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Topic: If you could change one thing about the Wii U what would it be?

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Zizzy

I'd prefer better social aspects/friend interaction. The Miiverse is wasted effort, IMO. I'd prefer a friend experience similar to the Xbox 360.

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skywake

iKhan wrote:

Graphics are something that is super easy to convey to an audience at first glance. If a game looks visually impressive, the system looks more "new". Graphics aren't the only thing that does this, but they are one of them.

I think for the average consumer graphics are more about marketing than actual improvements in visuals. Not saying that there's not a difference between the various options or that the jump in fidelity isn't worth it. Just saying that if people hear that a console is powerful? They'll believe it and that'll be all that matters. Also unless you have an identical game and are running the same scene side by side? It's pretty hard to tell.

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CaPPa

For the launch I'd have changed the name, even just being the Nintendo U would have better (adverts could have been "it used to be about 'Wii' but now it's about 'U'"). Instead it suffered the same problems that the 3DS had, with people thinking it was just a new model of what they already had.

The battery life was an issue for me at first, but I changed that myself with the extended battery and now get around 7 or 8 hours game time. It's a great system, if Arkham Knight was on the Wii U I probably wouldn't even need a second system.

CaPPa

SCRAPPER392

CaPPa wrote:

For the launch I'd have changed the name, even just being the Nintendo U would have better (adverts could have been "it used to be about 'Wii' but now it's about 'U'"). Instead it suffered the same problems that the 3DS had, with people thinking it was just a new model of what they already had.

Ya, well, it works for Apple to rake in millions of iPhone buyers every year, so how does that work, then? Those devices are even more similar to each other than Wii is to Wii U, also.

The name isn't the problem, because we already have immediate examples of other devices doing well, while also having mainly the same name. Like I said, Nintendo probably just doesn't want to advertise, otherwise they would. DUH.

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Qwest

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unrandomsam

SCAR392 wrote:

CaPPa wrote:

For the launch I'd have changed the name, even just being the Nintendo U would have better (adverts could have been "it used to be about 'Wii' but now it's about 'U'"). Instead it suffered the same problems that the 3DS had, with people thinking it was just a new model of what they already had.

Ya, well, it works for Apple to rake in millions of iPhone buyers every year, so how does that work, then? Those devices are even more similar to each other than Wii is to Wii U, also.

The name isn't the problem, because we already have immediate examples of other devices doing well, while also having mainly the same name. Like I said, Nintendo probably just doesn't want to advertise, otherwise they would. DUH.

Apple has somehow become a fashion accessory. (I don't quite understand that I always thought the whole point was to show much of your or somebody elses money you can waste on worthless rubbish and Apple is nowhere near expensive enough for that purpose but people do treat it sort of the same)

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Smash_kirby

4GB of ram, 3 for the system and the normal 1 for the OS.

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SCRAPPER392

Smash_kirby wrote:

4GB of ram, 3 for the system and the normal 1 for the OS.

Except that that wouldn't really make sense, at least with its other current components. By the time 4GB of RAM would make sense in Wii U, the console would end up costing like $600, because the GPU and CPU would also need to have more components within themselves for that much RAM to make sense.

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brooks83

SCAR392 wrote:

CaPPa wrote:

For the launch I'd have changed the name, even just being the Nintendo U would have better (adverts could have been "it used to be about 'Wii' but now it's about 'U'"). Instead it suffered the same problems that the 3DS had, with people thinking it was just a new model of what they already had.

Ya, well, it works for Apple to rake in millions of iPhone buyers every year, so how does that work, then? Those devices are even more similar to each other than Wii is to Wii U, also.

The name isn't the problem, because we already have immediate examples of other devices doing well, while also having mainly the same name. Like I said, Nintendo probably just doesn't want to advertise, otherwise they would. DUH.

No, Apple does it right with the iPhone. They number them, so when someone with an iPhone 5 hears about an iPhone 6, they know it's an upgraded model. Had Nintendo called it the Wii 2, there would have been much less confusion.

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AlexSays

Apple also releases their products on a routine schedule. Even potato farmers in Idaho know the new Iphone comes out every fall.

Just in case they didn't, Apple airs a commercial every ten minutes telling them about it. I don't see why it's so hard to admit that the Wii U name is at least a little bit confusing to some people. It's not an issue of opinions, some people were legitimately confused about the name.

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SCRAPPER392

brooks83 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

CaPPa wrote:

For the launch I'd have changed the name, even just being the Nintendo U would have better (adverts could have been "it used to be about 'Wii' but now it's about 'U'"). Instead it suffered the same problems that the 3DS had, with people thinking it was just a new model of what they already had.

Ya, well, it works for Apple to rake in millions of iPhone buyers every year, so how does that work, then? Those devices are even more similar to each other than Wii is to Wii U, also.

The name isn't the problem, because we already have immediate examples of other devices doing well, while also having mainly the same name. Like I said, Nintendo probably just doesn't want to advertise, otherwise they would. DUH.

No, Apple does it right with the iPhone. They number them, so when someone with an iPhone 5 hears about an iPhone 6, they know it's an upgraded model. Had Nintendo called it the Wii 2, there would have been much less confusion.

What about the "S" that they put after the number in names like iPhone 4S? S is just as much of a letter as U.

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skywake

I still think people carry on about the name way too much. Though in defence of that argument here the difference between a phone and a console is that people don't approach purchasing them in the same way. A console is a once in a blue moon luxury item style purchase which is motivated purely by content. A mobile is an essential device that everyone has to have where people simply walk into the shops when they "need a new one" and ask for the newest or the one that's within their budget. So while I think the "zomg name" argument about the Wii U is BS and I do agree that phone names are a lot more confusing the name definitely matters more for a console than it does with a phone.

I'll also repeat that I think "3DS" and especially "New 3DS" is way more confusing than "Wii U".

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SCRAPPER392

I don't think the names are confusing. Apple puts S after the number of iPhone, so U is fine after the Wii name. People can think any of the names are stupid, but it's still subjective. I think "New" in the New 3DS is pretty easy to understand. I honestly don't know how much clearer of a name they could of had for that. It's just as confusing as DSi, if not less, and the older 3DS models will probably be phased out similarly to DS phat, so it's not like there will be a difference between names if there is only one device, anyway.

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skywake

Oh and just to reinforce that "performance is marketing more than anything". Here's a good example of it:

Smash_kirby wrote:

4GB of ram, 3 for the system and the normal 1 for the OS.

People have no idea what they're talking about. Some people even think that the amount of storage a device has is indicative of the performance. If we're going to really dig deeply into the reasons why the Wii U hasn't done particularly well? Maybe some of it has to do with the fact that people see "32GB" on the box next to "320GB" PS3s and "500GB" PS4s and think "wow, this Wii U is a tenth as powerful as the PS3!" It's ridiculious and I don't understand how people could think that, but I know I'm an outlier here and maybe people do think that.

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DefHalan

If you think the name is the problem with the Wii U then think about your name. Does your name define you or do you define your name. If the advertising was better then the name Wii U would have been defined better. Having a different name wouldn't have done anything without that name being defined differently than the Wii U has been.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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skywake

SCAR392 wrote:

I don't think the names are confusing. Apple puts S after the number of iPhone, so U is fine after the Wii name. People can think any of the names are stupid, but it's still subjective. I think "New" in the New 3DS is pretty easy to understand. I honestly don't know how much clearer of a name they could of had for that. It's just as confusing as DSi, if not less, and the older 3DS models will probably be phased out similarly to DS phat, so it's not like there will be a difference between names if there is only one device, anyway.

It's out here in Australia so I see the ads for the New 3DS where its sitting next to the 3DS XL and 2DS. It is confusing, how are you supposed to explain that to a layman? I don't even know whether or not I should get a New 3DS and I'm a techie who frequents a Nintendo forum. How is the average punter supposed to work it out?

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AlexSays

@Scar: Of course you don't think the name is confusing. We didn't doubt your attention to detail.

Instead people are saying that the name was confusing to some people, which is not debatable. There are articles of media outlets reporting the Wii U as an extension of the Wii.

Nobody knows the extent of the confusion, but it was present. Not every single person passing by the Wii U in the store realized it was the successor to the Wii. You're applying your own personal circumstances to the general public as if its representative, when it's not.. at all.

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SCRAPPER392

skywake wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

I don't think the names are confusing. Apple puts S after the number of iPhone, so U is fine after the Wii name. People can think any of the names are stupid, but it's still subjective. I think "New" in the New 3DS is pretty easy to understand. I honestly don't know how much clearer of a name they could of had for that. It's just as confusing as DSi, if not less, and the older 3DS models will probably be phased out similarly to DS phat, so it's not like there will be a difference between names if there is only one device, anyway.

It's out here in Australia so I see the ads for the New 3DS where its sitting next to the 3DS XL and 2DS. It is confusing, how are you supposed to explain that to a layman? I don't even know whether or not I should get a New 3DS and I'm a techie who frequents a Nintendo forum. How is the average punter supposed to work it out?

I agree with you, for the time being, but I see 2DS continuing to be a thing, then the 3DS and 3DS XL eventually being phased out, and only reason why I would think 2DS will stay around, is because it came out not too long ago, so it will still be the cheap alternative.

I would want a New 3DS XL, but I feel like I just got my XL not too long ago, and I got it on launch.

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AlexSays

DefHalan wrote:

If you think the name is the problem with the Wii U then think about your name. Does your name define you or do you define your name. If the advertising was better then the name Wii U would have been defined better. Having a different name wouldn't have done anything without that name being defined differently than the Wii U has been.

Surely you see how the names of people are quite a bit different than products being sold in stores.

AlexSays

SCRAPPER392

AlexSays wrote:

@Scar: Of course you don't think the name is confusing. We didn't doubt your attention to detail.

Instead people are saying that the name was confusing to some people, which is not debatable. There are articles of media outlets reporting the Wii U as an extension of the Wii.

Nobody knows the extent of the confusion, but it was present. Not every single person passing by the Wii U in the store realized it was the successor to the Wii. You're applying your own personal circumstances to the general public as if its representative, when it's not.. at all.

I understand. I'm confused why people are confused, but I don't think it will matter in the long run, because better and more graphical software will come out, along with the fact that Wii won't be a thing anymore, at the store. Wii will disappear, and Wii U will be all that's left.

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DefHalan

AlexSays wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

If you think the name is the problem with the Wii U then think about your name. Does your name define you or do you define your name. If the advertising was better then the name Wii U would have been defined better. Having a different name wouldn't have done anything without that name being defined differently than the Wii U has been.

Surely you see how the names of people are quite a bit different than products being sold in stores.

Yes, but this is what we call an analogy. The way your actions represent you, and in a way your name, is the way a product's actions and advertisements represents its name

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People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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