No, for real, that's just insane. I already saw a few people change their attitude from what it was in February, I guess some still need some wait-and-see. If you guys want to wait for the wave of big Nintendo games to come out, that's totally understandable. But don't be saying dumb stuff on the console when my example and like I said millions of others, can show you wrong.
You don't wanna play, fine. I don't care; Nintendo does, not me. But don't act as if some of us aren't playing.
Now, please tell me what point you want me to further elaborate.
I might not be out of the building but I'm definitely NOT in the building. Then where am I?
Your logic doesn't make sense. Pikmin 3 hasn't even set its feet on the ground and in another month we're getting Wonderful lol. So, two games that won't move consoles that are launching over a course of two months. Fingers crossed!
@DePapier Nintendo made a graph as part of a financial briefing in 2007. It shows hardware sales for Europe at the time before Sony cut the PS3 price, where it had it's worst sales.
20,000 PS3s being sold a week in Europe at it's lowest point. Now Nintendo sold 10,000 units in 3 months between Europe and Australia. Since we don't know the split, let's be generous and just say they sold 10,000 in Europe to make this a best case scenario. There was 13 weeks the April to June quarter. That's an average of 769 consoles sold a week. That's quite a bit worse than the PS3's worst ever sales of 20k a week, and we all know the number is lower because some of the 10,000 units were sold in Australia.
In a statement provided to Eurogamer, Asda said that it had expanded its range of 3DS games and 3DS XL consoles, and that customers who still wanted to pick up a Wii U from a bricks and mortar Asda shop could buy one online and pick it up in-store.
@Peach64 Thank you for your sources. You're right, the Wii U had significantly less sales per month than the PS3: I'll wait for the numbers of the PS4 and of the Xbox One to judge as they belong to the same generation.
I didn't know about that update on the ASDA situation either. I still wonder why they kept the console back then as a company for which selling games is not their primary venture, since as you've shown the console was dramatically not selling in Europe for the past months.
I've said this once to no answer but I want to say this again: on what ground are we consumers actually supposed to care about the sales of Nintendo's platform? Is any of those complaining here investing in Nintendo or something? Was any of us in that room Iwata showed in the Nintendo@E3 Direct the last few months? You guys afraid Nintendo will no longer support their own platform, with the launch of Wii U software just starting now? Or are you seriously planning to buy the Wii U for third-party support, as some claim they did?
Nintendo knew they couldn't release their games on time, so they knew such a situation would happen: they have their way of financially handle such situations, that's why they got money in the bank. Heck, I'm quite sure they ended the last fiscal year in the green, while Sony were selling their NYC HQ to stay positive.
How would you react if, for their own reasons, the same thing — if not worse — were to happen to the PS4 and the Xbox One? What I'm really wondering is, with all the hype going on, how would Sony and Microsoft handle it?
I've said this once to no answer but I want to say this again: on what ground are we consumers actually supposed to care about the sales of Nintendo's platform? Is any of those complaining here investing in Nintendo or something? Was any of us in that room Iwata showed in the Nintendo@E3 Direct the last few months? You guys afraid Nintendo will no longer support their own platform, with the launch of Wii U software just starting now? Or are you seriously planning to buy the Wii U for third-party support, as some claim they did?
This can be applied to you as well as many others. I'm not the one worried (if Nintendo went under I'd be sad no doubt), but this discussion is definitely on topic and appropriate. Fans get worried when their favorite company isn't doing great and, as it looks for the next year or so, it's not going to change dramatically.
I purchased a Wii U last December and I don't want to be abandoned by a company that made bad decisions.
How would you react if, for their own reasons, the same thing — if not worse — were to happen to the PS4 and the Xbox One? What I'm really wondering is, with all the hype going on, how would Sony and Microsoft handle it?
This is about Nintendo, not Sony and Microsoft.
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@Chrono_Crossing
Nintendo is fine, so that's why some of us might sound confused when people say they're not. There's even an article here on NL stating they still made profit while Wii U was "failing". Wii U isn't doing as well as it could, but Nintendo has alot of resources to keep everything on the up and up.
@DePapier The thing is though is that people tend to have emotional attachments to certain brands and companies, which is why fanboys exist. When one gets very close to a particular company (in this case Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft), they treat it, for lack of a better term, like "family" and lash out harshly to anything negative directed towards said beloved company, even though it obviously never happens the other way around.
@rallydefault hypocrisy? First off, you don't understand what I mean by drought. I don't mean 'not coming out with games' drought. I mean 'not coming out with games THAT MOVE CONSOLES' drought. And Nintendo not having console moving games is it's biggest problem. Low install base is why 3rd parties are taking a 'wait & see' approach. That's why ASDA is cutting their stock. All the games that are out, that you mentioned (pikmin3 excluded because we have to see how it does) do not move consoles. If they did Nintendo wouldn't have a lackluster quarterly report. That's why I mentioned the bigger games that will come out that should, SHOULD move consoles. But even some of them are iffy. So please somebody, anybody tell me where I'm wrong.
Well then please pardon me, as the term "drought" used by most people implies that there is a distinct lack of something, and in the video game industry it most commonly refers to a basic lack of titles hitting a given platform.
I'm sorry I wasn't going by your personal definition.
@DePapier you and every person who owns a wii U have invested in Nintendo. You've put your money on this platform, in this company doing well. The fate of this consoles long term viability comes down to the next 6-9 months. Sales like this quarter is not sustainable. And the only 2 reasons Nintendo is in the black (or green as you put it) is because of great 3DS & and the devaluing of the Yen. Right now the wii U is not doing well. Can it pick up, yes. Will it pick up, you've bet $300-$350USD on it. I'm not willing to make that wager, yet
You said it: I have invested in Nintendo. And as you've also put it, you haven't. What gives you the right to pretend my console has issues when not only I can testify from experience that it plays well and that I enjoy it, but also when the company which makes it was financially wise enough to stay profitable in the absence of its games, which allows Nintendo to keep its staff and to ensure that the delayed games — such as Pikmin 3 — can respect Nintendo's promise of quality?
The Wii U currently does not sell well, and I'm not here to deny that. But fomenting that the Wii U as a whole is in trouble is incorrect, since its parent company — and I'm sticking to comparing it to its competitors' — is not in a financial pinch. Not only that, but since its parent company is now able to release quality games for it at a convincing pace and since the first one of these games have just been released (in Europe), as an investor who enjoys the game and experience the potential of future Nintendo releases, I have nothing to worry about.
My real worries though, are those who try to make me believe otherwise.
@DePapier what gives me the right to pretend you console is in trouble. I get that right by reading Nintendo's QUARTERLY REPORT. If you know how to read a company's quarterly earnings report you'll be able to tell what products a company's selling are in trouble. And just because a company itself is doing good doesn't mean they don't have a product that flops. Was it windows 6 (maybe it was windows 7) that was horrible, even though Microsoft as a company still did fine.
@uptownsoul
Uhm ... do you mean Windows 8? Windows 7 was a great success for Microsoft, and "Windows 6"? Do you mean Vista?
As far as reading the thread, I pop in here from time to time when I have a minute or two. I don't have enough time to read every letter typed. I envy you if you don't know what that feels like. Good day.
@DePapier what gives me the right to pretend you console is in trouble. I get that right by reading Nintendo's QUARTERLY REPORT. If you know how to read a company's quarterly earnings report you'll be able to tell what products a company's selling are in trouble. And just because a company itself is doing good doesn't mean they don't have a product that flops. Was it windows 6 (maybe it was windows 7) that was horrible, even though Microsoft as a company still did fine.
Nintendo is aware of this and is working on fixing this issue while securing the means to fix this problem: profitably. Once you're profitable you can tell your investors that you won't be doing lay-offs and they shut up. Once you're profitable you can keep on working and put your plan to fruition without fearing the unexpected, especially when you've made sure you have the cash in the bank to face it and so you keep moving forward.
You're not investing, you're not concerned. I am investing, I should be concerned. However, I have all the necessarily elements and my own enjoyment not to be. As a matter of fact, it's because of unconcerned people like you — and I respect your reasons — that it appears that I should be concerned: people actually wanting the Wii U but not buying one. Even then, Nintendo is fine, they are carrying out their plan, and I am feeling and enjoying the first glimpse of it.
So when you read numbers and tell a gamer that he should be worried, please take in mind who is playing and who actually invested.
"Nintendo shifted just 160,000 Wii U consoles worldwide - 90,000 in Japan, 60,000 in North America and 10,000 in Europe and Australia."
You pointed out 10k, but please point out "sold", because all I see is "shifted", which means "Move or cause to move from one place to another". In other words - "Shipped".
"Nintendo shifted just 160,000 Wii U consoles worldwide - 90,000 in Japan, 60,000 in North America and 10,000 in Europe and Australia."
You pointed out 10k, but please point out "sold", because all I see is "shifted", which means "Move or cause to move from one place to another". In other words - "Shipped".
"Nintendo shifted just 160,000 Wii U consoles worldwide - 90,000 in Japan, 60,000 in North America and 10,000 in Europe and Australia."
You pointed out 10k, but please point out "sold", because all I see is "shifted", which means "Move or cause to move from one place to another". In other words - "Shipped".
So you're dismissing one article for another that has that one word changed. Now neither can be proven.
I'm saying "shifted" is referring to sold. You can find the story all over the internet. You are allowed to make your own opinions on it the news, but the sales figures (unless they be inaccurate for some reason) are fact.
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