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Topic: Do you think Nintendo will dump the Wii U for NX

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Bolt_Strike

Doge wrote:

They said they wouldn't

They say a lot of things.

Bolt_Strike

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martinskrtel37

rallydefault wrote:

@martinskrtel37: I don't think they're going to keep any of the Wii stuff. I think the NX will be a new brand for Nintendo, with the Wii era being left behind. And as far as wiping the slate clean when it comes to their image over the last two generations, that would be in their best interest.

how would it be in their best interest to wipe the slate clean? :

remember where they were post-gamecube? probably not. then they made the wiimote and revolutionised the way we interacted with the console, the TV, the game. the western corporations copied with camera gimmicks and wiimote spinoffs and flopped. hard. they saw how nintendo put the wiimote in hands that had never held nintendo controllers - mothers, fathers, children who were intimidated by games previously. but they couldn't nail it so they went back to safety. nintendo built on their ideas, they're not going backwards from here.

they're not going to "compete with microsoft and sony", it's the other way around really, those two copied the Wii's ideas and flopped so they went back to what works for them and what has worked for the gaming industry, which, incidentally, nintendo built.so really, people want nintendo to go back to what works for them, which actually didn't work for them after a while, because people wanted new things, so nintendo branched out... what a strange set of events. today we see nintendo branching out further than ever - they are taking strides in toys and entertainment and even healthy living, bringing their company into the 21st century, we should be applauding this. instead people are acting like they should think small-time and short-term, what exactly is to be gained from this?

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Octane wrote:

everyone needs to relax and enjoy the games that are released today and stop worrying what Nintendo will do in a year or two from now.

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Bolt_Strike

UGXwolf wrote:

@Bolt_Strike: And should we just assume they're always lying?

Yes. You should always be skeptical until they prove otherwise.

Bolt_Strike

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Sleepingmudkip

Bolt_Strike wrote:

You should always be skeptical until they prove otherwise.

all gamers should follow this rule because this industry has lied too many times before.

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AJ_Lethal

Bolt_Strike wrote:

UGXwolf wrote:

@Bolt_Strike: And should we just assume they're always lying?

Yes. You should always be skeptical until they prove otherwise.

It's their word, they have to live up to it.

That's my position

UGXwolf

@Bolt_Strike: Wrong. Skepticism does not mean assuming they are lying. Skepticism means realizing that they haven't proven anything. There's a very clear difference, and while I don't necessarily believe they're being 100% honest about the NX at this point, I also don't ASSUME anything. After all! You know what they say about when you assume~

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martinskrtel37

the "industry" doesn't "lie to you", it's just politics, it's PR, it's spin, you're not supposed to ever take anything a company releases in the media as gospel. you don't "take them on their word" and then call them liars. it's not a person it's a company playing the PR game.

Octane wrote:

everyone needs to relax and enjoy the games that are released today and stop worrying what Nintendo will do in a year or two from now.

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Bolt_Strike

martinskrtel37 wrote:

the "industry" doesn't "lie to you", it's just politics, it's PR, it's spin, you're not supposed to ever take anything a company releases in the media as gospel. you don't "take them on their word" and then call them liars. it's not a person it's a company playing the PR game.

Pretty sure saying things like the DS is a third pillar and they won't make mobile games are lies, not spin.

Bolt_Strike

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Octane

Bolt_Strike wrote:

martinskrtel37 wrote:

the "industry" doesn't "lie to you", it's just politics, it's PR, it's spin, you're not supposed to ever take anything a company releases in the media as gospel. you don't "take them on their word" and then call them liars. it's not a person it's a company playing the PR game.

Pretty sure saying things like the DS is a third pillar and they won't make mobile games are lies, not spin.

I'm pretty sure they call every new system a third pillar. Anyway, the GBA wasn't discontinued until 2-4 years after the DS had launched. I don't think they ever said that they won't ever make mobile games. iirc Iwata said last year that they didn't have any plans at that time, but they never said that they were never going to make mobile games, that must've been your assumption.

Octane

UGXwolf

@Bolt_Strike: The DS wasn't planned to replace the GBA. Notice how the GBA still got some games after it came out that the DS didn't ever see? That's not a lie. That's just inaccurate labeling. And I don't recall them saying Nintendo IPs would never find their way to mobile. Simply that Nintendo didn't develop mobile games, which from what I recall, they aren't. They're not dedicating teams to mobile apps. They're supervising existing mobile teams on the use of Nintendo IP.

Besides, even if they WERE developing mobile apps, changing your mind and lying are two vastly different things.

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Grumblevolcano

@UGXwolf: The Mario Kart 8 DLC team got moved to mobile...

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UGXwolf

@Grumblevolcano: Ok, ONE team. I was under the impression DeNA was designing the games and Nintendo was overseeing. Sort of like previous partnerships where Nintendo is getting DeNA's help for online infrastructure and in return, DeNA can make mobile games using Nintendo IP. That's what it sounded like to me.

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PaperMario64

Nintendo don't need to dump the Wii U for NX.
Nature will take care of that.

PaperMario64

rallydefault

@martinskrtel37 "remember where they were post-gamecube? probably not"

lol WHAT?! I'm pretty old, dude, probably much older than you... trust me, I remember where Nintendo was post-Gamecube. You also seem to be forgetting that the Gamecube was one of the most well-loved gaming machines ever made, even in the opinion of people who have left Nintendo for the past two generations.

The Wii brought "cotton candy" success - it sold gangbusters for that generation, and mostly to consumers who were never liable to develop brand loyalty, but were only latching on to the coolest thing at the time - needless to say, it fell off quickly at the end of its life (unlike something like the PS2, which is VERY indicative of the audience it attracted), and it fell into the Wii U, which is not doing "ok." It's just not. Your viewpoint is very insular and ignorant of the tens of millions of customers that quite obviously did NOT have any interest in the Wii U following the Wii. That's tens of millions of sales that Nintendo will continue to miss out on if they pursue the Wii brand even further.

I'm not going to say I hate telling people "I told you so," because after the NX announcement, I CAN'T WAIT to tell you "I told you so" lol

rallydefault

PikPi

Nintendo didn't build off their successes of the Wii. In fact in many ways they did "go back in time". I like to use the term regressed. The wii motion + was a nice upgrade, but for the Wii U, they mostly dumped it in favor of a tablet controller.

And not just that, but even their regular controllers regressed. The classic controller on the Wii had analog triggers. The Pro controller and gamepad don't. Not sure why, but they were definitely a step back in that. Thankfully though that's really my only complaint with them. That should be easily rectified for the next generation. I hope.

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