Topic: Logical 3rd party games thread

Let's be completely honest that Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed are probably never gonna be as popular on a Nintendo console as they are elsewhere. I think that's pretty true. Doesn't necessarily mean it can't do well on the console (especially once sales pick up more this Holiday season) but it does mean that Wii U doesn't have the same audience. And this is not entirely a bad thing, as the same games dominating everywhere is dreadfully boring and in a way it's cool we have a console where Pikmin 3 can outsell the Wii U versions of such big titles. Keeps things interesting (though there's many flaws with that logic as well, I admit). But similar reason we should all be happy that a decent chunk of indie games will outsell garbage like Fuse.

I'll still point out that people buying even the lamest spinoff titles (lol Pokemon Rumble) over 3rd party stuff makes my head hurt, but trying to put games that were successful elsewhere on Wii U with no fanfare and expecting the same results is not the right choice. It's obvious that some games will do better on Wii U than others, and for all the (sometimes justified) complaints of people only buying Nintendo games, it also depends on so much more. So, let's name games that make sense for the different audience Nintendo has. That is the focus, what is different about Nintendo that putting X game on Wii U would work well based SPECIFICALLY on that logic.

Also, no indie titles or the like unless they are notable and popular and you can justify it

I have a few ideas to start with.

-Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon. Child of Light has shown that Ubisoft can still find success on Wii U, and the console could use a non-COD FPS. I'd go with the intentionally silly and 80s spinoff of Far Cry 3, so Wii U can get a good Far Cry game and Ubisoft saves money from not porting a full retail game. Similarly, Valiant Hearts.

-A new Rayman. This is tough to justify as the series has never been huge and Legends just did ok even on Wii U, but I do honestly believe an actual exclusive Rayman (or at least a timed exclusive) would attract a lot of attention to Rayman. It almost did until Ubisoft threw away good PR to put it on consoles no one bought it on (maybe they should look at what happened when THQ pulled that ****)

-Similarly while Blood Bourne is gonna be a PS4 exclusive, we could get some Dark Souls ported. That has been a huge long-term success for everyone involved, and keeping that momentum going until they inevitably make another game with Souls in the title would be the best idea. Also, it's a game focused heavily on gameplay and has been frequently compared to the best examples of old school Nintendo challenge. Between that and how close Namco and Nintendo are right now, it would make sense to me.

-Persona 4. It sold well on even the Vita and Atlus is working on a crossover title with Nintendo. Also, Nintendo should take advantage of owning one of the most exciting upcoming RPGs.

-Bulletstorm 2. This would fit perfectly as a Bayonetta type situation. It's a well liked, over-the-top M rated game with crazy gameplay ideas that's not getting a sequel despite selling over a million because of how ridiculous budgets are.

I think any series without a long run on other consoles could find success on Wii U. The problem with longer running series is that if people are interested they most likely got a system to play it and are now invested in that series on that system's eco-system. Whether it is DLC or just having friends to play it. A game like Destiny would have had a chance on Wii U. With Destiny being such an connected game the FREE online of the Wii U would have been enticing to some and the GamePad could have added some unique features to the game (at the very least put party or friend info on the GamePad while you play so you don't have to enter a whole new menu to form up) New IPs have a real shot on Wii U, especially if they treat the Wii U and Wii U owners with respect and support those versions properly. Why couldn't the Wii U get even the 360/PS3 version of the game? The Wii U will be on the market longer than those two, (not since each console launch, just from the launch of Destiny) and is more powerful than those so it should be able to run it fairly easy... This isn't just about Destiny, I just used it as an example. Shadow of Mordor is another example.

Borderlands 2. action/rpg elements, over the top cell-shaded addictive gameplay.

I agree Nintendo console owners are just a different market. 3rd parties need to take longer view. In other words they need to develop a desire for their games. This obviously takes years and given the nature of big budget games this isn't financially justifiable in the short term.

I don't think a Dark Souls port is logical. From Software only has so much resources, and PS4 port would make much more sense than a Wii U port.

I guess I'm wondering is what genres are actually successful on the Nintendo console that aren't nintendo ips?

RE4 and ZombiU were both pretty successful on the Nintendo consoles they were on. Maybe survival horror would be a good one for Nintendo systems.

I could see Ubi doing some fun things with Dragon Blood or a similar game if they care enough to put effort into it, yeah.

Personally I'd rather have a Souls-like rather than a straight port, but a Souls port would probably be the better option financially.

An SMT or Etrian Odyssey on Wii U HAS to happen someday. The touch screen controller is perfect for this game.

ZombiU 2? I didn't like the first, but for God's sake, if they could do a Red Steel 2, why not a ZombiU 2? A more polished and focused entry would sell even me, and I hate zombies-related stuff with a relentless passion. I saw a ton of potential from what I played of the first.

Also, Red Steel 3 plz. Okay, it wouldn't be a big seller, but damn, the second game was so cool. At the very least I'd like another clever FPS with action elements. Or a full-fledged first person sword fighting game. Or both.

And can we get Tri-Crescendo to make another game? Please? None of their games are masterpieces, but everything they make is creative and interesting at least.

Other than that, I kinda just want publishers to release interesting and creative games. Even if they have to make smaller games. I can live with less content so long as what's there is fun.

Kingdom Hearts 3, Final Fantasy XV, Tales of Zestria, Dragon Quest XI.

It would be in From's best interest to make as many ports of their only majorly successful game since Armored Core 3 (2002) on as many platforms as possible. Especially since the game is mainly part of a large niche who like an old-school-style challenge. Kinda like a suprising amount of Nintendo gamers.

Capcom putting MH4U on Wii U.

• I agree that Rayman seems like an obvious choice. I'm no authority on platformers, but my understanding is that it's probably the best non-Nintendo platformer and they sell decently well on Nintendo systems.
• Certain JRPGs could do well. Until Xillia, Symphonia for GC was the best selling Tales of game, and even with Xillia, it took an installed base 4x the size to do it and only in Japan (Symphonia still sold better in NA and EU). Actually, according to VGC, the two best selling Tales games in America are Symphonia and Abyss 3D, both on Nintendo systems.
• Survival horror games have sold decently enough, and the Gamepad is a perfect marriage to that genre if used correctly.
• Talking to studios that actually care about making a unique, interesting product instead of making something just because it will sell a million copies. Platinum and Atlus should be given money to make whatever they want on the Wii U, and Level-5 should be doing more than just pumping out endless Prof Layton and Inazuma Eleven sequels for Nintendo.
• I think Monster Hunter can really just be Nintendo's answer to Dark Souls. Putting them on both 3DS and Wii U with crossplay functionality makes sense.

I actually think Monster hunter is a good example as to why the Souls series should consider the Wii U as it may reach a fanbase it hadn't yet.

If Nintendo can get the home console main series Dragon Quest on Wii U then that will be good. (Maybe Sony gets it that will be bad I think it will sell well whichever it is on).

also, From Software doesn't have to port their own game. Other people can do that job.

Also, I can't believe I forgot. Strider. Seriously, reboot of beloved old school platformer. How do you not have that on Nintendo? TBH, we could just put every good reboot of a game that had any console exposure in the 80s or 90s and it would probably fit on Nintendo.

And yeah, more Monster Hunter is obvious, only didn't bring that up because it's rumored they're gonna put 4 on Wii U.

New IP with Insomniac.

Nintendo is the only one of the Big Three that Insomniac hasn't worked with yet, and it's a very obvious pairing.

Kingdom Hearts 3 would do really well on the Wii U I bet. If you told a non gamer it was a 1st party Nintendo franchise, they'd easily believe you.

It won t work.... as u said, the Nintendo userbase have different tastes and is skeptical towards 3rd party titles. Moreover, given the inferior WiiU hardware compared to ps4 and xbox1 and the similar selling price for each games, ps4 and xbox1 versions of these game will be the choosen ones from the gamers community (if u own more than one console). The only chance is gettin sequel exclusive of popular games, like they did with bayonetta...

Ps: here were i live, wiiU is only 50 euros cheaper than ps4 (Normal retails, not talking about amazon or others)... this is not good at all, who is gonna choose wiiU if with 50 euro more you can get the "top notch"?

It won t work.... as u said, the Nintendo userbase have different tastes and is skeptical towards 3rd party titles. Moreover, given the inferior WiiU hardware compared to ps4 and xbox1 and the similar selling price for each games, ps4 and xbox1 releases will be the choosen ones from the gamers community (if u own more than one console). The only chance is gettin sequel exclusive of popular games, like they did with bayonetta...

Ps: here where i live, wiiU is only 50 euros cheaper than ps4 (Normal retails, not talking about amazon or others)... this is not good at all, who is gonna choose wiiU if with 50 euro more you can get the "top notch"?

People that want Nintendo games. The goal of attracting 3rd Parties back to Wii U is to add more value. If Wii U was getting the same 3rd Party support as even 360/PS3 currently are getting the Wii U would be an amazing choice. 3rd Party shouldn't be the reason to purchase a system, in my opinion. 3rd Party should only add value to a system with 1st Party games, which Nintendo has the best in 1st Party.