TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.
He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.
TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.
He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.
I almost accidently read that discussion, thanks for the summary!
TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.
He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.
How Did I fail to answer the question. You said they don't want to pay the competition and I gave examples of How that happens to all the all the time in the Consumer electronics space.
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Why would Sony having a part ownership on Blu-Ray tech make any difference? They use DVD tech in the Wii and DVDs were developed by Sony... as were CDs and Nintendo wanting Sony's help with a CD based console in the '90s is part of the story behind the Playstation in the first place!
If anything it would be strange for Nintendo NOT to to base their console on Blu-Ray given it's the mass produced, high capacity media of the day. Much cheaper than going down any other route and who cares if Sony make a bit of money out of it.
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"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"
TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.
He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.
Perhaps Google can solve your questions. Blu-ray is owned by the Blu-ray Association, which is a board of about 19 electronics companies including Sony. Therefore it is difficult to say that using Blu-ray is supporting the "competition"
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TrueWii said Nintendo would have to pay Sony licensing fees in order to use Blu-Ray in the Wii U.
lz20XX then said, "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray," which seemed to imply that TrueWii's statement was false and that somehow some of Nintendo's money would not go to Sony because "Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray."
I asked what lz20XX's point was in commenting that Sony doesn't own all of Blu-ray. I mean, why mention that if it doesn't change anything in the discussion? Is he just shouting out random facts in reply to posts?
Then shingi_70 jumped in and <i>tried</i> to define lz20XX's point, but failed miserably in understanding the discussion and ended up just spouting another fact as if he were correcting someone.
He answered my question, but it was not an adequate answer.
Perhaps Google can solve your questions. Blu-ray is owned by the Blu-ray Association, which is a board of about 19 electronics companies including Sony. Therefore it is difficult to say that using Blu-ray is supporting the "competition"
Other examples of board members include Disney, Apple, and other such companies I believe
I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...
Perhaps Google can solve your questions. Blu-ray is owned by the Blu-ray Association, which is a board of about 19 electronics companies including Sony. Therefore it is difficult to say that using Blu-ray is supporting the "competition"
The same is true of DVD, to a lesser extent. So you're saying that Sony might not get any money at all if Nintendo buys a license to use Blu-Ray?
The whole "but Sony will make money" argument is hillarious. I mean really, so what if they do? Won't make any difference. They'll want to use the best and cheapest technology available regardless of who owns it.
I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...
and higher resolution textures and models. Plus they want to be able to convince as many developers/publishers to consider the Wii U when they're doing cross platform games. They need to be above the PS3 and 360 in every spec possible and at the same time they need to be within throwing distance of the next generation Sony/MS consoles for that to happen.
And I'm fairly sympathetic to this idea, read my posts on the first page of this thread. I'd be pretty happy if they sacrificed cut-scenes, some of the uber-high res textures and paid a bit more money for awesome load times. Dump optical media, go back to cartridges....... but they won't. They're selling to developers and as wide an audience of gamers as possible. It's a shame, have you seen how awesomely fast 3DS games load compared to Wii/PS3/360 games?
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"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"
Anyway. Iwata has already said, to paraphrase, that "adding Bluray would make the console more expensive, and we don't think it's worth the cost as many consumers already have devices to play that media in their home." Simple. The question has been answered already by the head man, and I tend to take it at face value. And I disagree with it! But I'm an enthusiast. I do think that piracy might be part of the concern as well, though using a non-standard format may have more perceived security than real. Simple Google search shows BR player licensing as of 2009 was $9.50 per box, by the way.
The whole "but Sony will make money" argument is hillarious. I mean really, so what if they do? Won't make any difference. They'll want to use the best and cheapest technology available regardless of who owns it.
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I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...
and higher resolution textures and models. Plus they want to be able to convince as many developers/publishers to consider the Wii U when they're doing cross platform games. They need to be above the PS3 and 360 in every spec possible and at the same time they need to be within throwing distance of the next generation Sony/MS consoles for that to happen.
And I'm fairly sympathetic to this idea, read my posts on the first page of this thread. I'd be pretty happy if they sacrificed cut-scenes, some of the uber-high res textures and paid a bit more money for awesome load times. Dump optical media, go back to cartridges....... but they won't. They're selling to developers and as wide an audience of gamers as possible. It's a shame, have you seen how awesomely fast 3DS games load compared to Wii/PS3/360 games?
No. Don't go back to game cartridges. Use flash memory cards instead (like DS game cards, PS Vita game cards, SD cards, Memory Sticks, etc.).
I've heard odds are since it's there, just and in another format still thrives HD-DVD variant CBHD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBHD could likely be used. The discs currently can store 30GB of data, they're faster than blu ray, sturdy, reliable, and increasing in popularity and use in China and other asian territories. It's a cheap license, they don't have to pay Sony a dime which we know they're not fond of doing due to their history, and it's stupid cheap to produce as they use existing DVD production lines to pump out the discs. This will be appealing to everyone because (I don't know true costs so I'm making this up here) if it let's say costs a company in mass production 50cents to make a DVD and $2 to do a blu-ray, which looks better to profit margins when both have large capacities and which one looks better when it has less shortcomings than blu-ray. BR has still a size advantage to a point, but it's not grossly wide.
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I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...
You've never played a game like Metal Gear Solid or Mass Effect, then. I see your point, but video games can be a great vessel for amazing stories. Amazing stories generally require cut scenes.
The whole "but Sony will make money" argument is hillarious. I mean really, so what if they do? Won't make any difference. They'll want to use the best and cheapest technology available regardless of who owns it.
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I'm not convinced we would need anything more than a DVD drive. Any space used over 9 gigs is just going to be used for cut scenes anyway and I'd rather play the game than watch a movie...
and higher resolution textures and models. Plus they want to be able to convince as many developers/publishers to consider the Wii U when they're doing cross platform games. They need to be above the PS3 and 360 in every spec possible and at the same time they need to be within throwing distance of the next generation Sony/MS consoles for that to happen.
And I'm fairly sympathetic to this idea, read my posts on the first page of this thread. I'd be pretty happy if they sacrificed cut-scenes, some of the uber-high res textures and paid a bit more money for awesome load times. Dump optical media, go back to cartridges....... but they won't. They're selling to developers and as wide an audience of gamers as possible. It's a shame, have you seen how awesomely fast 3DS games load compared to Wii/PS3/360 games?
No. Don't go back to game cartridges. Use flash memory cards instead (like DS game cards, PS Vita game cards, SD cards, Memory Sticks, etc.).
smh. You know how much that would cost/
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