Agreed the marketing was apparently a bit pants. I don't watch TV, so I wouldn't know from that, but a colleague who does said the only thing he took away from the add was that it was an HD Wii and you could play games with the Gamepad screen instead of the TV. Consequently he couldn't see what the fuss was about.

I was pretty surprised not to see any Wii U ads in the cinema, which in the UK is choked with often a ten-minute reel of expanded TV adverts before film trailers (not kidding when I say it can easily be thirty minutes before the feature starts). I'm sure if the Wii U ends up like GameCube 2 in terms of sales and third-party support it could be the last console from Nintendo, but I'm not going to worry about that - it will still have great games.

Same old doom, and gloom.

http://www.1up.com/news/gabe-newell-ps3-total-disaster

http://www.1up.com/news/activision-threatens-stop-supporting-...

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2007/07/sonys-lost-excl/

Not really. I've come to grips that the Wii U won't get the support of Major AAA publishers as much as the the other systems will which is why I'm probably going to pick up a 720. I plan to get a Wii U for Nintendo and Eshop games and in hopes that it becomes the dominant console for Japanese developers. (Not sure if this will happen)

I'm not worried about the WiiU at all, but i'm worried about the fact that some big names (sony/microsoft) might be throwing a lot of money at various places to have them help defame the WiiU.

All this bad news and barely any good news all over the internet makes me think this, when what it all really should be about is the great titles that are almost out like monster hunter, smash bros, mario party, mario kart... the list goes on and on and onnnnn..

Something very fishy is going on with the WiiU reporting.

No!

I'm not worried unless we're asking about the exact same issues after this year's E3.

Dude, guys, yo. Get off the boat. We're going down.

I can safely say, calling upon the power of internet forums, hearsay, sensationalist news articles, and 12 WHOLE WEEKS of this new console, that we are utterly doomed. I hear that Nintendo has already stealth patched our Wii Us to self-detonate relatively soon, and at that same fateful moment Nintendo is going to close up their corporate offices for good, remove themselves from the stock exchange, and Iwata is going to live out the rest of his life as a hermit on some mountain top.

I mean... come on, guys. Looking back at every console ever, it's not like they get better with time. I mean, seriously. It's like leftover seafood. If it's not good day 1, it definitely won't be good on day 3. When consoles are released, the first three months pretty much dictate exactly how they are going to perform for the rest of their life cycles.

let's face it guys, Nintendo is ruined forever!

This is it for Nintendo. THE END

We can only hope the Wii U has the lineup of software the gamecube had when it is all said and done.

3rd party games in general sell poorly on Nintendo consoles compared to the other's. Conduit, Conduit 2, Deadspace Extractions, Madworld (love this game), Zak and Wiki, de blob, de blob 2, No More Heroes, 2, etc. The gamecube was the same way but you know it was more powerful than PS2 and close to Xbox in terms of shear power but GCN players passed on games like Killer 7, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil series. So in reality I suppose nintendo console owners are partly to blame for the lack of third party support.

I miss that generation, when consoles had a relatively good amount of both exclusives and multi-console titles. Instead of basically my entire 360 collection being a reminder I could have gotten a PS3 and my entire Wii collection being exclusives outside of ports from previous console generations.

You think people are getting paid to defame the Wii U, as opposed the Wii U not being what the indiuatry wanted and people just telling what they actually feel.

So its all a conspiracy, I knew it all along

I definitely don't think Microsoft and Sony are "throwing money" at the games journalists to "defame" the Wii U, but I do think anybody who doesn't see an obvious bias against the Wii U in many main stream articles has their eyes and ears covered. And I ask you again, @Sony_70, as you never seem up to responding to my posts directed at you, what exactly does the "industry [want]"? Should Nintendo have simply immersed themselves in the endless back-and-forth of technical specs, flexing their epeen alongside Microsoft and Sony when it comes to processing power (that is still worse than a moderate gaming PC build)? Does the "industry [want]" just another box that plays the same exact games as the others, with maybe 1 or 2 exclusives that have you shooting aliens in a slightly different way than the other company's glorified Netflix box?

Wii U isnt doomed, The PS Vita isnt doing well at all, but its still being sold, still being developed for, and all that

wii u is trash no need to worry...

Other than the fact that I wasn't born during that console age, I would say this.

a little worried

Also by the time e3 comes around we will believe the Wii U will be the greatest thing ever

I'm actually rather iffy on whether or not this Wii U will survive because ever since the GameCube (Don't ask me why in the world anyone thinks it started in the days of N64 because I swear that system was selling games like hotcakes.) I've just honestly haven't found many interesting games to hold me over without looking like collector's items on y shelves,, most Nintendo titles. The same holds true for my handhelds since the DS. Yet somehow, so far, because it doesn't really require a lot of heavy exploration and thinking the only 2 platformer games I've found I can actually play and put in full completetion for has been Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2. (Sunshine I was iffy about partially behalf of Luigi's Mansion for GameCube, but then again I pretty much grew up in the golden retro era when it was just beginning)

So my only other real concern here is because I'm still not used to playing anything with a stylus is where the core gameplay is going to be focused on. A lot of hardcore gamers just are for the touchscreen; I'm indifferent here as i feel it's ana cceptable form of gameplay. I'll be honest, it'd been a long time for me since I needed to accept when the retro SNES era was done until I moved ontoa PlayStation, by then PlayStation 2 was just around the corner within a year or 2. Then of course when XBox was out, I was iffy at 1st but the 1st days online was going through beta were the happiest days of my life.

So now onward with the Wii U, even Sony and Microsoft's next gen cnsoles, we'll just have to wait see what they produce next because well, i was never honestly true sure why Nintendo chose to reproduce/add their already existing gameplay focus with the Wii U, that being touchscreen. Guess it'll all depend how well they balance it out with the Wii controls and dual screen aspect they introduced us to with the DS.

Well, at the time the N64 launched it looked totally backwards compared to the Playstation and the Dreamcast: expensive, cartridge-based media, 3D focus at a time when 3D games largely looked like primitive military training simulators. The Playstation was just awesome; especially if you were a fan of 2D sprite-based games.

I for one don't think there's anything fishy about the stories we're seeing, I just think the Ubisoft news has served as an unfortunate catalyst so other folk feel the need to chime in with their views on the platform and they're all 3rd parties who are anxious about the state of the medium and don't see the Wii U as saving their collective backsides. I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more major publishers hit the wall and another round of consolidation in the industry. I think Tecmo-Koei would make a really nice acquisition for Nintendo myself!