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SCAR392

21. Posted:

The problem is with putting these games on eShop, is that it will basically make Wii completely obsolete, as Wii did with GCN. 3DS will eventually get GBA, maybe DS, while Wii U can possibly get GCN and Wii, along with the Wii VC in Wii Menu, that could be implemented into the Wii U once all their consoles are up on the shop. The only way I could see Wii Menu still being used at this point, is for the disc based games, and Wii Speak if they decide to go all digital, but by that point, it might just be on the Wii U menu. They would have to 'update' the program codes to run on the Wii U as if it was originally made for it.

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I imagine something will be announced at E3. Similar to how Pikmin 2 was re-released for Wii (in NA) likely to build upon hype for the upcoming sequel, I can see them saying something about Melee (and of course other titles) becoming VC after/before they announce the new Smash Bros.

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Personally, I'd like to see gamecube games get remade for the Wii U. The obvious update to all of these would be graphical, which I think they could all look great.

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-Up to six players could play locally. Four on the tv and two each with a gamepad.
-Players riding in the back of the kart would get their own screen and be able to look around 360 degrees for aiming projectile items.

4. Luigi's Mansion
-The gamepad would display the gameboy horror.
-Can play with gamepad or wii remote and nunchuck.
-Loss of analog triggers, but the ability to access six buttons while keeping both thumbs on the joysticks (doubling the amount from the gamecube version). It wouldn't be a huge difference, but it would just be a nice improvement.
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-Use a gamepad for the tingle tuner.

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-Seeing as how the game is two generations old, I think they should be capable of loading two rooms at a time, so the two players can go explore anywhere without having to stay close to each other.

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SCAR392 wrote:

The problem is with putting these games on eShop, is that it will basically make Wii completely obsolete, as Wii did with GCN.

...That's certainly not a problem for Nintendo, at least.

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I seriously doubt they will add more features than what the originals had, besides HD and audio improvements. They're gonna make new games, and add the new available features to NEW games, not the old ones. It's possible, but they need to make new games. Would you rather have a new Mario Kart, or just get updated features for a 9 year old Mario Kart? As for Tingle Tuner, it would be alot better to have a 3DS be Tingle, because the Gamepad would still count as a possible regular controller for Link. All these ideas would work, but it really comes down to whether you want a new game entirely, or recycle all the old games w/ new features.

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@SCAR392, et. al. — this thread is about whether you think GC games will be coming to the Wii U via the eShop VC. Please, let's keep it to that and leave anything that would violate our Community Rules out of this conversation. Thanks in advance!

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I doubt we will see any honestly

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28. Posted:

For me it wouldn't really matter since I still have both my Wii and my Gamecube and a few Gamecube games that I still play from time to time. Still it would be a smart option for Nintendo to release them for people who aren't like me and don't have either system for whatever reason. As of now the only GC games that I could do with is Luigi's Mansion and MKDD since I never really played those ones. Now if they offered those on the eShop than those would be instant buys for me.

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SCAR392

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I would probably buy them for the updated visuals/audio, but only if I have some extra cash burning a hole in my pocket. I'd way rather buy new stuff, but I haven't played Wind Waker or Mario Sunshine in years, so those would be my first GCN games on Wii U if they get VC releases. F-Zero GX would be awesome, but again... Please make new ones, with all the features people are asking you to put in 9-12 year old games!

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Something tells me a thread about whether or not Gamecube games are gonna come to the Wii U isn't the best place to ask for brand new games...just saying...

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31. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

I seriously doubt they will add more features than what the originals had, besides HD and audio improvements. They're gonna make new games, and add the new available features to NEW games, not the old ones. It's possible, but they need to make new games. Would you rather have a new Mario Kart, or just get updated features for a 9 year old Mario Kart? As for Tingle Tuner, it would be alot better to have a 3DS be Tingle, because the Gamepad would still count as a possible regular controller for Link. All these ideas would work, but it really comes down to whether you want a new game entirely, or recycle all the old games w/ new features.

The Wii U will be able to communicate with two gamepads, thus eliminating the problem you just mentioned.
They would have different teams working on the remakes and the new games, just like the team that made OoT3D and Starfox643D aren't the same teams that make the main games in the series'.

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SCAR392 wrote:

I seriously doubt they will add more features than what the originals had, besides HD and audio improvements. They're gonna make new games, and add the new available features to NEW games, not the old ones. It's possible, but they need to make new games. Would you rather have a new Mario Kart, or just get updated features for a 9 year old Mario Kart? As for Tingle Tuner, it would be alot better to have a 3DS be Tingle, because the Gamepad would still count as a possible regular controller for Link. All these ideas would work, but it really comes down to whether you want a new game entirely, or recycle all the old games w/ new features.

The Wii U will be able to communicate with two gamepads, thus eliminating the problem you just mentioned.
They would have different teams working on the remakes and the new games, just like the team that made OoT3D and Starfox643D aren't the same teams that make the main games in the series'.

True. They COULD enhance the VC games by adding modern features, especially with different teams, but it's likely they won't. The only thing I can see the Gamepad doing for the VC games is having restore points and restart etc. VC options, but not having actual gameplay. Remakes are different from VC releases. VC releases don't change the gameplay or additional features from the original, just the visuals/audio(Street Fighter 2 is an exception on Wii, and PS3/Xbox do it alot actually). They technically wouldn't be retro VC games like the Wii had in otherwords. I don't really see the point of adding new features to old games. If I could give up a VC release of F-Zero GX, for a new F-Zero entirely, I would choose a new one built from the ground up for Wii U.

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1. I don't consider it likely, but I would like to see it.
2. I know the difference between a remake and a VC release. I don't know where you got the idea that I didn't.
3. I'm going to continue to play these old games, probably for the rest of my life. I see no reason why it wouldn't be nice to have an upgraded version of the game.
If I had to choose between an old game and a new game, then I would pick a new game. But it is really nice to play updated version of old games.

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As much as people think it would be a great idea to enhance the old games, I think it really would hinder the further development of the new stuff. They could potentially use the said 'remake' team for the development on a new game. Chances are, a remake with extra features would go unnoticed by people looking forward to the new entry anyway, with all the same features plus the new stuff it brings to the table that still basically has the same gameplay mechanics as the ones before. A better example of this, would be if they released some 'new' Pokemon games together called Pink and Purple version, but Pink version had more Pokemon than Purple, but they costed the same amount of money to buy. That wouldn't make sense. We better get back on topic though, I've already been warned...

I'm sure Nintendo will release some VC GCN, and possibly Wii, but am 100% sure they won't enhance them beyond their original build of the game.

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You're talking about opinion here. My opinion is that remakes can be good. Your opinion is that they cannot. I'm fine with that. There's no sense in debating over it.

Also, the teams can be made up of new people in the company getting to learn how to make these games, just like what happened with OoT3D. They get to learn, we get to play awesome remakes of classic games. Seems like a win-win to me.

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36. Posted:

Honestly if you think about it. If Gamecube games come to the VC they will be the original games that came out for the GC. They wont be HD remakes or anything like that. I mean Nintendo could do a HDD remake series kinda like they did with the Play Control remakes they made for the Wii but it wont be available for the eShop. The didnt remake any of the NES, Genesis, N64 etc, games for the Wii's VC why would they do that for the Wii U?

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The problem is with putting these games on eShop, is that it will basically make Wii completely obsolete,

Nope. Many people already have a large Gamecube collection or if not, want to buy Gamecube discs before the game is released on Virtual Console, and even when it does, it may well be cheaper on disc than on Virtual Console.

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Bass_X0 wrote:

The problem is with putting these games on eShop, is that it will basically make Wii completely obsolete,

Nope. Many people already have a large Gamecube collection or if not, want to buy Gamecube discs before the game is released on Virtual Console, and even when it does, it may well be cheaper on disc than on Virtual Console.

Well, if you want to get the best version of the game based on HD and audio improvements, then VC would be the way to go. I've played older systems on HDTVs, and anything before GCN looks horrible most of the time. When I had all my old stuff, I literally hooked up a 19" tube TV just for retro consoles. Luckily, alot of Wii consoles have BC, and the component cables make the game look the best they can as of now. The games may cost less on disc, but having the improved visuals, audio, modern controllers, renewed support on the game, and not having the disc all, will all be key benefits to having it on Wii U download of the game. I expect GCN games to go for $12-20(most likely $15-18), but then the factor comes in on whether you can get the disc for less, and if you'll be able to keep up with getting accessories that they don't make anymore tor old consoles. Some may see F-Zero GX for $4 somewhere, and see it for $15 on eShop. At this point, after seeing GCN games run at 480p on larger HDTV screens, I'd rather pay the $15, as some SNES games went for the same price online as they did the Wii Shop, minus shipping, and improvements.

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Honestly if you think about it. If Gamecube games come to the VC they will be the original games that came out for the GC. They wont be HD remakes or anything like that. I mean Nintendo could do a HDD remake series kinda like they did with the Play Control remakes they made for the Wii but it wont be available for the eShop. The didnt remake any of the NES, Genesis, N64 etc, games for the Wii's VC why would they do that for the Wii U?

There should be gamecube games in the Wii U's virtual console (if it ever gets one). You can't say there won't be HD remakes, because you don't have the authority to know that. Whether or not they remade any genesis games for Wii is irrelevant to whether or not I would like Wii U remakes of gamecube games. And, quite honestly, I'd like remakes of the old games, too. SMB1-3 and SMW all with New Super Mario Bros' engine would be awesome. Maybe just remake Super Mario All-Stars, like the Wii's anniversary edition should have been. But now it could be in HD, anyway.

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Tasuki wrote:

Honestly if you think about it. If Gamecube games come to the VC they will be the original games that came out for the GC. They wont be HD remakes or anything like that. I mean Nintendo could do a HDD remake series kinda like they did with the Play Control remakes they made for the Wii but it wont be available for the eShop. The didnt remake any of the NES, Genesis, N64 etc, games for the Wii's VC why would they do that for the Wii U?

There should be gamecube games in the Wii U's virtual console (if it ever gets one). You can't say there won't be HD remakes, because you don't have the authority to know that. Whether or not they remade any genesis games for Wii is irrelevant to whether or not I would like Wii U remakes of gamecube games. And, quite honestly, I'd like remakes of the old games, too. SMB1-3 and SMW all with New Super Mario Bros' engine would be awesome. Maybe just remake Super Mario All-Stars, like the Wii's anniversary edition should have been. But now it could be in HD, anyway.

The reason they wont be HDD remakes on the VC is that Nintendo has addressed this issue before. They said that the VC would carry the original games in thier original forms. Unless they had to do changes ie licensing as in the case of Wave Race 64 I think it is. Now if they would put an HDD remake it would be on the Wiiware portion of the eShop kinda like the do with the 3DS remakes of Twin Bee and such. VC is not for remakes its for the old classic games in their original form.

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