There's some debate as whether Nintendo's games are behind the times compared to game like Skyrim, Mass Effect, GTA, etc. So in terms of gameplay, graphics, content, and story, do you think Nintendo games are outdated?
In my opinion Nintendo games are mostly timeless. Games that rely on mechanics rather than story and graphics can't really be outdated, can they? Isn't that why the Retro Indie industry found its way into today's market?
All of this is debatable, and the answers are going to tend to lean towards "no" and "category doesn't matter" on a Nintendo fan site like this. Any anti-Nintendo post I make tends to be taken to harshly, though I am overall a big fan.
Nintendo games have their own charm & magic to them that is timeless, but there are definite elements to them that are debatable as to whether or not they are outdated. I think those that say that refer to Nintendo's "approach".
An example would be a game like Mass Effect, which you mention. A very heavily story-based game with "choice->consequence" options. This is something it seems the minds at Nintendo wouldn't think of (not that whatever they're similarly working on is better or worse, just different). They also would have never thought to make something as large/open as Skyrim, unless otherwise influenced by it like Aonuma has stated.
Nintendo seems to be a company that is "stuck in their ways" due to their great success. It is highly debatable whether or not they should change how they due things because they have so many classics and successes under their belt. It's likely if they were change their style to be a different way that they'd make some great things, but likely not as many or as great as they always have, as it isn't really their style. They're very good at what they do, which is: Fun, gameplay-oriented colorful games.
It's moreso that they don't try to be what they're not than being behind the times. If they wanted to make a story-based game, I'm sure they either have someone there that could do it, or they could bring in someone to handle that aspect. They just don't think it's the most appealing part of playing a game. And they never did. You have to remember, many of the people who handle the creative things there are the ones that were there from the beginning. Shiggy, I believe, oversees everything, still.
So, I don't think it's such a wild concept as many here probably will. I think it's just a way of looking at what Nintendo has always done. It's different, unique to them, moreso than anything else.
Graphics can be outdated, but thats only limited by the stupid decisions the company makes creating the hardware. The online portions in their games are the most outdated part of their games.
This thread is basically you asking "are Nintendo's graphics bad for their time," and the answer to that is something everyone has known since the Wii era.
If you want to get all technical, Everyone else has derived some sort of game from Nintendo games. Platformers, RPGs, Puzzle games, most were pioneered by nintendo. That is not to say Nintendo was the first to do it all but they were the first to do it very well. So when something is outdated I highly doubt it because everyone else has at one point tried to be like nintendo. So, no. Not outdated at all. More like rehashed as has everyone else.
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Only considering gameplay. I think some have reached their limit (Mario Kart, Smash) due to limitations imposed by the nature of the game. MK8 & SSBU didn't do much for me and don't feel they have anywhere substantial to go forward (there are diminish returns there IMO). I think Super Mario (3D) and Zelda can really go anywhere since the nature of the games is fairly open ended.
If you're talking about the lack of microtransactions and the fact that there's actually gameplay in their games then yes, but that's a good thing.
Yep, pretty much this.
As as far as graphics go, I'd take ten games with stylized visuals such as Wind Waker before even one drab, uber-realistic, brown-and-grey title. But hey, that's me.
@LetsGoRetro But even when they've recycled IPs, they usually put some kind of spin on them that makes them feel different from previous entries. Look at Mario Galaxy, is that game really stuck in its ways? It uses the same formula as 64 and Sunshine, but that's right where the similarities end, other than that it's an entirely new experience. So they do do things differently usually, but they've failed to do that this gen.
Nintendo has stuck by a formula that has worked for them and I really can't blame them for that. Don't fix what isn't broken! Their games always tend to throw in new ideas as well without disrupting what makes their games fun.
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There's some debate as whether Nintendo's games are behind the times compared to game like Skyrim, Mass Effect, GTA, etc. So in terms of gameplay, graphics, content, and story, do you think Nintendo games are outdated?
Your 3 examples are all mature games. You are making a really loaded question! The Playstation and Xbox gamers got lured in by CGI intros and cut scenes along time ago (when the actual game looked nothing like them!)back in the N64 era. A lot are idiots chasing games that play like cut scenes (and they tend to have to be violent ones!) needing the most powerful hardware for their eye candy. Each generations games have even more impressive cutscenes that they hope the next generation can match. They are happier that Ronaldo looks like Ronaldo as opposed to an unknown footballer that handles better.
What I am trying to say is, Nintendo are not behind the times. On the contrary, their game crafting is way ahead still. But their perception of the majority playing games is outdated. In secondary schools, all the kids talk about GTA and CoD etc etc. These kids don't know what a good game is they just herd together in their gangs taking the piss out of anyone different. They just know knicking cars and shooting folks is cool. When they grow up, they will be nostalgic about GTA and CoD (not Mario). I am really ok about Nintendo not catering for that mind set. The mindset that to me is the gaming equivalent of being a football supporter.
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