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Pahvi wrote:

Even the mere apparent necessity of a campaign described in the original post proves the opposite point.

Indeed. It's pretty sad actually.

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CanisWolfred

Yes, because in order to prove to third parties that Nintendo fans don't buy just Nintendo-published games, we're going to all get together an buy a Nintendo-published game.

My god this is stupid. We should just buy the game because we think its gonna be a fun game. Buying other games in the vain hope of getting the games you actually want just leaves you with less resources for said games you truly want.

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Am I the only one not particularly bothered about Bayonetta 2? I played the original on the 360 and while it had a great style and a load of panache, it wasn't much more than a mindless button-basher to me. It's very much in the same vein as the Devil May Cry series and I never really cared for those games.

As for third-party games, publishers have to take a lot of onus for poor sales after complaining about (self-perceived) lack-lustre sales for games they port which run worse on a more powerful console than the 360 & PS3 and are missing various features. What do they expect?

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Nintenjoe64 wrote:

Hopefully Project CARS and Watch Dogs both sell best on Wii U.

I don't think these games deserve to sell anything at all. Another downgraded port that has been delayed several times.

In terms of Pcars specifically, how is it downgraded other than by the limits provided by the Wii U? Have they removed something?

We don't know yet, but it's delayed and we haven't had any updates about it since XO/PS4 got picked up as platforms

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gage_wolf wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

k8sMum wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

Only a Wii U here and I'm 41. I think he's more off base then he realizes. Also I don't think women in general make the gaming decisions.

Let's not go there.

You're in the vast minority as I know no one that this is true for. Everyone I know the guys makes these decisions because for the most part their wives don't care as long aas they are age appropriate that is.

So because YOU don't know any female gamers, surely they don't exist right? Just... wow.

Yep, totally said they don't exist. Yep, those words came out of my mouth.

What I'm referring to is who makes the gaming decisions not if there are female gamers. Even if there is 30% of them in a household it's still the vast minority.

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SCRAPPER392

gage_wolf wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

EDIT: In conclusion, saying that the sales of a 3rd party/Nintendo collaboration title doesn't really matter that much, is undermining everyone involved.

Uhh, I think you're arguing against a point I even wasn't trying to make... I was commenting on the pointlessness of the #OperationPlatinum "movement". Bayonetta 2 selling really well doesn't prove anything new to major third party devs or anyone else, as this guy is claiming. It just solidifies the notion that only games made or bank-rolled by Nintendo will sell well. He's operating on some kind of heroic delusion that third parties "have it all wrong!" and getting everyone to buy Bayonetta 2 will bring all the devs back, and their mature-rated titles too!

Well, W101 didn't do so well with Nintendo's name on it. My point is that it's still important for this game to sell well, admittedly more so to Nintendo, but not for the reasoning this guy is saying. That we agree on. I was just getting the impression that no one thinks it's important for the game to sell well, overall. My mistake.

It's possible that 3rd parties might be paying attention to the turnout like this, but probably not, because it's not their games that are of a collaboration. No one should be obligated to buy something, though, so that's what makes the notion extra pointless than it already is.

EDIT: Also, no comment on the Devil's Third guy. I don't really follow.

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micronean

I'm going to get Bayonetta 2 despite the politics around it. But, whatever the case, it won't make much difference to anyone if the game sells 10 million copies, as it's still a Nintendo property. The most it'll do is just contradict some idle statements made by goofy execs. Big whoop.

More important is that the game is a quality title, that it gets great reviews, and that it keeps the developer making more games. As for Watch Dogs: The game already got mixed reviews. It is dead in the water. Nothing is going to make Watch Dogs any more appealing on Wii U than on the other platforms.

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ogo79

here let me fix this here...
you know whats going to happen? everyone is gonna try and help bayonetta sell 10 million copies on wii u then they are going to turn around and make bayonetta 3 for a non nintendo console. i hate to see people work hard for nothing.

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ogo79 wrote:

here let me fix this here...
you know whats going to happen? everyone is gonna try and help bayonetta sell 10 million copies on wii u then they are going to turn around and make bayonetta 3 for a non nintendo console. i hate to see people work hard for nothing.

I hope Nintendo took the extra steps to have rights of first refusal for a sequel in the event Bayonetta 2 does well. I mean, they can't be that stupid can they?

They should have something in place to ensure they get first rights to a sequel. If Nintendo did not take those steps after bankrolling Bayonetta 2, then we can officially say they have no idea how to deal with third-parties.

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Depends if Microsoft would have done it without that condition or not.

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Bayonetta 1 was awesome, I'm going to pre-order Bayonetta 2 and probably get another one at launch to raffle off.

I do miss three third party studios on the Wii U, hope they returns or else I will literally make the replacements for their void.

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shingi_70

So all you guys buying Legend of Korra, and Scalebound when that comes out, because if not, its less support Platinum than it is support my platform of choices interests.

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Imo you show them by not buying those games on other platforms. Cod not coming to WiiU? Don't buy on another platform! AC not coming to WiiU? Don't buy on another platform! Fifa not coming to WiiU? Don't buy on another platform! THAT way you show them that they have to release it on the WiiU. Now if you simply move on and say "well, I'll just buy it on my PS4/XO/PC" you'd simply prove them true.

As to Bayonetta 2: I've already preordered it since the announcment of the 1st title coming to WiiU. Platinum are gods of the action genre. Just look at titles like Vanquish and The Wonderful 101.

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gage_wolf wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

gage_wolf wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

k8sMum wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

Only a Wii U here and I'm 41. I think he's more off base then he realizes. Also I don't think women in general make the gaming decisions.

Let's not go there.

You're in the vast minority as I know no one that this is true for. Everyone I know the guys makes these decisions because for the most part their wives don't care as long aas they are age appropriate that is.

So because YOU don't know any female gamers, surely they don't exist right? Just... wow.

Yep, totally said they don't exist. Yep, those words came out of my mouth.

What I'm referring to is who makes the gaming decisions not if there are female gamers. Even if there is 30% of them in a household it's still the vast minority.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/female-adults-oust-teenag...

"[...]the number of women playing games on both consoles and mobile devices is up to 48 percent, from 40 percent in 2010." And now you look like an ill-informed Fox News anchor. The key is mobile devices. EVERY woman (or girl) I know has a smart phone and is usually almost constantly texting, calling, or....(you ready for this part!!!?) playing a game! Would any of these women EVER consider themselves gamers? ABSOLUTELY not. Sure, the amount of women playing on consoles has steadily increased, but it's still staggering how one-sided it is from a fan perspective and a developer's perspective. Almost all the best selling series on consoles are 99% geared towards men/young boys still. You think women are lining up for CoD, Last of Us, Gears of War, or the like? Sure, maybe a couple. But 80%+ of them are waiting in line with their boyfriends at the midnight release of Last of Us HD++++ while playing bejeweled on their phones...which they'll probably turn off and go sleep when they both get home and their boyfriends drool over the exploding heads and underage jailbait Ellie...console/dedicated gaming is still EXTREMELY one-sided in gender demographics.

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shingi_70 wrote:

So all you guys buying Legend of Korra, and Scalebound when that comes out, because if not, its less support Platinum than it is support my platform of choices interests.

No way I am gonna do that.... it's not my problem at the end if Nintendo was not able to secure blockbuster third party games... I got a ps4 and I will get for it everything I want which is not coming for WiiU.... what I can dois to choose WiiU versions of games which come multiplatforms, if they are not too gimped....

I'll get Bayonetta 2 though, not because of this silly campaign (bayonetta is released under Nintendo distribution, so it is not 3rd party, but just because is one of the few new releases I am waiting for WiiU....

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shingi_70 wrote:

So all you guys buying Legend of Korra, and Scalebound when that comes out, because if not, its less support Platinum than it is support my platform of choices interests.

Yes. Supporting 3rd parties that are on Nintendo is the point of this.

The other platforms don't need this.

Platinum certainly could use it in general but that's why they're on Wii U in the first place so...yeah...

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PokeMario

I really do hope people buy this game. I've played the original and it's more than just a mindless hack and slash game. Bayonetta was great and Bayonetta 2 looks like it's going to be even better.

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k8sMum

R_Champ wrote:

gage_wolf wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

gage_wolf wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

k8sMum wrote:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

Only a Wii U here and I'm 41. I think he's more off base then he realizes. Also I don't think women in general make the gaming decisions.

Let's not go there.

You're in the vast minority as I know no one that this is true for. Everyone I know the guys makes these decisions because for the most part their wives don't care as long aas they are age appropriate that is.

So because YOU don't know any female gamers, surely they don't exist right? Just... wow.

Yep, totally said they don't exist. Yep, those words came out of my mouth.

What I'm referring to is who makes the gaming decisions not if there are female gamers. Even if there is 30% of them in a household it's still the vast minority.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/female-adults-oust-teenag...

"[...]the number of women playing games on both consoles and mobile devices is up to 48 percent, from 40 percent in 2010." And now you look like an ill-informed Fox News anchor. The key is mobile devices. EVERY woman (or girl) I know has a smart phone and is usually almost constantly texting, calling, or....(you ready for this part!!!?) playing a game! Would any of these women EVER consider themselves gamers? ABSOLUTELY not. Sure, the amount of women playing on consoles has steadily increased, but it's still staggering how one-sided it is from a fan perspective and a developer's perspective. Almost all the best selling series on consoles are 99% geared towards men/young boys still. You think women are lining up for CoD, Last of Us, Gears of War, or the like? Sure, maybe a couple. But 80%+ of them are waiting in line with their boyfriends at the midnight release of Last of Us HD++++ while playing bejeweled on their phones...which they'll probably turn off and go sleep when they both get home and their boyfriends drool over the exploding heads and underage jailbait Ellie...console/dedicated gaming is still EXTREMELY one-sided in gender demographics.

Perhaps the reason for fewer female gamers is all the exploding heads and portrayal of women as jailbait in so many games. You are dismissive of those of us who consider ourselves to be as much a gamer as yourself, tho. If you are in the majority, I don't see where all your anger is coming from. Many guys only play on smartphones. I have played video games since Pong. I don't play FPS s because of motion sickness. I generally don't play war games because I don't care for them. But I sure as hell play more than Bejewelled.

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