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Topic: More reasons to buy a Wii U and PS4 to support Nintendo and Sony.

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Treverend

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These are all numbers pulled from public sources. This is all public knowledge and not made up, takes a 5 minute Google search. Can find it anywhere online or from www.opensecrets.org. I refuse to support companies who line the pockets of politicians or who lobby. Sony and Nintendo have done it too, but not to the same extent Microsoft has. Nintendo hasn't done it much at all compared to the other big two. Another reason to not support Micro$oft besides the horrible Xbox One which is the most DRM'ed console of all time.

1. Microsoft
Political contributions - $27,620,066
Lobbying - $113,696,000

2. Sony
Political contributions - $4,778,017
Lobbying - $32,333,000

3. Nintendo
Political contributions - $38,372
Lobbying - $60,000

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Jaz007

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This probably has to do with MS being a NA company and Sony and Nintendo being Japanese more than anything else.

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Treverend

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No Jaz, these figures are taken from Nintendo as a whole from what I could dig up. The North American branch and the main Co. Not sure about the Sony figures. You very well could be right I guess. Not sure what the laws are in other countries but in the U.S.A. I think they have to make their contributions public knowledge.

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shingi_70

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You do realize there's a high chance Sny will also have used games DRM (which is why they haven't said anything) and it would be benefical to the company to do so.

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Jaz007

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I mean since they are based in Japan they have less reason to make the contributions. Even if it's not because they are in Japan it's proabably because MS has more to gain than Sony and Nintendo.

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Treverend

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Yeah @Sony_70, I realize that. But even still, it won't be to the same extent as Xbox One. I already posted that if Sony takes that route I won't buy from them out of principle. We'll see.. I'm second guessing it. Think Sony would still do that after the backlash Microsoft has received?

True @Jaz007. I wonder how Japanese politics work and if they allow corporate contributions or lobbying?

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shingi_70

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Treverend wrote:

Yeah @Sony_70, I realize that. But even still, it won't be to the same extent as Xbox One. I already posted that if Sony takes that route I won't buy from them out of principle. We'll see.. I'm second guessing it. Think Sony would still do that after the backlash Microsoft has received?

Why despite the backlash the average consumer doesn't care and according to the way Eurogamer describes it than nothing is changing on the consumer level meaning they wont see a difference at all.

If Sony does what Microsoft is doing than they don't have to worry about the used game market since they'd be making money off of it. The Average user has shown time and time again they don't care about these things the core gamer complains about. Hardware wise this thing is going to be pretty damn expensive and they want to be making a profit as soon as possible. Holding pretty much all forms of revenue is doing that.

Honestly even the one isn't as anti-consumer as people say. The only real thing is the qusai always online and that's something that can be turned off by Microsoft, and again the average consumer won't care since they've been conditioned to feel any device that isn't online isn't worth using anyway.

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Yamagushi

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Why does it matter if they make political contributions? Your assuming all political contributions are bad...

"Honestly even the one isn't as anti-consumer as people say." It's not anti-consumer at all. If you buy used, or borrow from friends, you aren't a consumer. (Well technically your a consumer of whoever sold you it used, gamestop i.e. You aren't a consumer of the people who created the content.)

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theblackdragon

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@Yamagushi: You're still a consumer because you've purchased the device to play the game on, and you may make the call to actually purchase a copy of the game yourself to continue your save-file on after your friend has taken their disc back. If you could drop that tired 'game lending = piracy' comparison, i'd appreciate it greatly — there are legal precedents protecting a person's right to lend, borrow, or resell personal property, up to and including legally-purchased games, and there is a huge difference between buying one copy of a game and loaning it to a friend versus ripping the contents of a game you've purchased and offering it up in torrent form to thousands of leechers.

that said, you are right in saying 'not all political contributions are bad' — it depends on your personal point of view, your personal values and beliefs. There needs to be a bit more personal research done with regards to what spending was made, and I'm afraid Nintendo Life is not the place for such a politically-charged discussion. Thank you for making us all more aware, Treverend, and now it's time for everyone to do their own homework and make their own decisions. :3

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