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gaming_24_7

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Hello,

I have a HDMI to VGA Converter which works perfectly with my PC. However, it doesn't work with WiiU and my Eizo-Monitor. How to deal with this problem? I don't get any picture and any sound, because the Converter has got an audio out in addition. I tried every resolution in the WiiU-menu. Does anybody know this problem?

Edit: By the way, the WiiU and monitor will work together if I use a HDMI->DVI-cable. Unfortunately, there is no way to get sound with this combination.
Summing up: WiiU and Monitor run with DVI;
HDMI-VGA-Converter runs with PC;
WiiU with Converter doesn't work!

I'm very confused about it. Can anybody help me?

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SCAR392

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The Wii U is HDMI only for the most part. The Wii U doesn't put out surround sound through optical converters, or component.
The PCM 5.1 has too big of a bandwidth to go through any other cable, and that's why it's all in one or nothing.
I know this might not sound like much help, but a HDTV is probably your best option.
There's no official conversion or splitting cable that Nintendo makes or approves of, so you're on your own until they say otherwise.

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gaming_24_7

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Thank you very much for your answer.

It's a pity the WiiU doesn't support both output at the same time. Everybody tells me PS360 do that.
I'm still hoping Nintendo will update this feature in the next system update, because I guess it's no big deal.

Well is there really no way to separate the audio signal from the complete HDMI-signal? I thought the VGA solution would be foolproof because I have a analog signal in the end.

Thanks again for helping.

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shinesprite

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What's stopping you from using an HDMI to DVI adapter (for your monitor), and the left and right audio channels from a multi-AV out cable (I know it won't be the very best quality, but it's better than nothing)? ;)

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SCAR392

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Xbox 360 still supports VGA through a converter made by Microsoft. If Nintendo makes a converter of any sort, it will be like that, but there is no current cable all-in-one better than HDMI, so Nintendo uses it. Perhaps if you have/buy an A/V reciever, you can have all your devices go to the A/V reciever for sound through HDMI in, than have the HDMI to VGA go out to your monitor.
This would be cheaper than buying a new TV if it comes down to that.

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Look into a Sony STR-DH520,830,1030, or 720 with HDMI pass through. You will be able to plug in all of your devices to the reciever regardless of it's input, get surround sound or whayever your device supports, then send it out of the HDMI out using the HDMI to VGA cable converter to your monitor. I'm guessing your monitor has better resonlution than an HDTV, and is your main screen. It would be more effective to buy an A/V reciever than another TV.

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shinesprite wrote:

What's stopping you from using an HDMI to DVI adapter (for your monitor), and the left and right audio channels from a multi-AV out cable (I know it won't be the very best quality, but it's better than nothing)? ;)

Because it doesn't work. The WiiU supports only one output at once :(

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Look into a Sony STR-DH520,830,1030, or 720 with HDMI pass through. You will be able to plug in all of your devices to the reciever regardless of it's input, get surround sound or whayever your device supports, then send it out of the HDMI out using the HDMI to VGA cable converter to your monitor. I'm guessing your monitor has better resonlution than an HDTV, and is your main screen. It would be more effective to buy an A/V reciever than another TV.

That would work. In this case I could use the DVI-Adpater and don't need the VGA-converter at all. I just thougt there would be a simple solution for the problem. Thank you very much.

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gaming_24_7 wrote:

shinesprite wrote:

What's stopping you from using an HDMI to DVI adapter (for your monitor), and the left and right audio channels from a multi-AV out cable (I know it won't be the very best quality, but it's better than nothing)? ;)

Because it doesn't work. The WiiU supports only one output at once :(

He means an HDMI to VGA/RCA audio converter. I've heard that works, as well as optical out. You just won't get surround sound. What audio out signal does the converter cable have?

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At the moment I would be very pleased if I heard any sound at all. But I just need stereo.

The converter has got a simple female phone connector (if that's the correct English word).

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SCAR392

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Ya, that definitely won't work. If all you need is stereo, the red and white, or optical cable is what you're looking for. The headphone jack can't even handle Wii U's stereo.

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Okay. So that explains the sound problem. But why don't I see a picture whereas other devices work with the converter?

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SCAR392

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Probably a combination of both signals. All you need is a HDMI to VGA/RCA cable splitter, and you will be able to get video and sound. I'm not really an expert, I just know what works and what doesn't. An explanation would include the properties of the cable.

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gaming_24_7

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Thank you again for your help. A new TV or a A/V receiver are too expensive if I just need them for playing WiiU in HD. It's a shame.

Maybe the next update will sort out the problem. I hope so.

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gaming_24_7

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Hello again,

If I bought a Component cable and a component-to-vga-adapter, would it be possible to play in 1080p?
I'm thinking about a converter like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro%C2%AE-AV-Pro-RGB-VGA-Converter...

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shinesprite

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@gaming_24_7 I think the max resolution is 1080i/720p depending on your preference.

As for your choice, I have one of these converters for my retro consoles (with a splitter).

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Isn't component/VGA limmited to 1080i only? I've heard that when you send an HDTV an inerlaced signal that it may introduce more input lag since it has to deinterlace or something, but it's very small. I don't bother with HDMI/1080p because it adds an extra frame/16ms of lag(which adds up to 2 frames) on my HDTV, so i stick with component/720p which gives me only 1 frame.

Nintendo needs to do an update where you can use these cables for different purposes. In my case, Component soley for picture, and HDMI for sound. B-)

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shinesprite

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@WaveBoy Really, I notice more lag when my TV is up-scaling an image to 1080p.

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@Shinesprite
Using HDMI? Usually HDTV's deliver less lag via component. Ugh, i hate input lag....it completely puts me off from gaming. when i press a button i want mario to jump on the DIME. 1 frame/16ms is the best you can get on a plasma for ex, but those sets are very hard to come by.I've got one. I did my research, and finally tracked one down. And as great as it is, it still pisses me off that i'm sacrificing button response among other things conerning the picture quality in order to get a Large HD screen. I did a recent comparison up against my lag free CRT tube SDTV, and motion control based titles yielded a noticable difference to the point of being more intuitive and fun, metroid prime 3 being the best example...Just having that extra precision and superior movement made all the difference. Traditionally controlled titles like Klonoa, Mega Man 9, NSMB.Wii and the like were more on the
minimal side.

Bah, i already miss my 32" CRT SDTV. that thing was a beaut', Perfect Black levels, perfect motion, great brightness, wide color gamut, no auto dimming or image retention and zero input lag. But, there's no way i'm missing out on the Wii U's 720p, Widescreen and playing Wii U games on the big screen. So I guess I'll just have to deal! :p

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SCAR392

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gaming_24_7 wrote:

Hello again,

If I bought a Component cable and a component-to-vga-adapter, would it be possible to play in 1080p?
I'm thinking about a converter like this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ex-Pro%C2%AE-AV-Pro-RGB-VGA-Converter...

That should work. HDMI is harder to convert than analog inputs I think, because it has to split the signals vs. them already being split in cord form. The audio will still not work though, I'm pretty sure of that. It's worth a try, but I saw people on Miiverse trying to get surround sound from a HDMI audio extractor cable that converts to optical out, and it doesn't work for anything above PCM 2.1. The non compressed lossless audio just can't be input through optical.

EDIT: Actually nevermind, I was thinking your monitor doesn't have speakers, so ya, it should work. I've seen 1080p video through component, so no worries there. @Waveboy is just saying there's more lag at that resolution compared to 1080i.

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WaveBoy wrote:

Isn't component/VGA limmited to 1080i only? I've heard that when you send an HDTV an inerlaced signal that it may introduce more input lag since it has to deinterlace or something, but it's very small. I don't bother with HDMI/1080p because it adds an extra frame/16ms of lag(which adds up to 2 frames) on my HDTV, so i stick with component/720p which gives me only 1 frame.

Nintendo needs to do an update where you can use these cables for different purposes. In my case, Component soley for picture, and HDMI for sound. B-)

Do you find the component cable works well with your Wii U? I was planning to use my official Wii component cable with my Wii U, but I found the screen tends to waver around a fairly noticeable amount, whereas the image is steady with the HDMI cable, so I've wound up using that. The image doesn't waver at all when I use that same component cable with my Wii, so I'm pretty sure it's not the cable causing it. Just wondering if that is normal with the component upscaling on the Wii U or if there might be something wrong with the non-HDMI output on my Wii U.

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