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Grumblevolcano

So we all know Mario Kart 8 did rather well and was the start of positive news for Wii U. Lets consider an alternate future where that game sold very poorly (~ Bayonetta 2 sales) but caused the Wii U version of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed to have a huge surge in sales (~ ORAS sales), do you think this outcome in the long run would've been better for Nintendo than the one we're currently in?

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DefHalan

Grumblevolcano wrote:

So we all know Mario Kart 8 did rather well and was the start of positive news for Wii U. Lets consider an alternate future where that game sold very poorly (~ Bayonetta 2 sales) but caused the Wii U version of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed to have a huge surge in sales (~ ORAS sales), do you think this outcome in the long run would've been better for Nintendo than the one we're currently in?

bad sales of Nintendo products = better future for Nintendo??? Not sure if I am following this

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Octane

Grumblevolcano wrote:

do you think this outcome in the long run would've been better for Nintendo than the one we're currently in?

Please elaborate. What would be different? I'm not sure what you're thinking of.

Octane

Grumblevolcano

I'm thinking about the fact that Nintendo can still be rather stubborn (e.g. no small New 3DS model for NA, no charger with handhelds (have to purchase separately), significant delays in 1 region (i.e. retail games in EU, big VC games in NA), etc.). Do you think that would change if a 3rd party game from a company Nintendo currently gets on well with (e.g. SEGA) massively outsells the 1st party games?

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iKhan

Hmm. Here are the impacts I think it would have.

1. Nintendo really begins to completely retool the Mario Kart formula for the next game, and are far more cautious with expectations.
2. 3rd Parties perk up slightly at the idea of a 3rd party multiplat selling well, but no big AAA games come from that alone.

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unrandomsam

I couldn't support anything where a 30fps version of ASRT does well.

Especially as the iOS version is 60fps. That should have been what they did for the Wii U. (Forget the gimmicks like the mirror on Gamepad).

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I_Am_Kappa

I'm sorry ma'am but I think you're tripping

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Dezzy

According to vgchartz, Bayonetta 2 has sold 600k copies so far. I don't think that's too bad for a nintendo first-timer, especially one that doesn't really fit into the typical nintendo 'box'. It'll prob rise to about 800k over the following year.

Apart from that, I don't know how to even answer your question because I think your assumption that Mario Kart was stealing from Sonic All-stars sales is just nonsense.

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Dave24

The difference between N3DS and XL would be around 30-40$, so why people would buy a diet version? With a price difference so small, I actually wonder why do they even bother, other then giving the choice.

Saying Bayonetta 2 sold very poorly is overstatement though. From what I gather, it sold better than TW101 - that was a bomb, sadly.

Dave24

Grumblevolcano

Dezzy wrote:

According to vgchartz, Bayonetta 2 has sold 600k copies so far. I don't think that's too bad for a nintendo first-timer, especially one that doesn't really fit into the typical nintendo 'box'. It'll prob rise to about 800k over the following year.

Apart from that, I don't know how to even answer your question because I think your assumption that Mario Kart was stealing from Sonic All-stars sales is just nonsense.

I wasn't assuming that, rather considering the impact if a 3rd party game on Wii U had better sales than 1st party games. Mario Kart 8 and Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed was the best comparison I could think of as they are both in the same genre and each one does some things better than other (for example, imagine how better Mario Kart 8 would be if there was battle arenas or if Sonic All-Stars had a brilliant lobby system for online).

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Zizzy

What an odd thing to think about...

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Octane

Grumblevolcano wrote:

I'm thinking about the fact that Nintendo can still be rather stubborn (e.g. no small New 3DS model for NA, no charger with handhelds (have to purchase separately), significant delays in 1 region (i.e. retail games in EU, big VC games in NA), etc.). Do you think that would change if a 3rd party game from a company Nintendo currently gets on well with (e.g. SEGA) massively outsells the 1st party games?

I understand your point; but without the information, numbers and reasons Nintendo has, we have no idea if the opposite would've worked out for them. It might seem counter-intuitive, but who knows what reason they have for what they do. I don't think that if 3rd party games outsold their first party games it would be much different.

Octane

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