Forums

Topic: Far cry 4 is not coming to Wii u (among other games)

Posts 61 to 80 of 126

CheapCheepBeach

SCAR392 wrote:

The industry situation has changed, but there are plenty of similarities between Wii U and PS2. The only real difference was that Dreamcast was commercial suicide, which benefited PS2. Technologically, online, and price wise, Wii U is this gen PS2, sales aside. The Wii U has more games than PS4 and Xbox One, too, so...

Not really, PS2 was a least a leap from N64. Unlike being identical to last gen like Wii U....

CheapCheepBeach

Nintendo Network ID: memoryman3 | Twitter:

Hy8ogen

memoryman3 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

The industry situation has changed, but there are plenty of similarities between Wii U and PS2. The only real difference was that Dreamcast was commercial suicide, which benefited PS2. Technologically, online, and price wise, Wii U is this gen PS2, sales aside. The Wii U has more games than PS4 and Xbox One, too, so...

Not really, PS2 was a least a leap from N64. Unlike being identical to last gen like Wii U....

You gotta stop smoking what you're smoking bro. I can smell your brain melting from here.

Nintendo fan since 6 years of age.
Owned: SNES, Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, DS, 3DS, Wii U, PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 and PSP3000.

3DS Friend Code: 5472-8085-9073 | Nintendo Network ID: kkloveit

shingi_70

Hy8ogen wrote:

memoryman3 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

The industry situation has changed, but there are plenty of similarities between Wii U and PS2. The only real difference was that Dreamcast was commercial suicide, which benefited PS2. Technologically, online, and price wise, Wii U is this gen PS2, sales aside. The Wii U has more games than PS4 and Xbox One, too, so...

Not really, PS2 was a least a leap from N64. Unlike being identical to last gen like Wii U....

You gotta stop smoking what you're smoking bro. I can smell your brain melting from here.

What's he smoking. I mean the Wii U from a power standpoint is stronger than the 360/PS3 but is in some weird middle ground.

Also Third party support isn't coming back to the system no matter how much you guys may want it too. The PS4/XBO got Assissan's Creed Unity and PS3/360 are getting their own game and neither one is coming to the Wii U. Even on the digital side out of the announced digital games from ubi the Wii U only got one of them. (Child of Light)

Also saying these games don't sell well on Nintendo consoles are BS to the highest degree. They may not anymore but that's mostly nintendo's own doing for not cultvating the market. Both the N64 and cube had ample amount of these games usually coming from nintendo's western first party. If you want to blame anyone blame Iwata for systematically dismantling all of Nintendo's western developer output to only Retro and the rest working on pretty safe franchises that don't do anything for nintendo.

WAT!

Hey check out my awesome new youtube channel shingi70 where I update weekly on the latest gaming and comic news form a level headed perspective.

3DS Friend Code: 3093-7342-3454 | Nintendo Network ID: shingi70

MrV4ltor

Not really a surprise, since Ubisoft is pulling all support after Watch_Dogs is released. Trials: Fusion, The Crew, The Divison, Assassins Creed Unity, Assassins Creed Comet, Valiant Hearts. All of those aren't on Wii U. The only Ubisoft game we can expect is Just Dance 2015 or whatever it'll be called. Far Cry 4 was excpected, since the 3rd one wasn't even on the system. Assassins Creed on the other hand ...

MrV4ltor

Nintendo Network ID: MrValtor | Twitter:

mipaol

MrV4ltor wrote:

Not really a surprise, since Ubisoft is pulling all support after Watch_Dogs is released. Trials: Fusion, The Crew, The Divison, Assassins Creed Unity, Assassins Creed Comet, Valiant Hearts. All of those aren't on Wii U. The only Ubisoft game we can expect is Just Dance 2015 or whatever it'll be called. Far Cry 4 was excpected, since the 3rd one wasn't even on the system. Assassins Creed on the other hand ...

Do you have a source to back up your claim that Ubisoft is pulling support for the Wii U after Watch Dogs? A link to something perhaps where a representative of Ubisoft specifically says they will not be supporting the Wii U in the future?

Just because they aren't bringing certain games to the console does not imply they plan to cease supporting the platform, especially considering how well Child of Light is selling on the Wii U. To be honest of the games you listed the only one I would have considered buying is Trials: Fusion, most of the others just look like the same old gratuitous violence BS I got bored of ages ago. If that's the bulk of what Ubisoft has to offer is their diminished support of the Wii U really such a loss, unless you're still into that sort of thing I guess, in which case their are two other consoles literally designed for those sort of games so even then why care if they don't come to the Wii U?

Granted it results in fewer console sales and a smaller user base, but one of the things I like about Nintendo consoles is that they aren't bogged down with piles of the sorts of shooter and action games common on the Sony and Microsoft platforms, to me Nintendo systems are a bit of a haven from the types of games that frankly I consider only fit for moronic dudebros and those that lack the maturity to see that this world is filled with enough violence as it is, why should our entertainment be dominated by it as well? If that's the sort of thing someone is still into so be it, they have two consoles catering to them, I'm just glad their is at least one that doesn't, because that one caters to me and others who share similar values when it comes to media consumption.

Edited on by mipaol

"Video games are bad for you? That's what they said about rock-n-roll." - Shigeru Miyamoto

Nintendo Network ID: mipaol

Captain_Toad

Just don't cancel watch dogs on the WiiU and I'll accept your decision ubisoft.

Edited on by Captain_Toad

Was Mariobro4. No, I'm not taking off my backpack...it's important.

Switch Friend Code: SW-1530-1570-5053 | 3DS Friend Code: 3566-2311-3009 | Nintendo Network ID: Mariobro4

shingi_70

@mipaol

I disagree with you. Being rated M usually has to do with a games content and not how mature the story telling its self. In that closed thread you mentioend far cry 4, well a thing about the Far cry series post 3 is that it takes a more humurous take on its big bads, making them uber unlikeable as sort of the point.

yes ebcuae Valint Hearts looks like the same tired dreck.

Untitled

It is on a 2D plane so you may be right.

For all your talk of how the Wii U is a haven that hasn't stopped the other systems from not only having Mature "Dudebro content" but also colorful games similar to what you get on the wii U, artsy indie games, and games with a focus on narrative as well.

Seems like your opening celebrating not only censorship but limiting the options to particular market.
Knock it off with the insults please — TBD

Edited on by theblackdragon

WAT!

Hey check out my awesome new youtube channel shingi70 where I update weekly on the latest gaming and comic news form a level headed perspective.

3DS Friend Code: 3093-7342-3454 | Nintendo Network ID: shingi70

sub12

Like I posted in the last thread, these people who claim every mature title is garbage are missing out on some outstanding games.

It's not different than when ignorant people claim that Nintendo games are just for kiddies.

sub12

mipaol

@shingi_70 Nope, not endorsing censorship, just glad their is at least one console that isn't bogged down with the types of games that seem all too common from many third party developers, and that I dislike. You may also notice that I said most and not all the games look like the same old tired gratuitous violence BS that I was bored with half way into the PS2 era. Call me condescending if you must but all I'm saying is that I and I'm sure many others do not care for games like Far Cry 4, to me games like Child of Light or Color Zen are much more "mature" because they are peaceful games that offer relaxing gameplay and make me actually feel good after playing them. If you really think I'm condescending for not supporting egocentric and gratuitous violence in video gaming, and being grateful that Nintendo makes consoles that are not focused on those sorts of games than thats your problem not mine.

@sub12 It's not that I think every mature game is garbage, far from it, I just have a (imo) more mature idea of what constitutes a mature game. To me a game that is mature is one that does not rely on graphics, violence, or egocentricity to sell a game, but rather a game that enhances a person's quality of life by feeling good after playing it. When I was younger I was all about gorey games and high body counts, but as I got older and came to realize what sort of world we live in those games lost their appeal for me, that is why I do not consider some games labeled "mature" to actually be mature. If other people wish to continue playing those sorts of games that's their right, and the industry will happily oblige them. But personally I've noticed since cutting back on those sorts of games I feel much more relaxed in my daily life and I no longer regard violence with the apathy I once did. Like I said above, I'm glad their is at least one console maker/game developer that not only provides but focuses on the sort of gaming experience I look for more and more as I get older, and for those of different values their are two consoles with the games they prefer.

It's been said a gazillion time but some of us actually approve of how Nintendo does things, and it would be nice if others stopped trying to pressure Nintendo into changing to suit what they want, especially when their are already two consoles that offer that sort of thing, let Nintendo be a haven for those who don't.

Coincidentlly, that's also why I prefer the Pan European Game Information (PEGI) rating system to the Entertainment Softwate Rating Board's, with the PEGI system games are classified by appropriate minimal age group, not by subjective terms like mature.

Edited on by mipaol

"Video games are bad for you? That's what they said about rock-n-roll." - Shigeru Miyamoto

Nintendo Network ID: mipaol

MrV4ltor

mipaol wrote:

MrV4ltor wrote:

Not really a surprise, since Ubisoft is pulling all support after Watch_Dogs is released. Trials: Fusion, The Crew, The Divison, Assassins Creed Unity, Assassins Creed Comet, Valiant Hearts. All of those aren't on Wii U. The only Ubisoft game we can expect is Just Dance 2015 or whatever it'll be called. Far Cry 4 was excpected, since the 3rd one wasn't even on the system. Assassins Creed on the other hand ...

Do you have a source to back up your claim that Ubisoft is pulling support for the Wii U after Watch Dogs? A link to something perhaps where a representative of Ubisoft specifically says they will not be supporting the Wii U in the future?

Just because they aren't bringing certain games to the console does not imply they plan to cease supporting the platform, especially considering how well Child of Light is selling on the Wii U. To be honest of the games you listed the only one I would have considered buying is Trials: Fusion, most of the others just look like the same old gratuitous violence BS I got bored of ages ago. If that's the bulk of what Ubisoft has to offer is their diminished support of the Wii U really such a loss, unless you're still into that sort of thing I guess, in which case their are two other consoles literally designed for those sort of games so even then why care if they don't come to the Wii U?

Granted it results in fewer console sales and a smaller user base, but one of the things I like about Nintendo consoles is that they aren't bogged down with piles of the sorts of shooter and action games common on the Sony and Microsoft platforms, to me Nintendo systems are a bit of a haven from the types of games that frankly I consider only fit for moronic dudebros and those that lack the maturity to see that this world is filled with enough violence as it is, why should our entertainment be dominated by it as well? If that's the sort of thing someone is still into so be it, they have two consoles catering to them, I'm just glad their is at least one that doesn't, because that one caters to me and others who share similar values when it comes to media consumption.

Why would I need a source to see that Ubi is pulling Wii U support? All the games I listed are literally their future lineup and none of them are coming to the Wii U. Sometimes you need to take your Nintendo glasses off and look at some facts. It's actually kind of diappointing to me that they don't seem to be supporting the system with any of their future core titles. I really liked some of their other efforts like Splinter Cell: Blacklist, which had some great gampad features.

Edited on by MrV4ltor

MrV4ltor

Nintendo Network ID: MrValtor | Twitter:

DexInDaJungle

Every time I need a good laugh I try to find one of these threads, where one side is having a fit about Nintendo screwing up and lack of third party games on the Wii U while the other side refuses to acknowledge the fact that yes, the Wii U is in danger. This coming from someone who bought a Wii U and yes I have an Xbox One as well for "mature" games. I would love nothing more than for the Wii U to succeed so that when I don't feel like playing shooters I could turn on my Wii U and play something different but the fact of the matter is Nintendo screwed up. Whether you guys want to admit it or not is your issue. Look at Nintendo's library of games, anything with any sort of promise for the most part is a platformer and as much as I enjoy a good platformer it's simply not gonna sell consoles anymore. Why should I pay $60 for a new Super Mario game when I can pay $5-15 for an indie platformer that seems a little more fresh. I believe it was Einstein who once said the definition of insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results.

The Wii U desperately needs diversity and thank the heavens we're getting some of that with Mario Kart this month but how long is that supposed to hold me over? Third party developers are not coming back to the Wii U, not until Nintendo themselves fix their own problems. Start giving us more diverse games, start releasing said games at a more frequent rate, start advertising outside of Japan and maybe just maybe, people will buy into the Wii U.

Twitter:

Ralizah

Yeah, I don't care. Just keep the Nintendo games coming.

Currently Playing: Advance Wars 1 + 2: Re- Boot Camp (NS)

Ryno

DexInDaJungle wrote:

but the fact of the matter is Nintendo screwed up. Whether you guys want to admit it or not is your issue. Look at Nintendo's library of games, anything with any sort of promise for the most part is a platformer and as much as I enjoy a good platformer it's simply not gonna sell consoles anymore. Why should I pay $60 for a new Super Mario game when I can pay $5-15 for an indie platformer that seems a little more fresh. I believe it was Einstein who once said the definition of insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results.

The Wii U desperately needs diversity and thank the heavens we're getting some of that with Mario Kart this month but how long is that supposed to hold me over? Third party developers are not coming back to the Wii U, not until Nintendo themselves fix their own problems. Start giving us more diverse games, start releasing said games at a more frequent rate, start advertising outside of Japan and maybe just maybe, people will buy into the Wii U.

I think most of us, outside of Nintendo anyway, can agree that Nintendo has screwed up somewhat. It's amazing to me that Iwata still has the same position that he has held for the past 12 years. Nintendo's image has been impacted pretty negatively under his tenure. Actually, what is more amazing is that the guy was given even more responsibility last year!

To blessed to be stressed.
80's music makes me feel fabulous.
What Would Duane Do?
Rynoggery

Nintendo Network ID: Choryzo

Tasuki

DexInDaJungle wrote:

Every time I need a good laugh I try to find one of these threads, where one side is having a fit about Nintendo screwing up and lack of third party games on the Wii U while the other side refuses to acknowledge the fact that yes, the Wii U is in danger. This coming from someone who bought a Wii U and yes I have an Xbox One as well for "mature" games. I would love nothing more than for the Wii U to succeed so that when I don't feel like playing shooters I could turn on my Wii U and play something different but the fact of the matter is Nintendo screwed up. Whether you guys want to admit it or not is your issue. Look at Nintendo's library of games, anything with any sort of promise for the most part is a platformer and as much as I enjoy a good platformer it's simply not gonna sell consoles anymore. Why should I pay $60 for a new Super Mario game when I can pay $5-15 for an indie platformer that seems a little more fresh. I believe it was Einstein who once said the definition of insanity is doing something over and over and expecting different results.

The Wii U desperately needs diversity and thank the heavens we're getting some of that with Mario Kart this month but how long is that supposed to hold me over? Third party developers are not coming back to the Wii U, not until Nintendo themselves fix their own problems. Start giving us more diverse games, start releasing said games at a more frequent rate, start advertising outside of Japan and maybe just maybe, people will buy into the Wii U.

And here is what I have to say to this argument

RetiredPush Square Moderator and all around retro gamer.

My Backlog

Nintendo Network ID: Tasuki311

SCRAPPER392

memoryman3 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

The industry situation has changed, but there are plenty of similarities between Wii U and PS2. The only real difference was that Dreamcast was commercial suicide, which benefited PS2. Technologically, online, and price wise, Wii U is this gen PS2, sales aside. The Wii U has more games than PS4 and Xbox One, too, so...

Not really, PS2 was a least a leap from N64. Unlike being identical to last gen like Wii U....

Most of the jump in graphical performance was made by Dreamcast prior to PS2, though, which is why I brought it forth as a large factor of why PS2 was immediately successful.

Also, technological differences are why Wii U is still stuck in 7th gen. If Nintendo can make games look like Mario Kart 8, X, the Zelda tech demo, and even Smash Bros, there isn't any issue with determining whether Wii U is 8th gen. It is, period.

If 3rd parties want to be little crap weasels and continue to put out 7th gen games on a capable console, then they can go crawl into their hole of a home.

Edited on by SCRAPPER392

Qwest

3DS Friend Code: 4253-3737-8064 | Nintendo Network ID: Children

DexInDaJungle

SCAR392 wrote:

memoryman3 wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

The industry situation has changed, but there are plenty of similarities between Wii U and PS2. The only real difference was that Dreamcast was commercial suicide, which benefited PS2. Technologically, online, and price wise, Wii U is this gen PS2, sales aside. The Wii U has more games than PS4 and Xbox One, too, so...

Not really, PS2 was a least a leap from N64. Unlike being identical to last gen like Wii U....

Most of the jump in graphical performance was made by Dreamcast prior to PS2, though, which is why I brought it forth as a large factor of why PS2 was immediately successful.

Also, technological differences are why Wii U is still stuck in 7th gen. If Nintendo can make games look like Mario Kart 8, X, the Zelda tech demo, and even Smash Bros, there isn't any issue with determining whether Wii U is 8th gen. It is, period.

If 3rd parties want to be little crap weasels and continue to put out 7th gen games on a capable console, then they can go crawl into their hole of a home.

I agree with you, the Wii U is very capable of playing the same games that the PS4/Xbox One can, albeit, probably not as well but those visual differences people keep bringing up are not noticeable when you're actually playing the game, unless you're standing right in front of the screen looking for imperfections. Games shouldn't be judged by graphics, period.

However, if I was a CEO at one of the bigger development companies, I would think twice before releasing my games on the Wii U too. Why would I wanna put my employees lives at risk by taking a risk on a console that has proven time and time again that it isn't selling as well as the competition. It's by no means their fault, and when I see people whining and telling them to crawl in a hole or die, it kinda grinds my gears. Nintendo is the number one company you should be upset with, they are the ones who have done very little to promote their console outside of Japan, they are the ones who keep releasing platformers over and over without giving the fans any real diversity. Nintendo needs to fix the Wii U, no one is gonna try to fix it for them and no one is gonna take any unneeded risks on them.

Edited on by DexInDaJungle

Twitter:

SCRAPPER392

@DexinDaJungle
I totally agree that Nintendo should always be trying to improve things for their customers. I was mainly addressing the idea that Wii U can't handle these new games, technologically. There are reasons why Nintendo isn't doing as well as they could, but there are also reasons why they should be be doing better than they currently are, IMO.

I was under the impression that weasels lived in holes, so I apologize

Qwest

3DS Friend Code: 4253-3737-8064 | Nintendo Network ID: Children

kkslider5552000

the Xbox 360 and PS3 has that MGSV demo thing, by far the most graphically impressive console title I have ever seen. So yes, the vast majority of time, it's not a technology problem. Not right now at least. Nintendo went after hardcore titles that didn't convince people to get Nintendo, didn't appeal to people who get Nintendo, by companies that had no idea how to appeal and pander to fans of Nintendo.

Of course I live in an idealistic world where Nintendo specifically only focuses on more interesting titles that would've been unfairly ignored elsewhere and watches and laughs as their eventually decent sales and outside support completely bypasses the absurd amount of jobs loss because of ridiculous expectations and budgets elsewhere.

Non-binary, demiguy, making LPs, still alive

Megaman Legends 2 Let's Play!:
LeT's PlAy MEGAMAN LEGENDS 2 < Link to LP

LegatoSkyheart

Jazzer94 wrote:

I don't know who thought it would really.

I honestly thought when the WiiU was announced we would get a ton of 3rd Party Multiplats.
I mean the WiiU is at least as strong as a 360 or a PS3. It probably won't see Xbox One or PS4 multiplats, but it should see PS3 and 360 multiplats.

The First Red flags were when they announced Tomb Raider and Bioshock Infinite weren't coming to the console.
I gave 2K and Square benefit of the doubt because I assumed those games were well deep into development before the WiiU was announced. Deus Ex Human Revolution was announced for WiiU and it gave me some hope, even though that port was a bad way of cashing in, I mean why pay $60 when the game was like $15 else where?

Anyway time goes on and more games get pushed back or just unannounced for WiiU, Titles like Crysis 3, Saints Row 4, Far Cry 3, Dead Space 3, Metro Last Light, Castlevania Mirror of Fate HD, Metal Gear Rising Revengence, Grand Theft Auto 5, Battlefield 4, Dark Souls 2, Ultra Street Fighter IV, Resident Evil 6, DMC Devil May Cry, Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2, Metal Gear Solid 5 Ground Zeros, Soul Calibur 2 HD, and the list goes on and on.

What's bad is that Tomb Raider actually saw a redevelopment cycle much like what Deus Ex did, but you know what? They didn't even bother trying to put that game on the WiiU, but they sure did put forth the effort into putting it on PS4 and Xbox One.

So Hearing Farcry 4 is not going to be on the WiiU is VERY sad to see because I look at my WiiU games and see all of the launch titles I have, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, ZombiU, Assassin's Creed 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, and Ninja Gaiden 3 Razor's Edge, along with New Super Mario Bros and Nintendo Land, it reminds me of that time in 2012 where I thought "This was going to be different, I really will not need to go to any other system this generation, I can finally play all the games I want on a Nintendo System." But Now I can see that was clearly foolish thinking on my part.

LegatoSkyheart

This topic has been archived, no further posts can be added.