydefault wrote:

You people are laughable. A bunch of forum-goers trying to masquerade as professional analysts.

And you feel you weren't in that segment of laughable people how? You just spilled out the same ole stuff acting like you know every detail as well.

Sorry, buffalo dude. I don't see the "same ole stuff" that I "spilled out" anywhere else in this thread. And a bit further down in the thread... somebody calling attention to "butthurt"? What in the world? Is there honestly any better way for somebody to completely disregard your opinion than to type out a word like that? You make fun of the people posting in this forum, yet here you are posting in the very same forum.

I feel I'm not in the segment of laughable people because all I did was type out the FACTS. You can't refute them. The laughable people, as I'm still going to refer to them as because I'm still laughing at them, offer no real facts but only hunches, guesstimates, and emotionally charged personal opinions. Does that answer your statement/question?

I suppose I'll say it again: I hope all three of the major console makers stay in business. We all squabble and bicker now, but many analysts already believe this is going to be the last wave of consoles. Having a major console maker drop out of the race would only bring us one step closer to losing the hobby we all love, so I really don't see how anyone in their right mind would want to campaign against ANY of the big three if they want to see console games continue to grow.

And so another professional analyst has arrived.

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The Wii U is doing great, it has Pikmin 3 on the way.
While other consoles have way better games coming out for it, and then some

Oh i didnt know they signed the next zelda and 3D mario, must have happened overnight

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That race comment doesn't even make sense. This is so literal, and it probably sounds pathetic, but catching up in a race doesn't mean the race is over.
If Nintendo caught up to it's competitors, that means it's just as possible to still 'win', considering all parties are on equal ground. We have to see how Nintendo will do from this point forward. If we look back as far back as say, the 80's, Nintendo would still have advantages over their competitors. That is why they are still relevant to this day.

Nintendo has yet to catch up to its competition's online offerings.

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SCAR392 wrote:

@Chrono_Cross
That race comment doesn't even make sense. This is so literal, and it probably sounds pathetic, but catching up in a race doesn't mean the race is over.
If Nintendo caught up to it's competitors, that means it's just as possible to still 'win', considering all parties are on equal ground. We have to see how Nintendo will do from this point forward. If we look back as far back as say, the 80's, Nintendo would still have advantages over their competitors. That is why they are still relevant to this day.

Nintendo has yet to catch up to its competition's online offerings.

Not IMO. Nintendo had freaking radio and internet on its first 2 consoles.
Where the heck was Sony? They were making Walkman, VHS, and starting CD players. Those devices didn't have a computer in them at all, and weren't even close to having internet. That put Sony being even further behind than Nintendo, IMO, at least when it comes to game consoles and AI.
In a sense, Sony has caught up to how Nintendo was way back in '85, while Nintendo didn't create the physical memory formats. That is where Sony wins.

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