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mr_shanetastic

Very easy idea Nintendo, give gamers WHAT THEY WANT!!!!

I want a steady stream or subscription service for Virtual Console, real Pokemon Console game, new Starfox, new IP's, new F-Zero, new 3D Donkey Kong, etc.

I really do not understand why this company resists what it's customers wants so much and trying to innovate or surprise us.

I like Iwata but enough is enough. WE WANT TO THROW OUR MONEY AT YOU AND YOU ARE TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL!- sorry for my rant I'm bored

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mr_shanetastic

Today's North American e Shop releases- Spin the Bottle update and Super C. ARE YOU KIDDING ME

Only ones to blame for Wii U commercial failure is Nintendo. What a joke

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jump

Ninty doesn't need to be saved, the Wii U on the other hand does but none of your ideas would be crazy successfull.

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The problem with your idea is that gamers want different things and Nintendo isn't a magician.

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El Oh El. Why don't they just fire Iwata and hire a 20 man council of Ninty fanboys? They all have such great ideas and know how to run a business. Come on Nintendo, you don't know what you're doing and a 15 year old fanboy on the internet knows how to save you. Get it together!

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mr_shanetastic

Sorry for another save Nintendo thread but this is a joke. Under Iwata's leadership they abandoned compelling releases on the market leading original Wii. What were they working on? Wii U is going on 1.5 years and I'm waiting for SSB???? Sorry that's a joke!

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mr_shanetastic

Sorry I work in business, am 36 years old and have spent thousands of dollars on their products. I have been a stock holder before.

Releasing wanted games instead of saying Pokemon is best on portables is a joke. Sadly the fan boy crys are more compelling than what they have done.

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Nintendelb

That wouldn't change much. The people that want a new Starfox and etc already have a Wii U for the most part, so the only thing affected will be software sales. Sure, some people will jump on board, maybe even a million people, but it's not going to drive the hardware sales up the wall for very long.

Sorry to say, but a big chunk of the mainstream audience just doesn't want to play Nintendo. They want 'artistic' games, they want 'hollywood-action' and 'dramatic new ways of storytelling', all of which Nintendo doesn't provide; and that's why I love them. Point is, there aren't that many people who want to play video games in the video game industry.

So, only way to save Nintendo is for Nintendo to do a marketing revolution in which they make their video games seem even cooler than Uncharted or Dark Souls to the little kids and teenagers so that they would even want to consider owning a Nintendo console which their big brothers and friends currently consider a kiddy console (and a failing one at that. Seriously, why would you want one if you are new to the industry? Do you want a console that everyone considers a failure and boring?). Once they get a few of the 'cool kids' to play the Wii U, the other friends will follow and people will start talking about how cool the console is... And you know the drill.

Just saying, it worked for PS4, and that console has no more than two new games on it three months after its release, and those aren't Uncharted and God of War, those are freaking Killzone and Knack for God's sakes, and I am pretty sure nobody bought a PS4 just to play Knack or Killzone. They didn't need a big game like Uncharted or something, it's just cool to own a PS4 bro because PS4 for the gamers (and gamers don't expect to get games apparently after a 500 dollar purchase)

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mr_shanetastic

I hear ya, again just a bored-snowed in rant. I love Nintendo but again, for example, has a 1 year+ old console and does not have some of their flagship classic titles on VC yet.

Talk about the market all you want but they have done next to nothing to help.

When they basically stopped frequent quality releases on the market leading Wii I thought they must be cooking up amazing releases for new platform.

The casuals Wii's became an afterthought because of Nintendo. Talk about falling asleep at the wheel. Fairly or not Iwata is responsible.

How many times do we have to hear oh sorry we don't know how to advertise our product. Or we didn't know how to develop in HD. Come on this is elementary stuff, not imaginary fan boy stuff.

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DudeSean

mr_shanetastic wrote:

Today's North American e Shop releases- Spin the Bottle update and Super C. ARE YOU KIDDING ME

Only ones to blame for Wii U commercial failure is Nintendo. What a joke

Super C? Awesome!

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Neoproteus

Nintendelb wrote:

That wouldn't change much. The people that want a new Starfox and etc already have a Wii U for the most part, so the only thing affected will be software sales. Sure, some people will jump on board, maybe even a million people, but it's not going to drive the hardware sales up the wall for very long.

Sorry to say, but a big chunk of the mainstream audience just doesn't want to play Nintendo. They want 'artistic' games, they want 'hollywood-action' and 'dramatic new ways of storytelling', all of which Nintendo doesn't provide; and that's why I love them. Point is, there aren't that many people who want to play video games in the video game industry.

So, only way to save Nintendo is for Nintendo to do a marketing revolution in which they make their video games seem even cooler than Uncharted or Dark Souls to the little kids and teenagers so that they would even want to consider owning a Nintendo console which their big brothers and friends currently consider a kiddy console (and a failing one at that. Seriously, why would you want one if you are new to the industry? Do you want a console that everyone considers a failure and boring?). Once they get a few of the 'cool kids' to play the Wii U, the other friends will follow and people will start talking about how cool the console is... And you know the drill.

Just saying, it worked for PS4, and that console has no more than two new games on it three months after its release, and those aren't Uncharted and God of War, those are freaking Killzone and Knack for God's sakes, and I am pretty sure nobody bought a PS4 just to play Knack or Killzone. They didn't need a big game like Uncharted or something, it's just cool to own a PS4 bro because PS4 for the gamers (and gamers don't expect to get games apparently after a 500 dollar purchase)

This... if F-Zero and Starfox ever get another game, it'll be a download only for $10-$20. It'd be nice, but it's not going to help the console...

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A console Pokémon RPG with the same level of quality of the portable releases would sell consoles like crazy (imagine if Pokémon Z was a Wii U exclusive). New IPs would help too.

I'm not sure about the other ideas in terms of purely shifting units. Yeah, VC on Wii U kind of sucks, but at the very least if people really want to get them, they can still get them through Wii mode. And VC didn't really do amazingly well for the Wii after a few years. F-Zero and Star Fox are only really going to appeal to people who already own the Wii U. And a new 3D Donkey Kong probably won't do much either.

Frankly, I think Nintendo should really figure out all of the things they did really wrong with the Wii U and fix them with its successor, like what Sony did with the PS4 (easier development infrastructure, much better online, better price point, firmware updates that don't take forever, more attractive dashboard, etc.) In the meantime, they should do what you say they should do, but not because they're trying to shift consoles; it's so they don't tick off their most dedicated fans.

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Nintendelb

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A console Pokémon RPG with the same level of quality of the portable releases would sell consoles like crazy (imagine if Pokémon Z was a Wii U exclusive). New IPs would help too.

I doubt that a Pokemon console game will sell consoles to some ridiculous extent. I mean, I know many people who play video games sometimes and bought a 3DS just to play Pokemon, and I can safely assume that they would never buy a Wii U for a Pokemon game, especially now that they have a Pokemon game for the 3DS already. They are already part of a community of friends who play Pokemon X and Y for the 3DS, and that community is active and everywhere with streetpass. They wouldn't feel like the newest Pokemon game is on consoles, because everyone in their community is playing X and Y.

And just to list another experience, a friend of mine recently got into gaming and bought himself a PS3. He's asking me about video games that he should play, and so I asked him what he would like to play. He outright states that he is not interested in video games that are not like Hollywood movies, he does not want to play a game that is simply about getting to the end and collecting everything, he wants another Last of Us. This is the kind of demographic that will NEVER buy a Nintendo console, at least not until they radically change. Don't get me wrong, I am so very glad that they are not catering to that demographic, but business-wise, that's the reason why they fail.

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mr_shanetastic

And if the mainstream doesn't play Nintendo why do they play 3DS?

Nintendo is the only family friendly option in the market. Families still exist right? People used to love to have friends over for Wii Bowling correct?

The market likes Nintendo just fine. The people steering the ship appear clueless. All this negativity toward their platform and where is Nintendos positive PR? Extremely poor leadership

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mr_shanetastic wrote:

Today's North American e Shop releases- Spin the Bottle update and Super C. ARE YOU KIDDING ME

You do realise that there's a Nintendo Direct in 7 hours or so right? So if this is just about the eShop update for this week then you might be getting ahead of yourself. They've kinda made a habit of making the update just before a Nintendo Direct weak to allow them to push something during a Direct. Not saying this will happen after this next Direct but if they were going to expand the VC or push a new app or small game then they wouldn't have done it before the Direct. They'd hold out for a bit and then make sure they can bundle it in the next Direct. They even do this for some of the big indie releases.

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jump

mr_shanetastic wrote:

And if the mainstream doesn't play Nintendo why do they play 3DS?

Nintendo is the only family friendly option in the market. Families still exist right? People used to love to have friends over for Wii Bowling correct?

The market likes Nintendo just fine. The people steering the ship appear clueless. All this negativity toward their platform and where is Nintendos positive PR? Extremely poor leadership

If you're taking the Ninty is family friendly angle than the VC, Star Fox & F Zero wont do much for them.

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Nintendelb

mr_shanetastic wrote:

And if the mainstream doesn't play Nintendo why do they play 3DS?

Nintendo is the only family friendly option in the market. Families still exist right? People used to love to have friends over for Wii Bowling correct?

The market likes Nintendo just fine. The people steering the ship appear clueless. All this negativity toward their platform and where is Nintendos positive PR? Extremely poor leadership

There are a few reasons why people buy a 3DS but don't buy a Wii U. If you want a handheld, or a mobile video game system in general nowadays, you have three options: 3DS, PS Vita and your phone. You already have a phone, and you see people everywhere walking around with more advanced systems. I have seen a total of one person that has a Vita and walks around with it on the University campus. I see about twenty people with a 3DS system, and I always get 10 Streetpasses a day when going on campus.

The Vita is failing for the exact same reason as the Nintendo Wii U. It's not that there aren't any good games on there, it's just that there isn't anything that anybody is talking about. At least the Wii U has Super Mario 3D World, the Vita has not a single popular title. I thought Tearaway was going to be a bit of a pusher, but no, nobody talks about Tearaway, nobody goes on forums and raves about Tearaway. Oh boy do they rave about the 3DS though, but you are not part of them and you feel like the boring kid on the block... And then you see the system is sold at a minimum of 120 bucks. Dude, you have 120 bucks left, don't you? Oh boy, let's join in on the fun now, let me buy a 3DS/2DS and I can rave about it too!!

Quite honestly, nobody goes on forums and raves about Wii U exclusives either, except perhaps Super Mario 3D World, which non-Nintendo fans consider to be the very reason why they don't want to play a Wii U; Mario is a kiddy game and a rehash (that's their opinion).

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DudeSean

Neoproteus wrote:

if F-Zero and Starfox ever get another game, it'll be a download only for $10-$20. It'd be nice, but it's not going to help the console...

I don't believe that one bit. If Nintendo were to come out with a new F-Zero or Starfox game, it would be a full game that costs $50-$60. Even if it were digital only, $20 would be the least it would be and I doubt it would even be that cheap. It would probably be more like $40. Nintendo knows who is buying F-Zero and Starfox. It's the loyal fans. Loyal fans will pay the extra money (see: Earthbound on Wii U VC).

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mr_shanetastic

Well we'll see after the Nintendo Direct. It just ticks me off they appear so clueless, maybe I'm wrong.

The whole "hey we're Japanese, so we're so humble and cute" shtick with Iwata is wearing thin

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