NotFinite wrote:

shingi_70 wrote:

NotFinite wrote:

lz20XX wrote:

TrueWiiMaster wrote:

I kind of doubt the Wii U will use Blu-ray, if just because using it would mean paying their competition.

Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray

What's your point? They own part of it, so Nintendo will have to pay licensing fees in part to Sony.

Well Sony pays Microsoft to use windows. Other Computer OEM's pay Sony to use blueray, Its how consumer Electronics work man.

Are you responding to me?

NotFinite wrote:

• TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
• lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
• I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
• Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.

He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.

NotFinite wrote:

• TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
• lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
• I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
• Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.

He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.

NotFinite wrote:

• TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
• lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
• I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
• Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.

He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.

lz20XX wrote:

NotFinite wrote:

• TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
• lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
• I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
• Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.

He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.

Perhaps Google can solve your questions. Blu-ray is owned by the Blu-ray Association, which is a board of about 19 electronics companies including Sony. Therefore it is difficult to say that using Blu-ray is supporting the "competition"

lz20XX wrote:

Perhaps Google can solve your questions. Blu-ray is owned by the Blu-ray Association, which is a board of about 19 electronics companies including Sony. Therefore it is difficult to say that using Blu-ray is supporting the "competition"

NotFinite wrote:

^^ So you're saying that Sony would get some money if Nintendo chooses to pay licensing fees for Blu-Ray. Is that right?

SteveW wrote:

I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...

skywake wrote:

The whole "but Sony will make money" argument is hillarious. I mean really, so what if they do? Won't make any difference. They'll want to use the best and cheapest technology available regardless of who owns it.

SteveW wrote:

I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...

and higher resolution textures and models. Plus they want to be able to convince as many developers/publishers to consider the Wii U when they're doing cross platform games. They need to be above the PS3 and 360 in every spec possible and at the same time they need to be within throwing distance of the next generation Sony/MS consoles for that to happen.

And I'm fairly sympathetic to this idea, read my posts on the first page of this thread. I'd be pretty happy if they sacrificed cut-scenes, some of the uber-high res textures and paid a bit more money for awesome load times. Dump optical media, go back to cartridges....... but they won't. They're selling to developers and as wide an audience of gamers as possible. It's a shame, have you seen how awesomely fast 3DS games load compared to Wii/PS3/360 games?

SteveW wrote:

I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...

tendoboy1984 wrote:

skywake wrote:

The whole "but Sony will make money" argument is hillarious. I mean really, so what if they do? Won't make any difference. They'll want to use the best and cheapest technology available regardless of who owns it.

SteveW wrote:

I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...

and higher resolution textures and models. Plus they want to be able to convince as many developers/publishers to consider the Wii U when they're doing cross platform games. They need to be above the PS3 and 360 in every spec possible and at the same time they need to be within throwing distance of the next generation Sony/MS consoles for that to happen.

And I'm fairly sympathetic to this idea, read my posts on the first page of this thread. I'd be pretty happy if they sacrificed cut-scenes, some of the uber-high res textures and paid a bit more money for awesome load times. Dump optical media, go back to cartridges....... but they won't. They're selling to developers and as wide an audience of gamers as possible. It's a shame, have you seen how awesomely fast 3DS games load compared to Wii/PS3/360 games?

No. Don't go back to game cartridges. Use flash memory cards instead (like DS game cards, PS Vita game cards, SD cards, Memory Sticks, etc.).