Except that with those sample numbers Nintendo would put them out of the hardware biz; the competitors would take a huge loss on each unit they sold.
In that second case, assuming the competing systems lower their price by the same dollar amount as Nintendo, there is still the matter of personal income relative to the price of a luxury good. Those expensive systems while some what cheaper might still miss an audience.
Why is everyone calling for a price cut? The dang thing sold more than 3 million units in the first 3 months. That's pretty good in my opinion. Sure it's slow now, but so is every other dang system out there in their second month.
Let's wait until next year and THEN discuss this possibility
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Why is everyone calling for a price cut? The dang thing sold more than 3 million units in the first 3 months. That's pretty good in my opinion. Sure it's slow now, but so is every other dang system out there in their second month.
Let's wait until next year and THEN discuss this possibility
Besides the console not meeting Nintendo's goal, you're right. Even the current generation consoles are not selling rapidly (PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PS Vita and 3DS).
That's just how it is.
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Why is everyone calling for a price cut? The dang thing sold more than 3 million units in the first 3 months. That's pretty good in my opinion. Sure it's slow now, but so is every other dang system out there in their second month.
Let's wait until next year and THEN discuss this possibility
I see plenty of people speaking against a price cut too. In fact, who brought up the price cut this time? Ubisoft. At this point they're still doing damage control for the Rayman Incident, and pointing fingers is the easiest thing for them to do (whether or not Nintendo holds blame, that's a different conversation entirely).
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It was just astonishing that people thought the price was too high to begin with. People were asking for a price cut in December, and even arguing the price before launch. THAT is ridiculous.
It's a next gen console selling for the exact same price as last gen. You get the Gamepad, Wii BC and VC, better internet, games from last gen that crossed over to an extent with added content, and there's tons of good games on the way coming out throughout the year, with 2 being released this month that I myself am the most interested in.
The main argument is what's the difference from other devices from last gen. Wii U is essentially a checkpoint in the industry, and we need to move forward with it.
It was just astonishing that people thought the price was too high to begin with. People were asking for a price cut in December. THAT is ridiculous.
It's a next gen console selling for the exact same price as last gen. You get the Gamepad, Wii BC and VC, better internet, games from last gen that crossed over to an extent with added, and there's tons of good games on the way coming out throughout the year, with 2 being released this month that I myself am the most interested in.
The main argument is what's the difference from other devices from last gen. Wii U is essentially a checkpoint in the industry, and we need to move forward with it.
Nintendo has not innovated anything with the Wii U aside from the Gamepad.
Nintendo has built off of its competition six years later. Better late than never.
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I see plenty of people speaking against a price cut too. In fact, who brought up the price cut this time? Ubisoft. At this point they're still doing damage control for the Rayman Incident, and pointing fingers is the easiest thing for them to do (whether or not Nintendo holds blame, that's a different conversation entirely).
Damage control? I hardly consider this "damage control".
Also, I don't see any "finger-pointing" in the quote.
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It was just astonishing that people thought the price was too high to begin with. People were asking for a price cut in December. THAT is ridiculous.
It's a next gen console selling for the exact same price as last gen. You get the Gamepad, Wii BC and VC, better internet, games from last gen that crossed over to an extent with added, and there's tons of good games on the way coming out throughout the year, with 2 being released this month that I myself am the most interested in.
The main argument is what's the difference from other devices from last gen. Wii U is essentially a checkpoint in the industry, and we need to move forward with it.
Nintendo has not innovated anything with the Wii U aside from the Gamepad.
Nintendo has built off of its competition six years later. Better late than never.
Yes, but now is better than later. Nintendo is going to put maximum effort into standard tech and apply modern ideas and techniques as they come later in the generation. That is my speculation at least... 1080p, PCM 5.1, motion control, and touch screens are very standard at this point in time, and Nintendo knows that.
I see plenty of people speaking against a price cut too. In fact, who brought up the price cut this time? Ubisoft. At this point they're still doing damage control for the Rayman Incident, and pointing fingers is the easiest thing for them to do (whether or not Nintendo holds blame, that's a different conversation entirely).
Damage control? I hardly consider this "damage control".
Also, I don't see any "finger-pointing" in the quote.
Because this is what GOOD damage control looks like. Same with finger pointing, it's the reason WHY they're making this argument. Right now, more than a few Wii U owners are still peeved at Ubisoft, who still wants to sell their game to them in six months. Subliminally, they're basically saying, "We are only withdrawing our support until the system sells more." Do you honestly believe their opinions on the Wii U install base have no connection to their decision with Rayman?
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That is my speculation at least... 1080p, PCM 5.1, motion control, and touch screens are very standard at this point in time, and Nintendo knows that.
Motion controls are not a standard.
They kind of are. Phones, mp3 players, and tablets use motion sensors change the layout or control on screen.
In gaming, motion control plays a big part of people playing, at least from my perspective. My little brother likes playing Mario Kart and other games using the motion controls. He won't have it any other way at this point.
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They kind of are. Phones, mp3 players, and tablets use motion sensors change the layout or control on screen.
In gaming, motion control plays a big part of people playing, at least from my perspective. My little brother likes playing Mario Kart and other games using the motion controls. He won't have it any other way at this point.
It's important to you and your little brother, so that makes it a standard in gaming.
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I see plenty of people speaking against a price cut too. In fact, who brought up the price cut this time? Ubisoft. At this point they're still doing damage control for the Rayman Incident, and pointing fingers is the easiest thing for them to do (whether or not Nintendo holds blame, that's a different conversation entirely).
Damage control? I hardly consider this "damage control".
Also, I don't see any "finger-pointing" in the quote.
It's damage control. I don't see how you could say what Ubisoft is currently doing isn't.
And yes, Ubisoft did point the finger. Several people in this thread have stated Nintendo just needs a big game to make consumers interested. Their game could have been it.
Ubisoft's statement definitely isn't the first time I heard someone suggest a price cut, but I just don't think they're in a position to suggest such a thing considering what happened.
They kind of are. Phones, mp3 players, and tablets use motion sensors change the layout or control on screen.
In gaming, motion control plays a big part of people playing, at least from my perspective. My little brother likes playing Mario Kart and other games using the motion controls. He won't have it any other way at this point.
It's important to you and your little brother, so that makes it a standard in gaming.
K.
Motion controls are a big part of Mobile gaming. Also the Playstation Move as well as the Xbox Kinect show that people are interested in motion controls. It may not be "standard" as in every game should have it but it is "standard" as in people expect it now.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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They kind of are. Phones, mp3 players, and tablets use motion sensors change the layout or control on screen.
In gaming, motion control plays a big part of people playing, at least from my perspective. My little brother likes playing Mario Kart and other games using the motion controls. He won't have it any other way at this point.
It's important to you and your little brother, so that makes it a standard in gaming.
K.
Motion controls are a big part of Mobile gaming. Also the Playstation Move as well as the Xbox Kinect show that people are interested in motion controls. It may not be "standard" as in every game should have it but it is "standard" as in people expect it now.
It's not expected by those audiences. It's an overlooked option to playing a select number of games and mainly appeals to casuals.
Not expected, not standard.
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They kind of are. Phones, mp3 players, and tablets use motion sensors change the layout or control on screen.
In gaming, motion control plays a big part of people playing, at least from my perspective. My little brother likes playing Mario Kart and other games using the motion controls. He won't have it any other way at this point.
It's important to you and your little brother, so that makes it a standard in gaming.
K.
Motion controls are a big part of Mobile gaming. Also the Playstation Move as well as the Xbox Kinect show that people are interested in motion controls. It may not be "standard" as in every game should have it but it is "standard" as in people expect it now.
It's not expected by those audiences. It's an overlooked option to playing a select number of games and mainly appeals to casuals.
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They kind of are. Phones, mp3 players, and tablets use motion sensors change the layout or control on screen.
In gaming, motion control plays a big part of people playing, at least from my perspective. My little brother likes playing Mario Kart and other games using the motion controls. He won't have it any other way at this point.
It's important to you and your little brother, so that makes it a standard in gaming.
K.
Motion controls are a big part of Mobile gaming. Also the Playstation Move as well as the Xbox Kinect show that people are interested in motion controls. It may not be "standard" as in every game should have it but it is "standard" as in people expect it now.
It's not expected by those audiences. It's an overlooked option to playing a select number of games and mainly appeals to casuals.
Not expected, not standard.
There is a group of casual and hardcore that do expect motion controls. Yes motion controls, imo, appeal to casual gamers and there are those casual gamers that expect things to have motion controls, mostly due to not being knowledgeable about the product. So to say motion controls are not expected is just wrong, not expected by the majority would be correct. Does it make it less of a standard I don't think so.
People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...
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I guess a better way to word motion controls, is that it is an excepted medium for alot of things. Alot of devices rely on motion control for their games. Developers would have to be fools not to add it into their games when it's as easy as pressing a button now adays.
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