Topic: Do gamers even know why they dislike Nintendo ?

I think the title is a trick question because if they are really gamers then they will love nintendo not this garbage that is mostly the same

It was only the other day i was reading on this website, how COD wasn't but now is coming to Nintendo. You lot slag other console off because of COD, but yet here you all are playing it yourself, thats what i find funny in fact ironic.

GUYS, NINTENDO FANS ARE ALL ONE PERSON WITH THE SAME OPINION

APPARENTLY

I'm not sober enough to undertanAc the question

but I'm going t say yes

Considering many of the AAA third party companies can't even show proper support for their own late, old ports on the Wii U, I can't blame Nintendo if they start snubbing them.
Missing chunks of what should be standard content, no DLC, better alternatives coming out in a close time-frame on other systems that COULD have gone on Wii U at the same time instead of the worse alternative[Mass Effect collection], no lower pricings for these games that people have played before on other systems, and all of these things are being used by the AAA third parties to justify them tucking tail and running for Sony and Micro's hills when their poor attempts at making games available on the system don't see the sales they want them to have.

I mean, seriously, Nintendo are practically SAINTS for putting up with that BS without SAYING anything to them about it!
They're practically the very definition of "patience" when it comes to putting up with that kind of abuse.

AlexSays being drunk on the internet is too believable for me to handle.

I don't even care that that's a cheap shot.

Dreamcast was going to have DVD, but it failed game wise to ever get that far. Every system would have had DVD besides GCN if Sega would have lived, and Nintendo would have probably given into to trends like everyone wants them to do.

@banacheck
We've also been arguing that it WOULD come to Wii U, and people would probably support it if it got DLC. Plus, it's supposed to be the same version as Xbox One and PS4 with the GamePad, Wii remotes, free online, and DLC has been comfirmed.
COD is generally very repetitive, but people that play on Nintendo systems haven't played the "good" version on Nintendo systems. Add the extra features Wii U offers on the remote side and Nintendo fans are happy.
If you don't think Wii U is a good system by this, then there isn't going to any convincing. I bought the console "just for kicks", and it's getting better no doubt.
I just figured the time I was having on Xbox 360 and PS3 was getting bland, so I got the first 8th gen console I could get my hands on.

I think it was a good purchase.

As for the OP, I think they have a general idea why they don't like Nintendo, but that doesn't necessarily mean they hate them. If someone likes Gears, Halo, Xbox Live, etc, they're gonna choose Xbox. They'll say why they don't like Nintendo, but Nintendo is also doing things others aren't that people may prefer just as much, so the whole thing's mutual.

You don't prefer Nintendo, I don't prefer PS. It sounds fair to me, so I don't see it being that big of a deal. People actually used to give me crap for liking Nintendo, but once they saw Starfox, RE4, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, etc, they were more inclined to give Nintendo some credit for appealing to anyone. Hell, I liked Battlefront 2, God of War, Gears of War, etc, but I was satisfied with only owning Nintendo.

I didn't have a choice to get any other system just until last generation. Just like you said, that mom isn't gonna buy their kid an Xbox One, so that child's choice system is off the table.
Even PS2 selling so well is reminiscent of not always having your choice console. I knew tons of people that got PS2 just because, and stuck with it.
I chose GCN over PS2 many years ago, and was mildly interested in Xbox because of the Mad Dash demo.

@smashbrolink Too bloody right! real gamers are the only ones that know it's the 3rd parties fault for their lackluster games... Whereas the Ninty software is top notch quality and shows by the way they sell well

Apparently it's trendy to hate Nintendo. I have very FEW friends that like/play Nintendo games and I only have one other friend that has a Wii U. The day I got my Wii U, I asked 5 of my friends if they wanted to come over and play it, and they were a bit skeptical. So I lied and said okay, let's have a Counter-Strike LAN party or something and they were all up for it. Little did they know that I lied, and they spent like three hours laughing and giggling just making Miis alone! Once we got to Nintendo Land, the neighbors actually came over to check that everything was okay because they thought that people were being tortured in my house. I'll tell you I've never seen my friends scream so much (in joy) over a game like that before! After a full 12 hours of playing Wii U when my friends started to go home, none of them even realized that we didn't play Counter-Strike, because they were having so much fun.

I really think that once people try out the Wii U, they will appreciate it more. Unfortunately, many people are naive and ignorant of what the Wii U has to offer, so they don't know what amazing fun it can provide!

Why do so many people here make it out to be one or the other? Apparently you either love Sony/Microsoft systems and hate Nintendo, or you love Nintendo and hate Sony/Microsoft. And if you are in the latter, doesn't that make you just as bad as someone who hates Nintendo? Stop being exclusive to a certain company/system and just enjoy games.

Because when the PS2 doubled as a DVD player out of the box people didn't care because the Dreamcast was maybe eventually going to include an add-on for DVD playback. Right........

because it's the internet

From what I've seen outside this website, there is a bigger divide between Sony and Microsoft fanboys. They hate each other more than they hate Nintendo

Yup. Honestly, I loved Sega and Nintendo. I had no interest in PS. If I would have known Sega Saturn or Dreancast existed before they died, I probably would have had those systems.
Also, Nintendo had DVD GCNs in Japan, and planned on having Wii play DVDs. The idea isn't uncommon. I just think that's not their priority, so it usually gets kicked to the side.

@Brooks83
I like Wii U and Xbox One. I don't like PS4, because their games play out like movies, IMO. My brother even said the same thing, and he's not on the internet talking about video games like me. He honestly had that opinion. He thinks it's interesting how Nathan Drake has extreme luck, and Fat Princess can stand face to face with Kratos or the Killzone guy in PS Battle.

EDIT: BTW, I don't like PS games as much, because I think the gameplay is somewhat limited. I can do more in COD vs. Killzone. I've played Uncharted 2, and I think the difficulty and fairness of real possible situations that weren't given as options.
Plus, I just don't like the Dual Shock 1/2/3/4. The analog sticks are never accurate for me, and I was displeased that some games on PS1 didn't support the analog sticks when they should have.

How is that any more ludicrious than having Peach fighting Bowser hand to hand in Smash Bros.?

IDK. I just think Nintendo's characters have more similarities to each other than PS characters in terms of artstyle.
The only characters I saw that could have belonged in the same game were Parapa, Fat Princess, that little cat thing, and the flame hair guy. The rest were more fitting to be fighting each other.

I guess the same could be said about Smash, like comparing Ness and Mario to Captain Falcon, Link, etc more realistic characters. Peach and Bowser are part of the same game world; Captain Falcon, Fox, Samus, and just any Nintendo character in general just seems more fitting, IMO.
Link and Marth are basically Nintendo's Kratos, but they fight by the idea of honor and peace, while Kratos is obnoxious and vengeful. I don't recall Nintendo characters ever mutilating other creatures in blood and hate, then fighting a rapper and a cartoon that dance and stuff.

You're missing my very, very simple point. The PS2 was a cheap DVD player that happened to be a game console at a time when DVD playback was a big deal. The Gamecube and Dreamcast were not and that fact was a large reason for the PS2's early success. I'm surprised this generally undisputed fact of the PS2's reasons for success has been disputed by two people in this thread. Ridiculous.

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for some perspective in 2002 I remember DVD players costing more than $300AU. That was 2002, the PS3 launched in 2000. It having DVD playback as a feature was massive especially given the format it was replacing was VHS. Now it's almost a non-issue.

IDK. I just think Nintendo's characters have more similarities to each other than PS characters in terms of artstyle.

It's funny how biased this is. Judging appropriateness based on an art style

I guess the same could be said about Smash, like comparing Ness and Mario to Captain Falcon, Link, etc more realistic characters. Peach and Bowser are part of the same game world; Captain Falcon, Fox, Samus, and just any Nintendo character in general just seems more fitting, IMO.

That's not what he was getting at whatsoever. Drake's extreme luck and Fat Princess' ability to stand up to Kratos is comparable to Peach's helplessness when up against Bowser in the Mario universe (canon).

@Skywake
Ya, and that makes sense, but I didn't really associate DVDs playback with a gaming machine. I thought GCN delivered better games, so it was worth sacrificing DVD playback, and I had a DVD player anyway.

@brooks83
Also, for the character comparisons, it's more interesting for me to associate Captain Falcon and other characters.
Fox looks more realistic than the cat thing. If animals talked, Nintendo does a better job of portrayal than Sony does.
I'm pretty sure no one saw the type of decisions Nintendo would have made back in the NES days. NES graphics were mainly similar, and "childish" graphics weren't in mind for future entries. People always want the Zelda TP type graphics, and want Metroid Prime to be Halo.
It's kind of hard to explain, but Metroid Prime Hunters and games like F-Zero show that Nintendo has a "mature" audience. Even Starfox has potential to be a more serious title, despite having talking animals. Starfox Assault was awesome, IMO, and that was the kind of "hardcore" game I wanted. You wouldn't believe the type of speculation and rumors there was flying around when Metroid Prime 3 was announced and in development. We all thought Metroid Prime was going to be Halo, and Captain Falcon along with Fox were going to super hardcore on Wii, but perhaps it's better they skipped a generation with those titles, because it makes a bigger imoact later on.
Not saying they will take that sort of action, but it would leave a big impression at this point, IMO. When is God of War or Killzone gonna tone down the violence? Probably never, but Nintendo can still take those sort of actions with arguably better IP characters.

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@Chrono_Crossing
How is giving artsyle a reason for my better understanding of characters, biased? Peach gets captured by Bower, ya, but that's beside the point that Peach is still a pretty good fighter in Smash Bros which is a different situation entirely.

Also, who's to say what I can and can't like, despite clear reason? If you like Nintendo characters more than PS characters, you're biased. If you like PS characters more than Nintendo characters, you're... Not biased? That doesn't make any sense, that's why I argue it's not worth pulling out the "biased" card.

Over an art style that has no relevance to any franchise, is not a clear reason. And yes, it's a different situation but it's a situation that can be applied to Drake's and FP's.

You can like whatever you want but if you're going to partake in a discussion where you compare games, you need to back it up with actual reason(s). Then again you're Scar the boy wonder.

I was just making the point that it was a large part of the reason why the PS2 sold as well as it did. By the time the Gamecube and XBox launched the Dreamcast had already been discontinued and the PS2 already had its early momentum. Then the XBox had DVD playback and the Gamecube didn't and it was still an important feature for a while. By the time DVD-Playback wasn't really a selling point anymore the damage had been done.

If you got a console of that generation even as early as late 2002 it probably wouldn't have been something you cared about.