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MadAussieBloke wrote:

@DudeSean Actually I would rather have REmake, Zero, Umbrella & Darkside Chronicles over RE5 & 6... Also RE4, Mercenaries & Revelations are better on the Nintendo side of the spectrum... The other systems turned RE into a steaming pile of dog poop ;)

It's going to be gold if they put GCN on the eShop. Capcom would make bank if they just put those REmakes on there, for sure. Looks like that exclusive deal held true for those games so far...

I only want EA back once they start making good games again. I haven't liked their games since 2007. Medal of Honor: Heroes 2(using the zapper), Dead Space, and Mirror's Edge were the last games I liked from them.

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EA are hedging their bets on the PS4 and Xbox One. They feel that even though there is no market yet, people will make the switch to the One & PS4. EA doesn't feel the Wii U will have the sales.

This was because EA didn't support the Wii as comprehensively as the Xbox 360 or PS3.

This was because the Wii was grossly underpowered compared to the two consoles.

This might change in the future (I'd like nothing more than to see EA come grovelling back to the Wii U after it enjoys a sales spike, but at the moment, that just isn't happening), but for now, EA are happy to ignore the Wii U.

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The Wii U is simply just not in good straights right now. It doesn't have a very large install base, and is much weaker than it's two contemporaries. They, and other companies as mentioned here just cannot see justifying making games that just are not likely to make a profit.

Imagine you were in the shoes of a big game company executive, what would you honestly do? They're not against the Wii U, it's the Wii U's currently small install base that's against them.

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It's EA, who cares what they think, lol

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I personally think EA is a garbage company now. I mean look what they did to Dead Space. I love the first one and the Wii one. The second one was fun but I never got around to beating it simply because I wasn't very interested in the story and i lacked the motivation to get back into it. I haven't played the 3rd one and am glad, those micro transactions killed it for me, plus since I didn't like the second one the 3rd really had nothing to offer IMO.

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MadAussieBloke wrote:

@DudeSean Actually I would rather have REmake, Zero, Umbrella & Darkside Chronicles over RE5 & 6... Also RE4, Mercenaries & Revelations are better on the Nintendo side of the spectrum... The other systems turned RE into a steaming pile of dog poop ;)

Code Veronica i would love to see overhauled on the wii U, they already did a HD remake for other systems.

As for the EA discussion, i havnt and most likely wont purchase a game from them anytime soon. Once they got off of steam that was the end of EA for me with any of their games except Mass Effect to finish the trilogy, so them not coming to the Wii U hasnt really changed anything for me.

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Erica_Hartmann wrote:

It's EA, who cares what they think, lol

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I personally think EA is a garbage company now. I mean look what they did to Dead Space. I love the first one and the Wii one. The second one was fun but I never got around to beating it simply because I wasn't very interested in the story and i lacked the motivation to get back into it. I haven't played the 3rd one and am glad, those micro transactions killed it for me, plus since I didn't like the second one the 3rd really had nothing to offer IMO.

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I would assume the millions of people who like EA games cares what they think. I have seen alot of people not getting a Wii U becuase it wont have the new NEeed for Seed, Battlefield, or mirrors edge.

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Sony_70 wrote:

thatguyEZ wrote:

Erica_Hartmann wrote:

It's EA, who cares what they think, lol

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I personally think EA is a garbage company now. I mean look what they did to Dead Space. I love the first one and the Wii one. The second one was fun but I never got around to beating it simply because I wasn't very interested in the story and i lacked the motivation to get back into it. I haven't played the 3rd one and am glad, those micro transactions killed it for me, plus since I didn't like the second one the 3rd really had nothing to offer IMO.

Never plays but game bit assumes it has nothing too offer.

I would assume the millions of people who like EA games cares what they think. I have seen alot of people not getting a Wii U becuase it wont have the new NEeed for Seed, Battlefield, or mirrors edge.

Let's be fair. Nintendo said it will compete with PS4 and XBOX!
Battlefield , Need for Speed, Bioshock, Call of Duty are BIG titles. If Nintendo can't get them on Wii U - then wii u will be DISASTER.

Modern era Nintendo console can't be sold just to play New 2D mario, new 2D/3D Donkey Kong.

I have great love for Nintendo games, but it's insane to pay 300 GBP just so you can buy 10 nintendo games.

Not to mention SPORTS games. SPORTS games are gonna be one of the most popular games on "next gen" consoles.

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Sports? That's good to hear, because I am a bit tired of the shooters always stealing the interest. Shooters are starting to become too popular and fans of other genres are left dissatisfied. Time for SPORTS!

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Don't care for EA's copy and pastes, so no thanks. Also, do we really need to have this petty discussion again? :|

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Happy_Mask wrote:

Don't care for EA's copy and pastes, so no thanks. Also, do we really need to have this petty discussion again? :|

If EA is just about Copy and pastes why their titles sell millions of copies?

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sinanziric wrote:

Happy_Mask wrote:

Don't care for EA's copy and pastes, so no thanks. Also, do we really need to have this petty discussion again? :|

If EA is just about Copy and pastes why their titles sell millions of copies?

Because their fans are idiots, lol

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edhe wrote:

EA are hedging their bets on the PS4 and Xbox One. They feel that even though there is no market yet, people will make the switch to the One & PS4. EA doesn't feel the Wii U will have the sales.

This was because EA didn't support the Wii as comprehensively as the Xbox 360 or PS3.

This was because the Wii was grossly underpowered compared to the two consoles.

This might change in the future (I'd like nothing more than to see EA come grovelling back to the Wii U after it enjoys a sales spike, but at the moment, that just isn't happening), but for now, EA are happy to ignore the Wii U.

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The Wii U is simply just not in good straights right now. It doesn't have a very large install base, and is much weaker than it's two contemporaries. They, and other companies as mentioned here just cannot see justifying making games that just are not likely to make a profit.

Imagine you were in the shoes of a big game company executive, what would you honestly do? They're not against the Wii U, it's the Wii U's currently small install base that's against them.

I'm afraid I would have to disagree. Something at EA before the Wii U launched had put them into a situation to go back on many statements with regards to the Wii U.

Underpowered and doesn't have a large install base? If that were the case, then why were they so enthusiastic at E3 2011 about offering 100% support to Nintendo and Wii U? They had no idea of what the install base would be, and if their software on Wii was any indication, they wouldn't have presented so much support back at that E3. System information, specs, and even development kits were available to devs at that time. That doesn't match up.

In fact, I think the reason EA is pulling support is because they're doing it to themselves and not because of the Wii U's current state. The many decisions they made seem to reflect that, and many of them were before the Wii U even launched.

Look at FIFA '13. A game that was a port of FIFA '12 with only a roster update. FIFA '13 on PS3/360 was a completely different game. Would you rather play the same game with a new roster in the franchise, or play a new game in it?

Now, Mass Effect 3. The game is ported to Wii U. Nice, except, they want full price for it. Ok, that might be understandable because new games, even ports, are usually more expensive when they first release. Then comes the kicker. PS3/360 get the Mass Effect Trilogy.......for the exact same price as ME3 on Wii U. If that doesn't scream "Don't buy me for the Wii U!", I don't know what will. EA effectively destroyed their attempt at selling the Wii U version all on their own. It wasn't about install bases. It wasn't even about power.

Now for a game after the release. Crysis 3. By this time, yes, Wii U wasn't doing well. Install base was low. System is underpowered. But, the game itself was practically complete (and running beautifully according to the developer). EA had already spent money on its development, but EA decides they're going to pull the plug. It wasn't because of the Wii U's install base. It wasn't because of the Wii U's power. It was because of business relations with Nintendo.

So much doesn't add up with regard to EA's supposed "unprecedented partnership" except for one rumor that has been swimming around on the internet, and the likely reason why Wii U had dedicated a full 1GB of its 2GB RAM to the system's OS. Origin. Base on reports when Wii U was in the works, Nintendo was working with an outside company in handling their online infrastructure. EA is one of the companies determined to back up Nintendo during E3 2011, saying they'd support them and bring so many games to the system. Such games, which are now being said would not be possible on the hardware, long after EA understood the power of the Wii U, not before. It is believed that Origin was to be the backbone to the Wii U's online capabilities.

So, if Origin was meant to be on Wii U, what happened? Well, that has brought up much speculation, but one likely scenario involves control and money. By having Origin on Wii U, it would mean EA would have a good deal, if not all, of control involving Origin's use. Origin is also a digital distribution service, so any games, whether by EA, Nintendo or any other company, were to be supplied for the Wii U, they'd have to be placed on Origin. This would mean profits would then be split one more way, going towards EA, which I'm sure EA was hoping to bank on. Then is the actual content. By having control, EA can choose what to have at the forefront of the service. Since EA is out to make money, and they are in control, it's not hard to imagine what they would do. It's all speculation, since no real truth has been given. Even EA's continued flip-flopping on statements makes it hard to figure out what truly is happening between them and Nintendo, but we do know something happened.

This isn't the first time a deal between Nintendo and another company had gone sour during development. The most known is between Nintendo and Sony with regards to the SNES CD. Why did that fall through? Based on contract information, Sony would have gained all royalties for games on the SNES CD, leaving Nintendo in the dust. This set off a number of events (from both sides) that eventually led to Sony pulling the plug, and developing the Playstation from the ashes of the SNES CD.

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32. Posted:

Erica_Hartmann wrote:

sinanziric wrote:

Happy_Mask wrote:

Don't care for EA's copy and pastes, so no thanks. Also, do we really need to have this petty discussion again? :|

If EA is just about Copy and pastes why their titles sell millions of copies?

Because their fans are idiots, lol

I could very well say that about Mario. Mario this mario that mario mario mario let the bugger die all ready. How many times does he have to save this damn princess? But I won't as I know a lot of people adore Mario. You have no right to call people idiots if they like the new FIFA or Madden or Mirror's Edge or Need for Speed.

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If I wanted 3rd party games, I'd buy just buy them on the PC.

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The problem with the relationship is that the same people who buy this:Untitled or Untitled are not the same people who buy this: Untitled

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Poor Nintendo just seems to be in an inescapable pickle; not just with EA, but with almost all 3rd parties. If they don't release their first party triple A titles, then nobody comes to help since they think the install base is too small to make a profit. But if (or rather when) they do bring out all their own heavy hitters, the 3rd parties complain that the 1st party titles take more then the lion's share of sales (which is usually true), so they don't contribute then. It seems like Nintendo can't win with other developers no matter what they do now.

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Kewlan wrote:

If I wanted 3rd party games, I'd buy just buy them on the PC.

Just because you can buy 3rd party games on PC doesn't make an excuse for Nintendo WIi U.

Wii U is here to compete with PS4 and XBOX one yet it can't compete with PS3 and XBOX 360 ATM.
I love both Nintendo games and EA games, and I can't accept Wii U being without SPORT games.

I want to play both Super Mario 3D Land, Zelda, Battlefield, Call of Duty, FIFA 14, NBA 2k14, PIKMIN on a single console. That's why I bought the Wii U.

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The Mario games (well, except the "New" series anyways. >_>) are at least trying different things, we had gravity and small planetoids thrown into gameplay, and now they're basically mixing in 2D mechanics into a 3D game. (a flagpole instead of a star, no health bar system, a timer, etc)
EA Sports seems like they're just doing the same thing every year.

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38. Posted:

Erica_Hartmann wrote:

The Mario games (well, except the "New" series anyways. >_>) are at least trying different things, we had gravity and small planetoids thrown into gameplay, and now they're basically mixing in 2D mechanics into a 3D game. (a flagpole instead of a star, no health bar system, a timer, etc)
EA Sports seems like they're just doing the same thing every year.

I am one of the biggest Football (soccer) fans in the World, and Trust me, difference between FIFA 12 and FIFA 13 is Huge as far as gameplay is concerned.
EA is making their SPORT games as realistic as possible. Leaps are small but satisfaction in the end is GREAT.

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I'm buying a PS4 for the reason of them of wanting good third party support on my console.

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sinanziric wrote:

Wii U is here to compete with PS4 and XBOX one yet it can't compete with PS3 and XBOX 360 ATM.

In defense of gaming in general, PS3 and 360 had to compete with PS2 for a couple of years, to which PS2 continued having strong sales by comparison. This is a normal occurrence because the install base for any last-gen system is much larger, most projects are still in development for them, and that's usually where the money lies between the shift from last-gen to next-gen. Not to rule out PS4 or XB1, but I have a feeling they'll end up with the Wii U syndrome, having a good launch followed by not-so-average low sales after the fanboys pick up their systems.

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