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Hy8ogen

JeffreyG wrote:

Hy8ogen wrote:

JeffreyG wrote:

Wait, didn't Sonic Transformed support up to five players online via one console? I never used it, but I thought it was possible.

Both games are amazing in their own way, and I can't really decide which one is my favorite right now, since MK8 is a new game. Though Transformed isn't as polished as MK8, the track designs are really good, the game feels really fast (though the handling is a bit weird, but I could get over that) and the soundtrack is fantastic. At the other hand, MK8 also has great tracks and a really good soundtrack, though I think I prefer Sonic slightly over MK8.

Does it? The last time I was playing it I never saw the option for splitscreen online. If it does then I'll change my first post.

I believe you can play pretty much any single player mode in multiplayer by adding people in the main menu (before selecting a mode) by pressing the + button on each controller. I'm pretty sure you can also go online with multiple people this way, but like I said, I never used it myself. I'll need to try it sometime.

Thanks for the info.

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somotodsyo

Hy8ogen wrote:

JeffreyG wrote:

Hy8ogen wrote:

JeffreyG wrote:

Wait, didn't Sonic Transformed support up to five players online via one console? I never used it, but I thought it was possible.

Both games are amazing in their own way, and I can't really decide which one is my favorite right now, since MK8 is a new game. Though Transformed isn't as polished as MK8, the track designs are really good, the game feels really fast (though the handling is a bit weird, but I could get over that) and the soundtrack is fantastic. At the other hand, MK8 also has great tracks and a really good soundtrack, though I think I prefer Sonic slightly over MK8.

Does it? The last time I was playing it I never saw the option for splitscreen online. If it does then I'll change my first post.

I believe you can play pretty much any single player mode in multiplayer by adding people in the main menu (before selecting a mode) by pressing the + button on each controller. I'm pretty sure you can also go online with multiple people this way, but like I said, I never used it myself. I'll need to try it sometime.

Thanks for the info.

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unrandomsam

The good thing about All Stars Racing Transformed is all the characters control totally different.

By the time you have got all the *'s on the World Tour then you know every track perfectly. (Then realise you have been playing it wrong and start using Ages).

Don't know about the controls I can imagine 30fps makes them weird though. (If anything to me Mario Kart 8's controls feel sloppy).

The difficulty and variety are perfect in Sonic. Especially on S Rank one tiny mistake and it is first to last.

The other stuff stops it being boring but also trains you in the techniques. (Other than Risk Boosts that I haven't fully got to grips with yet other than a few locations).

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Hy8ogen

unrandomsam wrote:

The good thing about All Stars Racing Transformed is all the characters control totally different.

By the time you have got all the *'s on the World Tour then you know every track perfectly. (Then realise you have been playing it wrong and start using Ages).

Don't know about the controls I can imagine 30fps makes them weird though. (If anything to me Mario Kart 8's controls feel sloppy).

The difficulty and variety are perfect in Sonic. Especially on S Rank one tiny mistake and it is first to last.

The other stuff stops it being boring but also trains you in the techniques. (Other than Risk Boosts that I haven't fully got to grips with yet other than a few locations).

I disagree. Mario Kart 8's control is FAR from being sloppy. It is nice and tight. You have made several good points in your previous post but this is just trolling.

As for the characters, they do feel different. For the past few days I've been using Mario, Peach and Rosalina and I can guarantee that they feel different. It is just that the difference is not colossal. Which on its own is a good thing and a bad thing. However, different karts do drive different. Although some of them share similarities, Bikes and cars feels and drives totally different.

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Aviator

Hy8ogen wrote:

You have made several good points in your previous post but this is just trolling.

Translation, I disagree with what you said, so I'll call you a troll.

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Hy8ogen

Aviator wrote:

Hy8ogen wrote:

You have made several good points in your previous post but this is just trolling.

Translation, I disagree with what you said, so I'll call you a troll.

Nice try buddy. Keep at it.

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MikeLove

Aviator wrote:

Hy8ogen wrote:

You have made several good points in your previous post but this is just trolling.

Translation, I disagree with what you said, so I'll call you a troll.

Par for the course around here!

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Dreamz

I've only tried the demo for Sonic Racing, but I remember my big gripe was that the controls felt rather meh. I thought the rest of the game was good otherwise, however.

I would have considered getting it, but I still have some leftover anti-Sonic bias from back during the Nintendo vs. Sega days.

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Hy8ogen

Dreamz wrote:

I've only tried the demo for Sonic Racing, but I remember my big gripe was that the controls felt rather meh. I thought the rest of the game was good otherwise, however.

I would have considered getting it, but I still have some leftover anti-Sonic bias from back during the Nintendo vs. Sega days.

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jariw

unrandomsam wrote:

Hy8ogen wrote:

Wait, so the game is not 1080p 60fps? I'm confused here.

It is not the Steam version is though. The iOS version is also 60fps and even though the iOS one has no anti-aliasing its not an issue on a retina ipad.

(Only briefly tested the iOS one won't even properly try it without a controller).

Comparing Steam games with a game console is irrelevant IMO. Steam is not a hardware spec, steam-supported software will only run on 60 fps if the hardware is capable of it. On low-end Steam computers, it could 15 be fps as well.

Comparing the iPad's tiny screen (although hi-res) with how a traditional game console is connected is irrelevant IMO, although the iPad has its own eco system just like game consoles.

Both iPads and Steam computers don't run MK8 at all, AFAIK. So from a technically stand point, there is no way to properly compare the 2 games there.

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Aluwolf

While Mario Kart is fun it offers no challenge that Sonic has. It's so night and day, I'm not that good at the racing genre and 150cc in mario kart is still a joke.

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Aluwolf

jariw wrote:

unrandomsam wrote:

Hy8ogen wrote:

Wait, so the game is not 1080p 60fps? I'm confused here.

It is not the Steam version is though. The iOS version is also 60fps and even though the iOS one has no anti-aliasing its not an issue on a retina ipad.

(Only briefly tested the iOS one won't even properly try it without a controller).

Comparing Steam games with a game console is irrelevant IMO. Steam is not a hardware spec, steam-supported software will only run on 60 fps if the hardware is capable of it. On low-end Steam computers, it could 15 be fps as well.

Comparing the iPad's tiny screen (although hi-res) with how a traditional game console is connected is irrelevant IMO, although the iPad has its own eco system just like game consoles.

Both iPads and Steam computers don't run MK8 at all, AFAIK. So from a technically stand point, there is no way to properly compare the 2 games there.

It is relevant, there are a lot of multiplatform games that are locked to 30 frames on PC. We're comparing two racers from a technical standpoint, one being a multiplatform game You can't magically pretend the PC doesn't exist from some kind of bias.

It's clearly obvious you wouldn't be saying something if sonic was on the ps4 in 60 and 1080 so why the comments about the PC, if anything its the most legitimate platform because it's been out the longest and with every generation consoles keep trying to be one more than the last.

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krisko

Both games have their strengths and weaknesses. Right now I would say that I prefer MK8, though that may be partly because it is new.

Sonic:
Offers a true single player campaign and actively encourages the player to use all characters to unlock stuff.

5 player local multiplayer with the gamepad and 4 remotes.

More challenging (frustrating?) than MK.

Cons:

Only runs at 30 fps in single player, and even worse in multi.

Awkward interface that's difficult to figure out at first.

Strange controls with boats and planes.

Weaker items

Mario kart pros:

More accessibility ( everyone knows Mario Kart)

More tracks available to play.

More polished online

MKTV is a lot of fun.

Cons

Battle mode is lackluster (for now)

A bit scant for a purely single player game.

Even though Mario Kart 8 technically doesn't have as many features as Somic, the game feels more polished. It depends on what you want - polish or content.

krisko

Hy8ogen

Aluwolf wrote:

While Mario Kart is fun it offers no challenge that Sonic has. It's so night and day, I'm not that good at the racing genre and 150cc in mario kart is still a joke.

Agreed. The single player MK8 is indeed a tad bit easy. Although if you are really looking for challenge, you should playing the online mode and not the single player. The players who play online are seriously good.

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MK8 is amazingly fun, and SASRT is, to put it plainly, rather awful.

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jariw

Aluwolf wrote:

It is relevant, there are a lot of multiplatform games that are locked to 30 frames on PC. We're comparing two racers from a technical standpoint, one being a multiplatform game You can't magically pretend the PC doesn't exist from some kind of bias.

It's clearly obvious you wouldn't be saying something if sonic was on the ps4 in 60 and 1080 so why the comments about the PC, if anything its the most legitimate platform because it's been out the longest and with every generation consoles keep trying to be one more than the last.

The PC platform is the platform that I have by far the most experience with, and yet I would never compare it with any game console.

Since MK8 isn't multi-platform, it's not possible to technically compare between MK8 and SASR (which is what this thread is about) on any other platform than the Wii U, where both exist. Unless you'll say that MK8 runs at 0 fps and with no resultion on all other platforms.

If you want to compare with the PC model that has "been out the longest" (running on a 4.77 MHz 8088), you'll notice that you will not be able to run any PC software (including Steam) that any gamer would run today. Using the the Wii U (or PS4, or XBOne, or any other game console) model that has been out the longest, you'll notice that you can run all games written for that console (if you have all the required peripherals). Furthermore, Steam does not equal PC gaming. Steam is not a hardware spec.

jariw

afro_insomniac

MK8 is infinitely more fun than that sonic racing game . I played about 2 hours of that broken mess before deciding it wasn't even worth my time. MK 8 on theother hand I played nonstop over the weekend and will come back to it frequently for years to come. Entire different league of game, can't even compare the quality difference it's that large of a gap.

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Aluwolf

jariw wrote:

Aluwolf wrote:

It is relevant, there are a lot of multiplatform games that are locked to 30 frames on PC. We're comparing two racers from a technical standpoint, one being a multiplatform game You can't magically pretend the PC doesn't exist from some kind of bias.

It's clearly obvious you wouldn't be saying something if sonic was on the ps4 in 60 and 1080 so why the comments about the PC, if anything its the most legitimate platform because it's been out the longest and with every generation consoles keep trying to be one more than the last.

The PC platform is the platform that I have by far the most experience with, and yet I would never compare it with any game console.

Since MK8 isn't multi-platform, it's not possible to technically compare between MK8 and SASR (which is what this thread is about) on any other platform than the Wii U, where both exist. Unless you'll say that MK8 runs at 0 fps and with no resultion on all other platforms.

If you want to compare with the PC model that has "been out the longest" (running on a 4.77 MHz 8088), you'll notice that you will not be able to run any PC software (including Steam) that any gamer would run today. Using the the Wii U (or PS4, or XBOne, or any other game console) model that has been out the longest, you'll notice that you can run all games written for that console (if you have all the required peripherals). Furthermore, Steam does not equal PC gaming. Steam is not a hardware spec.

That line of thinking doesn't make sense. He is comparing two games, what imaginary rules say we only have to compare on the same console. We are comparing the advantages of sonic vs mario racing. One of them is that there is a way to get a better visual experience on the sonic one and it should not be stripped out.

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unrandomsam

jariw wrote:

Aluwolf wrote:

It is relevant, there are a lot of multiplatform games that are locked to 30 frames on PC. We're comparing two racers from a technical standpoint, one being a multiplatform game You can't magically pretend the PC doesn't exist from some kind of bias.

It's clearly obvious you wouldn't be saying something if sonic was on the ps4 in 60 and 1080 so why the comments about the PC, if anything its the most legitimate platform because it's been out the longest and with every generation consoles keep trying to be one more than the last.

The PC platform is the platform that I have by far the most experience with, and yet I would never compare it with any game console.

Since MK8 isn't multi-platform, it's not possible to technically compare between MK8 and SASR (which is what this thread is about) on any other platform than the Wii U, where both exist. Unless you'll say that MK8 runs at 0 fps and with no resultion on all other platforms.

If you want to compare with the PC model that has "been out the longest" (running on a 4.77 MHz 8088), you'll notice that you will not be able to run any PC software (including Steam) that any gamer would run today. Using the the Wii U (or PS4, or XBOne, or any other game console) model that has been out the longest, you'll notice that you can run all games written for that console (if you have all the required peripherals). Furthermore, Steam does not equal PC gaming. Steam is not a hardware spec.

Normally people compare exclusives to multi platform games you just don't want to compare the only version of Mario Kart 8 with the best version of All Stars Racing : Transformed. The only comparisons worth making are between the best versions of a title (Perhaps the best port if the Arcade version is the best version).

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