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rolLTheDice

Living in the past is where they are the best. I agree.

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uptownsoul

@GilVelez1 but as I pointed out on post 75 (I believe), nintendo's problem is that they are behind XB1/PS4 in HD & online infrastructure by 7 years.  Nintendo  has to invest in these things, which are cheaper, but you can't put a price tag on the 7years of experience your competitors have on you.  More importantly, Xbox, PS, AND 3rd party pubs & devs all went through the ups & downs of online & HD gaming TOGETHER.  Some exceptions like pubs & devs making pc games & Microsoft being in the pc software business.  But none of that will help nintendo out.

So your getting wiiU owners with online connection problems.  Your getting Miyamoto(sp?) saying HD games are harder than they first thought.  All that's to be expected & should have happened in 2006.

So your getting a WiiU that will miss out on some games (GTA5, MGS5). And have other games that will probably watered down like COD Ghosts (which will have 64 person online multiplayer maps that I don't think nintendo's online infrastructure can support).  As well as Elders scroll online that I'm hearing will be an attempt at a console based MMO.  

Your getting Miyamoto(sp?) saying HD games are harder than they first thought.  All that's to be expected & should have happened in 2006.

Furthermore, it should be troublesome when Miyamoto(sp?) says they thought HD gaming was going to be easier because I wonder if they built their hardware based on how hard they thought HD games were to make.  I dunno.

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gilvelez1

@uptownsoul - their hardware is great and can handle HD.
it won't affect their game making.
But yes. Even I thought back when the wii released that it shouldve been HD.
I don't understand how they can say the thing about tvs in the home when both their competition was going hd?
It just goes back to the n64 when they chose to stay with cartridges instead of disc... when they had already been experiementing with sony on a joint system which later became the ps1... that nintendo funded. Yes nintendo funded the entire ps1 project backed out and sony chose to still release it. The birth of sony playststion. The birth of the ps fanboys
But yes I completely agree with you.
I'm just patient and too old to (33) to worry about what they couldve done. Its the fact they are doing it now that makes me happy.
I don't think their decision to jump to hd now will have a downside due to the notso great leap that ps4 and xbox1 are offering.

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uptownsoul

@GilVelez1 since you seem to make coherent arguments pro-Nintendo, I'd like to get your response to my theory on Wii U being "kiddie" console. I think nintendo gets the kiddie label because their great gameplay gets packaged & presented in a cartoonish way.  I mean Pikmin 3, which maybe a great game, looks like sprouts or something.  Mario kart, again may be tons of fun to play.  But banana peels as weapons to make other go carts go slipping & sliding all over the place?  Even Mario is dressed in a bunch of animal costumes surrounded by turtles & walking mushrooms.  As good as these games may be to play, if you told me an 8 year old came up with the concepts, I'd believe you.  I mean ZombiU showed promise on concept & the Wii had Madworld, I think-a black & white gruesome game.  But nintendo doesn't make these cornerstone franchises to appeal to other kind of gamers.  No, instead...Donkey kong country & Kirby (which both may be fun, but concept people, concept)

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gilvelez1

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You can call any system from nintendo a kiddie system. Although there are probably more adults that play their systems. You have to work with what you have. They have kiddie franchises. They have adult ones to... metroid.. wii fit (now) and a few others. But the major thing is Nintendo knows what makes the money. They sell mario characters in lego pieces. My son has a whole mario bed set. They are going to lean towards those franchises right now and towards the holiday especially to help thier financial situation. With the WiiU they are trying to bring back/in the core gamer. So we will see more serious franchises also. Ala X... ZombiU.. and the mature ports they recieved thus far

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uptownsoul

@GilVelez1 "they will lean toward 'those' franchises now"? "will see serious franchises"? Really? But why doesn't nintendo promote & market their mature or adult franchises with as much zest as these child friendly games. It seems to me, as a Nintendo outsider that they didnt promote zombiU or Madworld before it 100% & that's why it did meet expectations, IMO. I mean when they want to really promote an exclusive (1st or 3rd party) it does good. They should treat 3rd party exclusives like 1st party on marketing & promotion if for no other reason than to convince more 3rd parties to do exclusives with them. See what nintendo needs more than anything is to enlarge their install base. 1st party games will do that, but I'm not sure Nintendo understands that a vigorous promotion of 3rd party mature games isn't a counter weight. I mean if sombody's gonna buy a Wii U because of Mario kart or pikmin 3, they're not going to reconsider because MadWorld U is ALSO coming out.

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gilvelez1

@uptownsoul
Third party advertizing is not their responsibility. Unless it is an exclusive then yes they need to promote better. Zombiu bundle pack was a nice touch.
Yes really- we will see more mature franchises on wiiu.
We already have.
Also Pikmin may look kiddie but it is NOT a kiddie game trust me. There is too much strategy thinking involved to label it kiddie.
Just you watch. Mature games will come.
As far as advertizing.. I hope they do better. I want them too. But have no answer as to why they haven't

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DualWielding

there's some famboyism going here, yah Nintendoes some things other consoles don't like Nintendo directs which are cool but Ninten-also-does some crappy things the competition is not doing like tying your digital games to your console with the risk of losing hundreds of dollars if your consoles is broken or stolen and region locking the consoles.....

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thatguyEZ

ferthepoet wrote:

there's some famboyism going here, yah Nintendoes some things other consoles don't like Nintendo directs which are cool but Ninten-also-does some crappy things the competition is not doing like tying your digital games to your console with the risk of losing hundreds of dollars if your consoles is broken or stolen and region locking the consoles.....

people know that if your 3DS breaks you can just pop your SD card out and you'll still have all your data right? I mean the only really common way to lose it would be if you dropped it in a pool or something or your 3DS got stolen but other than that you're pretty much good. I do agree however that Nintendo really does need to come out with a account based system for all your purchases and everything else regarding what you do on the systems. It's just ridiculous that they haven't gotten on this yet and it's really annoying to be honest.

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thatguyEZ wrote:

ferthepoet wrote:

there's some famboyism going here, yah Nintendoes some things other consoles don't like Nintendo directs which are cool but Ninten-also-does some crappy things the competition is not doing like tying your digital games to your console with the risk of losing hundreds of dollars if your consoles is broken or stolen and region locking the consoles.....

people know that if your 3DS breaks you can just pop your SD card out and you'll still have all your data right? I mean the only really common way to lose it would be if you dropped it in a pool or something or your 3DS got stolen but other than that you're pretty much good.

All that data on the SD card is tied to the system. So if your 3DS breaks and you don't send it to Nintendo and you just buy a new system, you won't be able to use the data on that SD card on your new system. Everything is tied to the system.
That's why not having an account system sucks.

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gilvelez1

I agree region locking sucks. But I do believe that set up will inevitably change. Nintendo may just not understand its importance till 6yrs from now (HD)

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Jani-Koblaney

gilvelez1 wrote:

I agree region locking sucks. But I do believe that set up will inevitably change. Nintendo may just not understand its importance till 6yrs from now (HD)

If it takes them 6 years to implement a account system, that's really sad..

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SCRAPPER392

I'm not being biased. I'd rather play Super Mario Sunshine, Galaxy, or Mario Kart instead of LBP or Jak & Dexter.
The PS games are still OK, but I just think Nintendo games are better.
I've played Uncharted 1 & 2. Still OK, but I prefer Gears of War. Again, Super Smash Bros. vs. PS Battle Royal. SSB. wins, IMO.

I will never like Sony 1st party games as much, compared to what Microsoft, Nintendo, or 3rd party companies bring out.

That's why I always go Nintendo first, and this generation, things seem to be leaning more torwards Xbox One for me if I decide to buy another console.
I had a Wii, then a PS3 before an Xbox 360 last gen, and I played my Xbox 360 more.
When I got bored of HD systems, I played Wii some more.
I'm not biased. I genuinely think Sony's first party games are relevant, just not to the point where I would argue they match or exceed anything the other companies offer.
I've played PS games, but have always found better gameplay, physics, and graphics(before PS3) to be better on any other system besides PS.
I even liked Sega more than than PS, and looked at them as equals, until I had no clue Saturn or Dreamcast existed and I realized they died by the time I had a GCN.

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uptownsoul

@scar392 I respect your opinion but all of what you just wrote was biased. And that's fine, but it's biased. To say what you said while showing no statistical proof (and I don't know how to statistically prove this game is better than that) is an opinion & by definition, biased. But I don't knock your opinion.

uptownsoul

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SCAR392 wrote:

I'm not being biased.

but I just think Nintendo games are better.

You keep telling yourself that.

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And can you go a little faster?!

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It's bias by definition. It's not necessarily a dirty word.

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AlexSays

Aviator wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

I'm not being biased.

but I just think Nintendo games are better.

You keep telling yourself that.

My favorite is when he said he wasn't biased, and then said he will never like Sony games. lol

Nope, fair and balanced, just like Fox News.

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SCRAPPER392

Well, lot of people are biased for PS, so I guess everyone's even.
I just don't like anything 1st party from Sony in comparison to games I can get from Nintendo or Microsoft 1st party, and 3rd parties.
BTW, I have alot of Sony products. I just don't like the gaming(PS) branch.

EDIT: The only reason why I said I'm not biased, is because hardly anyone listens to the reasons why I don't like a said game, or doesn't care. People's bias attitudes sometimes cause them to not take any other opinion seriously, because they don't understand.
You can't say someone is biased if you're biased, too. It's a pointless discussion.

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