Topic: Do you consider Nintendo games "outdated"?

Yes. The devil is in the detail.

Story and narrative are two different things. The story is generic, but Zelda has always been good at telling cliche stories in engaging ways. Ocarina of Time has a lot of heart and soul.

Lol, I just noticed this. How long have you had that sig? What's it even from?

I think this sums up the thread pretty well.

/agree

I just made it up a day ago or so. I still have no idea what an 'open world 2D platformer' is, lol.

Ok then. Twilight Princess's narrative was cliche because it reused much of Ocarina's narrative

No, no it didn't. Did you see Malon or returning characters again? No, Zelda was hardly even in the game. It did tie up a few loose ends from Ocarina, like finally letting us unfreeze Zora's domain.

The broad story was similar, though, sans the dark future.

So that makes it A Link to the Past 3.0

Oh okay. Go to Forest Temple, then go to mountain for Fire Temple and save the Gorons. Then save the Zoras from being frozen (again), then go to the Water Temple in Lake Hylia.

Does this sound familiar?

I would say the narrative of OoT and MM are very similar. They both take you from A to B in the same way. But the stories are very different. The events in each game made me feel very differently, but they ultimately had that same Zelda narration i.e. a character you could put yourself in etc etc.

Except Dodongo eating the goron's rocks is not Darmani hunting down Volvolgia for eating the gorons is not Darbus being corrupted by evil magic and sealed away.

And Twilight Princess has zora's that aren't green hagfish so ALTP ain't got nothin' on that.

Out of the games you listed, I like only Mass Effect. Also, why bother asking this question on a NINTENDO forum? (PS. Mass Effect is one of the greatest franchises ever, haters gonna hate.) Also, I think the gameplay in Nintendo games always usually stands the tests of time, but the narrative in them never really "clicks" with me. I don't find Nintendo games engaging in a story sense, but in a gameplay sense, they are the top of their class. If Nintendo could make their stories less formulaic, their games would be dang near perfect. But then again, many games don't need a good story to be amazing, and Nintendo has proven this.

No I don't. The gameplay in most Nintendo games is honestly far better and more interesting than in mostly triple A third party games, and the presentation aspects are usually done really well too, especially compared to other games with a similar art style (you're probably not gonna find a better looking platformer than one of the Nintendo ones).

Toki Tori 2 maybe? Or at least I'm inclined to think after seeing this video.

Yeah, but that's 'metroidvania'. Really only 3D games are termed 'open world'. The joke was supposed to be something like 'if Metroidvania is this, then what in the hell would a 2D open world game be.'

I completely agree with that. The actual plots in most video games are really quite lazy and cliched. But quite a few of them are very well told. Ocarina is told brilliantly.
I'd say the same applies to most of the earlier Final Fantasy games. FF10 has one of the most insane and idiotic plots in all of fiction but the first person narrative is incredibly well done.

So, here's one outdated thing Nintendo did today;
Announce a free amiibo downloadable title that let's you play old NES/SNES games that Nintendo can't possibly be profiting from anymore... for 3 minutes at a time. Oh, and also the character has no relation to the game you'll get, so Mario gets you Zelda, Samus Kid Icarus, and Link a Kirby game :/

Also, PLEASE be excited for Puzzle & Dragon!!1!1

Meh, I don't know why people get annoyed about free content. I have all these Amiibo anyways and for the people who haven't you know they're going to be suckered into Yarn Yoshi and Animal Crossing cards. If your argument is that they should be full games well fine, but people do download their full VC titles. I mean I'm not interested because I have a decent collection of VC titles already, most via the 3DS Ambassador thing or way back from the Wii VC. But for people who don't? People who maybe got a few Amiibo? What's wrong with yet another Amiibo unlock?

As for Puzzle & Dragon well, not really my cup of tea. But I remember quite a lot of people being really into Jewel Quest and it really just sounds like a more elaborate version of that. Plus I know people who are into fantasy RPGs AND match 3 puzzle games so, this kinda fits the bill pretty well. There's a market for everything.

Well, if you consider their games "outdated" because they aren't story-heavy and mostly side-scrolling, then yeah they are outdated. Funny thing is, Miyamoto said once in a interview that he likes novels more then games. But mister Miyamoto, you can also tell a story IN a game! However, his reasoning was linearity (in the novel). I don't think that's something we have to encourage. Less linearity please!!

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one!

I did go out and pick up the HD remaster though. Just getting ready to leave Besaid and I'm already about ready to throw in the towel lol. I think... I think I might return it.

The thing is it's not free content, Amiibo are like $12+ and they do nothing unless you spend $180 on several specific titles, in which case they unlock tiny niggling cosmetic DLC. Amiibo are being sold as interactive statues, but they don't do anything, so they're just static action figures.

For 3 minute demos... why even waste your breath?