Actually most of this becoming very popular with the advent of ios/android/windows phone devices.

Gameization of such mundane tasks such as working out has become very popular. Look at the sales of items such as the fitbit PR the Nike fuel band,

There is a difference between the gimmick of say a wiimote and something like ios side games.

Hell and most are still games games like the Mass Effect mobile game which is a straight forward third person shooter that connects to the retail game to give you galactic ready ness points.

The Wii U is one whole year of software ahead of the other consoles, which gives it a major advantage. Until I actually see what the new consoles are, I fail to see why people will buy them, because as technology advances, changes between consoles become less major. What are Sony and Microsoft going to do, make it MORE 1080p? Am I mistaken, or are those graphics the highest it can get... Also, it's also about if developers can make a game for a system with the specs. If any of you remember the Sega Saturn, it was extremely hard for developers to program with so there was a small amount of good games for the system. Overall, people will buy the system if it has the new COD or Halo (both actually fun games at times) but now the Wii U actually has the graphics and memory capability to be able to process games that the Wii couldn't handle. The choices are: Get a PS4/720 with some good multiplatform games, or get a Wii U with the same multiplatform games ALONG WITH Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, Metroid, and more.

(Also, if this PS4 fails I don't know what Sony is gonna do, they already have a failing handheld)

microsoft and sony = quantity
nintendo = quality

enough said

I have no idea why people are constantly worried about things like this.

yeah you need to quit drinking the Kool-aid

Yeah, that's an opinion.

But its a false one. Critical Allciam and sales would argue that his/her premise is very false.

Yeah @Ideal. You really need to listen to Mr. C. Allciam. He knows what he's talking about.

What? BTW there is no way that you can say Microsoft is not all about quantity. That is all they are.

@Sony_70
Look at this dudes name. Does that not SCREAM troll? That was a trick question, it totally screams troll.

This is going to be the same situation the Wii had with 360 and PS3.Gameplay>Graphics,Tech Specs,etc.

I'm sorry but the things you describe don't need a console and if that is indeed the way gaming is going then home consoles are finished. I think augmented reality using eyewear linked to a portable device could well be where games end up going, but if so then I only need the portable device and the cloud for that. In any event I don't think we're there yet (and I'm not sure I'd want to participate in that kind of gaming). What you're describing sounds interesting, but it doesn't sound like killer app territory or anything that Nintendo cannot offer if they wanted to.

The Wii U could not do most of what I described anywhere near as efficiently as a console that taps into the Cloud.

Nintendo is simply not Cloud ready. User accounts are tied to hardware, Nintendo's servers seems to operate more slowly than any other server I've ever used (may or may not be an exaggeration, it takes twice as long to download the same amount on the Wii U as the PS3 though - I'm assuming load is the issue). There's no commercial partnerships with Cloud infrastructure providers.

Sony and Microsoft are both making it brutally clear that Cloud is their focus. Their next consoles may well spell the end for home consoles, but they will be Cloud-focused consoles.

The "cloud" by it's very nature isn't tied to hardware so it's a pretty weak point. As it has since the industry started, what will matter is the games and nothing much else. Nobody cares about cross platform play, cloud saves, GPS phone integration and the power of rooms full of supercomputers behind it. If all you have to play is peggle nobody will be interested in the shiny visuals or unique cloud services.

That was the point I was making? People are assuming that Sony and Microsoft will do nothing more than enhance hardware for their respective next consoles. I don't see any reason to believe that, not when the rhetoric from both Sony and Microsoft has been around features, not hardware power.

Nintendo doesn't get to have the monopoly on consoles that emphasise features more than power. I don't see why there's this hypocracy here. People also don't care about big whopping touch screens in the middle of their controllers, or motion controls for that matter - until you inspire them to care about it. Neither of those features were by nature "tied" to hardware either.

I'm sorry, but if 'hardcore gamers' called the Wii 'gimmicky' because the games utilized motion controls, how do you think they would feel about games that required them to walk around and visit real world locations to progress in them? Or take photos of things in real life and put them into the game? Hell, since the days of the N64 we were hearing how games would allow you to take your own face and map it into the game, and some have, yet no one gave a damn and it hasn't caught on at all. All those 'cloud' ideas just sound like a massive waste of time. 99.5% of console gamers just want to sit on a couch (or lay in bed), veg out, and play games on a controller.

"Hardcore" gamers are the most useless group of people, commercially speaking, so good riddance to them.

can I just say that anyone who calls themselves a hardcore gamer like it's worth bragging about is probably the biggest loser around?

That was kinda my point.

More generally speaking:

Hardcore gamers are the ones that complain about "high prices" for games the loudest, insist on buying second hand games, and loathe DLC with a passion. They buy so many games they feel entitled to have their games at the expense of the developer and publisher's profitability.

That's if they don't just pirate the games.

Hardcore gamers are the ones that try and ruin the commercial future of a game if it is, in any way, different to THEIR idea of what a game should be. See the Metacritic user rating for DMC - the hardcore gamers did that.

More casual game fans simply don't buy games (and consoles) they're not interested in, and are generally happy to buy the games when they see them - even if that means they pay properly for it. If they like a game, they're also the ones that don't have an irrational hated towards extending the gameplay by buying the DLC.

The "casuals" are the ones that actually benefit the games industry.

Indeed, I love taking cracks at the "hardcore gaming community" because in the end, they're all just a bunch of whiny brats who don't know what the f**k they want. As much as Michael Pachter irritates me with his "predictions" he's spot on about how the "hardcore gamer" just loves to whine when things don't go their way.

From what I've seen, they have little knowledge of business, zero appreciation for new ideas, highly prejudice, has insanely high standards, and loves to employ a double standard. It's pathetic and I refuse to be associated with such people.

On a side note, my posts keep on getting ignored T_T

I'm more of a hardcore-casual mix.I play TF2 a lot,but I enjoy Nintendo a lot.

Honestly most of that doesn't annoy me, at least the more reasonable and sane examples of most of that (complaining using logic instead of being whiny manchildren basically). Kinda like how the original ME3 ending deserved a lot of hatred and yet plenty of people still somehow overreacted. It's really the hypocrisy that angers me though. Well that and complaining about the same thing over and over again. Only thing worse than that would be if someone was still mad about the sales of 3rd party Wii games.

...wait

Wow, I didn't even think about most of this until now

Also, what's "DMC"?

Devil May Cry