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41. Posted:

brooks83 wrote:

I know that many games I enjoy will never be embraced by the mainstream. So what? Play what you like and don't worry about others think.

I never thought the talking tomato from Salad kingdom could make so much bloody sense.

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Jaz007

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You know that Sony has first-party to rival Nintendo's right? What is this business about Sony not making games for its systems?
You only need to pay a yearly fee to play online on PS4. All things like Netflix, and all of the social services don't require you to have PS Plus.

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banacheck wrote:

"Sony has already required remote play for PS4 games, that already guarantees any multiplatform port for the GanePad to be used with"

Please tell me how another system guarantee's any multiplatform port for the Gamepad? What your saying no makes sense, as remote play works totally different from how the Gamepad works with its console.

This should make it clear,

"The GamePad itself isn't anywhere near as complex as even the most basic Android tablet - essentially it's a standard game controller, with a touch-screen and a WiFi card, paired up with a decoder chip for the incoming video stream. Controller inputs themselves are beamed back to the Wii U via the same WiFi channel (180 times per second no less), in contrast to the Bluetooth employed by the Wiimote"

The Wii U GamePad's off tv play and remote play is exactly the same as using a PS Vita to do the same thing. That whole bit about not being as complex as a basic Android... It doesn't matter, because the Wii U does the processing. That explains nothing, because I already knew that, and it doesn't matter for what both devices are trying to do.
The Vita gets the video, controls, and audio streamed just as much as the GamePad when using remote play. This guarantees multiplatform ports for the GamePad, because any PS4 game in development requires remote play, which the GamePad does.

@Jaz007
I have no clue where you read that Sony has no first party games in this thread. That was a pretty delusional post... Also, remember that PS4 is supposed to be a gaming system. No free online after doing so for a long time now, is a shot in the foot for Sony, especially since that was part of alot of PS fans arguments for years. That argument is completely out the window now, since Sony is now charging for online gaming.

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45. Posted:

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Hopper2004 wrote:

Hey guys.
Rant alert! Okay, yeah a rant is coming...

So, somethings been bugging my a lot lately, and I just got to talk about it somewhere. Now, I've always been a Nintendo fan (I would fit under the category of "fan boy" :P) and, yeah, there are a lot of people who trash talk on Nintendo, but I've always just been able to ignore them. However, recently there has been things that I just CAN'T STAND.

So, the Wii U. I have it, and love it. It's tons of fun. the worst thing is that there's only a good few of games for it. (Which is to be expected, as it just launched.) Now, people blame Nintendo for this, but Nintendo is practically the only one who seems to be making games for the Wii U! People like Activision and EA almost refuse to develop/port games to the Wii U. Now, I couldn't care less about EA and Activision games, but, the fact that they're not making games means that the console is a "no-go" for fans of their series. Which means less sales, which means companies won't make games for it.

Okay, lets go into something different. People were really upset about how the PS4 and Xbox One didn't have backwards compatibility. I wish there was a console that had full backwards compatibility plus a service where you could buy previous retro games.... Oh wait. The Wii U.

Both the Xbox One AND the PS4 you MUST pay a monthly fee for internet services. Man that stinks. I wish that there was a console that would let you play online for free... Oh wait. The Wii U.

Also, people constantly whine about the price of the Wii U, and how they want a price cut, but then go onto droll over the PS4.
Wii U Deluxe set: $350
PS4: $400
Xbox One: $500

Another thing, people hate the DRM on the Xbox games, and how used games are frowned upon. Nintendo is all for used games, and sharing them.

Okay, so back to the games. Nintendo has made, and is making a bunch of upcoming games. And people complain on how that they're not making enough games. How many games are Sony and Microsoft making on their console?.... Oh wait. None. (That I know of. Correct me if I'm wrong.)

Okay, okay, okay, I'm sorry for ranting so much, but this has really been bugging me. And I'm sure that there's plenty of people who agree with me (hopefully). And I'm not say "oh Sony sucks and xbox is terrible". We (my family) have a PS3 and I love it! (Uncharted is the defiantly the best game of the console.) And the only reason I don't have an Xbox 360 is because of money. I'm fine with both PS4, and Xbox One. I'm just tired of everyone else not being fine with Nintendo. It seems like every time they do something, people will complain.

Thanks for your time!

(Also, Yesterday I saw a Miiverse post of someone who said "I just switched from Xbox to Wii U! Best choice in my life!". It made me happy... :D)

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46. Posted:

@Jaz007
Ahhh, I see. I just figured I shouldn't touch base with that argument. Anyways, I don't really give a crap about Sony IPs anyway. There could be an Uncharted, inFamous, Jak and Dexter, Ape Escape, PS all Stars, Little Big Planet, etc all on day one, and I still wouldn't care about PS4.

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Hopper2004

47. Posted:

brooks83 wrote:

Man, the OP needs a hug.

Reading a lot of these replies have made me feel better, but one would be nice.

mamp wrote:

Oh great a fanboy >_> whining about how people bash Nintendo, guess what all fanboys bash each other's games systems.

But I'm not bashing any console/company. I love the PS3 and the only reason I don't have an Xbox is because of money.

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There's even worse, Apple's four different versions of the iPad have been called

  • iPad
  • iPad 2
  • iPad
  • iPad with Retina display

Don't forget the iPhone 5!... The sixth iPhone!

SkywardLink98 wrote:

But it's only backwards compatible with a Wii. The game's most of these people are interested in playing are on the PS3/X360.

Only backwards compatible with the Wii, but also you can play any games that they release on the Virtual Console.

Thanks for the replies guys! I really do love hearing your opinions! Keep 'em coming!

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mamp

48. Posted:

Sorry about the last comment I was cranky last night. Anyways just stop worrying about it, it's just unnecessary stress, just play the games you love and who cares what anyone else says. We're all entitled to our opinions and well people are just gonna say bad things about Nintendo, but there's really no need to worry because they're basically just words and they don't know if Nintendo will fail (and come on they haven't failed yet). Also it's just something fanboys do they bash the other consoles they don't like. Personally I hate fanboys because gaming is all about the games people! Who cares what system they're on, the graphics, and how childish or mature the games are. If they're good and you like them go for it. No reason to whine or even deny yourself a good game because you wanna be a blind fanboy. Fanboys are just people that want an excuse to segregate other groups and find and a reason to pick a fight with them.

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Hopper2004

49. Posted:

mamp wrote:

Sorry about the last comment I was cranky last night. Anyways just stop worrying about it, it's just unnecessary stress, just play the games you love and who cares what anyone else says. We're all entitled to our opinions and well people are just gonna say bad things about Nintendo, but there's really no need to worry because they're basically just words and they don't know if Nintendo will fail (and come on they haven't failed yet). Also it's just something fanboys do they bash the other consoles they don't like. Personally I hate fanboys because gaming is all about the games people! Who cares what system they're on, the graphics, and how childish or mature the games are. If they're good and you like them go for it. No reason to whine or even deny yourself a good game because you wanna be a blind fanboy. Fanboys are just people that want an excuse to segregate other groups and find and a reason to pick a fight with them.

There is nothing wrong with your post what so ever. The earth (and gaming "community") needs more people like you!

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50. Posted:

My issue with Nintendo is that they're supposed to have this enormous stockpile of cash from the Wii/DS years, yet they clearly didn't put it to good use, ie: buying up development studios to work on WiiU. I don't just mean some, I mean A LOT of new blood.
Clearly they can't rely on third parties, so what I think they should have done was made a budget HD system with an ordinary controller, and then... (here's the clever bit) MAKE LOTS OF GAMES FOR IT. Outsource the smaller IPs like Star Fox and F-Zero to second parties, so that we get a steady stream of classic Nintendo games. Because at the end of the day, that is why people buy Nintendo systems right?
Ditch the gadgets and focus on the games I say.

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Hopper2004 wrote:

skywake wrote:

There's even worse, Apple's four different versions of the iPad have been called

  • iPad
  • iPad 2
  • iPad
  • iPad with Retina display

Don't forget the iPhone 5!... The sixth iPhone!

Eh, well at least with the iPhone there is a clear progression. With the iPad you can go into the shop and ask for an iPad and they'll say "iPad 2 or iPad?" and you'll assume that the iPad 2 is the newer product. Before you see the price. To make things worse the iPad "3" had a retina display but didn't make a deal about it and how the iPad "4" IS making a deal about it.... so an uninformed consumer just looking at the box would probably think that's a new thing.

Compared to that the Wii U is very clear about what it is.

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skywake wrote:

Hopper2004 wrote:

skywake wrote:

There's even worse, Apple's four different versions of the iPad have been called

  • iPad
  • iPad 2
  • iPad
  • iPad with Retina display

Don't forget the iPhone 5!... The sixth iPhone!

Eh, well at least with the iPhone there is a clear progression. With the iPad you can go into the shop and ask for an iPad and they'll say "iPad 2 or iPad?" and you'll assume that the iPad 2 is the newer product. Before you see the price. To make things worse the iPad "3" had a retina display but didn't make a deal about it and how the iPad "4" IS making a deal about it.... so an uninformed consumer just looking at the box would probably think that's a new thing.

Compared to that the Wii U is very clear about what it is.

Tablets have become more like Laptops so there's no need for a new version name every year especially, when people know when the next upgrade is coming. Phones however still need the numbering and even that doesn't always help.

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MAB

53. Posted:

I have the Samsung Galaxy S4... Not a kiddie iPhone ;)

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JimLad wrote:

My issue with Nintendo is that they're supposed to have this enormous stockpile of cash from the Wii/DS years, yet they clearly didn't put it to good use, ie: buying up development studios to work on WiiU. I don't just mean some, I mean A LOT of new blood.
Clearly they can't rely on third parties, so what I think they should have done was made a budget HD system with an ordinary controller, and then... (here's the clever bit) MAKE LOTS OF GAMES FOR IT. Outsource the smaller IPs like Star Fox and F-Zero to second parties, so that we get a steady stream of classic Nintendo games. Because at the end of the day, that is why people buy Nintendo systems right?
Ditch the gadgets and focus on the games I say.

Yes, yes, yes!

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55. Posted:

@Hopper2004 /hug

@skywake Actually, it should be noted that the iPhone 4, if I recall right, did include Siri. According to Wikipedia, it's been around since the 3GS.
Edit: Oops, it was added to older devices after the S4, my apologies :P

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JimLad wrote:

Clearly they can't rely on third parties, so what I think they should have done was made a budget HD system with an ordinary controller, and then... (here's the clever bit) MAKE LOTS OF GAMES FOR IT..

This made me laugh.. lol

One of the problems though is that console development begins even before the previous console releases. They picked a direction for their next console before they ever knew the Wii would be a success (in terms of sales).

It may have been best for Nintendo fans though for them to scrap the tablet this gen, catch up to Microsoft and Sony in terms of power, and try the tablet next gen when the technology is cheaper. Instead they chose the tablet over power, and from what I've seen, that tablet is not worth missing out on nearly every third party game being made (besides the ports from last gen.. lol)

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rallydefault

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Don't worry, OP! Just play the games you like and hopefully each of the "big three" will have a solid niche this generation. If all else fails, you could always join us as part of the PC Master Race, as well! Then, instead of getting upset with people making fun of Nintendo, you can actually scoff at all of them for missing the forest for the trees!

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58. Posted:

@AlexSays
I'm not dissing you here, so, I just want to tell you, I like the idea of the tablet, at least Nintendo bring something new to the table, to the console. Most of the time in Sony and Microsoft, they tend to just put more graphics, which is while it's not a bad thing, but I want to see more innovation! I mean, yeah, they have awesome games, but well, the controls? Is there anything new in the new consoles? I know there's probably more than graphics, but that's the main thing people said... so yeah. ^^;;

I also can't diss other consoles because I never bought one, so... my opinion is clearly very biased.

Sorry if I offend you. :)

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59. Posted:

Now let me just say this before I start, I never owned an Xbox 360 or Playstation 3 simply because of time, money, and the games just didn't appeal to me. The problem I see with this next generation of consoles, is that the games look too similar to what we've been playing for the last 6 or 7 years with slightly better graphics. I know two of the consoles haven't even launched yet, and we might see more creative titles later in their lifespan, but there's nothing that really stands out as something that couldn't have been done before. That's just my opinion though, if you're excited for some of the upcoming games this year, that's great.

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mamp wrote:

Oh great a fanboy >_> whining about how people bash Nintendo, guess what all fanboys bash each other's games systems.

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