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skywake

Octane wrote:

Not really. The components of a Wii Remote get cheaper over time as well; I doubt that Nintendo would use the same accelerometer in twenty years from now, because more accurate accelerometers will be available for the same price the original accelerometer was.

Well except that they haven't, they would and even if they did they wouldn't be cheaper. Just because it's electrical doesn't mean it gets cheaper over time. Things like flash and processors follow that sort of curve very well. Other things like batteries, speakers, accelerometers, motors, buttons and plastic casings don't. Controllers are built of stuff that hasn't gotten rapidly cheaper or changed much for a long time.

I'm sure there's a fairly decent markup across all of them but other than bluetooth there's nothing in the Pro Controller that wasn't also in controllers from the N64 era.

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LzWinky

Out of curiosity, what "proof" does anyone have here that tells us how much accessories cost to make?

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Dave24

Pahvi wrote:

How has Sony's PS3 controllers changed in price since their release? The ones I see in stores now are about 50e a piece (which is why my second PS3 controller wasn't made by Sony).

Maybe because they dropped that one technology piece that they wanted people to forget about and looks like it works, because you don't know/forgot about it? Could be that...

Probably worst example you could give.

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Aluwolf

Pahvi wrote:

How has Sony's PS3 controllers changed in price since their release? The ones I see in stores now are about 50e a piece (which is why my second PS3 controller wasn't made by Sony).

I did a bit of googling and the launch sixasis controllers were 5 dollars less than current ps3 controllers. Obviously new controllers are slightly cheaper after inflation, but it is still disappointing that all of these controllers are still so much money.

It's hard to find launch prices as these things were poorly documented but at one point the gamecube controller was as low as 25 dollars around the time the wii first launched.

That's 28 dollars in todays money. Yet a last gen wii controller and nunchuck costs 60. Kind of annoying how everyone is holding onto high priced last gen controllers. I could understand if they released an improved analog stick nunchuck and better sound on the actual wii mote, but really there's nothing. Sony and Nintendo are just retaining controller prices because they know they will sell regardless.

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unrandomsam

WaLzgi wrote:

Out of curiosity, what "proof" does anyone have here that tells us how much accessories cost to make?

The actual magazine that this is in (That has the controller as well). http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2014/02/teardown.cfm that is where the $15 came from.

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Vincent294

I agree on the Gamecube adapter and Amiibo shortages, but the rest...nothing special there.

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Endriu7777

Pahvi wrote:

Dave24 wrote:

Maybe because they dropped that one technology piece that they wanted people to forget about and looks like it works, because you don't know/forgot about it? Could be that...

Probably worst example you could give.

Yes it is far more alive. And its perfectly understandable: Even though nintendo creates great games they also make many mistakes in a lot of fields (I guess thats why many people say they should quit making consoles and start releasing their games on different hardware). The wii was a console aimed at the casual gamer and according to many it was doomed to fail, yet it succeeded at what it tried to be. However, and I think many will agree, nintendo could have gone a lot further with the wii back in the day. They were pioneers of sorts when it came to motion controls, others copied it one way or another, and thats fantastic. BUT why didnt they create an hd console back in the day, they must have know that hd is on its way and there is no turning back? Bringing in motion controls is fantastic but why not add it as an additional feature that might appeal to casual gamers and try to focus on the core gamer as well or in the first place. The wii effect has worn off over time - I guess some casual gamers might have even switched to xbox or ps3 because they wanted something more and in hd. - In my opinion Nintendo should be more versatile and appealing to the mass market, still doing their own thing with their own games but leaving a door or even lots of doors open for third parties.

I bought a PS3 in 2014 and hadn't bothered following the controller prices until then (why should I have?). That's why I didn't know what the controller price had been. Second, isn't PS3 even now far more alive than Wii was when Wii U came out, with actual new games being released?

(EDIT: Dropped the nested quote.)

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HollywoodHogan

WaLzgi wrote:

Out of curiosity, what "proof" does anyone have here that tells us how much accessories cost to make?

Pro tip: Expensive, mass produced plastic items made in factories in China are far cheaper to make than anywhere else. This is why they are made in factories in China.

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rallydefault

Woof. I think this varies wildly depending on where you are from (and how much you're willing to exaggerate claims under an anonymous internet forum moniker). Around me, Wii U accessories/games/hardware cost no more than Xbox/PS equivalents. In fact, Nintendo stuff is generally cheaper. Controllers by about 10 bucks, console itself is loads cheaper, and I get all of my games digitally (same prices as any other system, really).

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skywake

Aluwolf wrote:

It's hard to find launch prices as these things were poorly documented but at one point the gamecube controller was as low as 25 dollars around the time the wii first launched.

That's 28 dollars in todays money. Yet a last gen wii controller and nunchuck costs 60. Kind of annoying how everyone is holding onto high priced last gen controllers. I could understand if they released an improved analog stick nunchuck and better sound on the actual wii mote, but really there's nothing. Sony and Nintendo are just retaining controller prices because they know they will sell regardless.

1. Towards the end of a console generation retailers tend to sell stuff at a loss so they can clear stock
2. These controllers are still being produced because there's still a market for them (Wii on Wii U, 360 on PC)
3. $28 is actually pretty close to what you can get a new wired 360 controller for
4. I personally grabbed a Wavebird in 2007 for $56AU, I could easily get a Wii U Pro Controller now for $57AU

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