81skywakeThu 1st Aug 2013 ToxieDogg wrote: skywake wrote: As a side note there are only three non-Nintendo games in the top 25 selling games of all time. GTA:SA on the PS2, Kinect Adventures on the 360 and GTA:VC on the PS2. Which list is this, and can you provide a link to it? I was under the impression that games like The Sims (which sell far more on PC than consoles), Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy 7 appeared in the top 25 selling games of all time, even though it is still predominately made up of Nintendo games. VGChartz. Looking at Wikipedia though I think you're right about The Sims, the first two Sims should probably just squeeze in there but for some reason VGChartz doesn't have them. Well it's there but it has a much lower number of units, maybe Wikipedia counts expansions or something similar. No idea. That said if you look at Wikipedia's page on this it looks pretty much the same. Maybe with The Sims or the original Sonic fighting over the 25th spot with Vice City. Nothing that alters the point I was making in that post. That it's not just the "dedicated Nintendo fans" buying Nintendo's games when they do well.  oh and GT sells well but not enough to get into the top 25. It's an arbitrary cutoff engineered to make the point better but it's still interesting. FF7 is well behind on this list.... very good but sub 10mill units... Edited on Thu 1st August, 2013 @ 12:11 by skywake Some good Aussie musics: King Gizzard, Pond, The Avalanches "Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"