tendoboy1984 wrote:
Nintendo's position in the market? Nintendo has been in much worse, and they still pushed on, despite the legions of anti-Nintendo fanboys and media betting against them. I remember back during the N64 and GameCube eras when the media was saying that they should "pull a Sega" and exit the console market, becoming a 3rd-party developer. Then the Wii came along and put the company back on top for a few years.
If it wasn't for the Wii and DS, Nintendo would have been dead long ago. Iwata said a few years ago that when Nintendo stops making hardware is the day they exit the videogame industry altogether. Here's a nice article I found that better explains the company's famous legacy of stubbornness: http://www.geekosystem.com/nintendo-stubborn/
Yes the 3DS is struggling, but there's no guarantee that the Vita will do any better. Both Nintendo and Sony are taking huge risks in the middle of an oversaturated smartphone/tablet-gaming market. But there is no reason the two devices can't coexist together. The PC gaming market is still thriving, even though consoles are (arguably) more popular. One device doesn't have to monopolize the market, there's plenty of room for consoles, handhelds, PC's, and mobile devices. It's called giving consumers variety and choice, that's the basis of a free market.
With the Wii U, Nintendo is trying to appeal to the mainstream consumer that loves "mobile gaming". This is probably the first time they've ever directly targeted a specific type of consumer. People love simplicity, and the Wii U combines what traditional gamers love (buttons, analog controls) and what casual gamers love (touchscreen controls, accessibility), offering a "best of both worlds" type of gaming experience.
Despite all the people betting against them, Nintendo might prove (ONCE AGAIN) that they can still be relevant in the console/handheld industry. Never underestimate Nintendo, that's one of the golden rules of the gaming industry.
If you want to make a rebuttal, then fine, but I'm done arguing my OPINION on the matter.
Fair enough. Based on Nintendo's past performance, it is possible that it may do okay this generation and pull through. Personally, I don't know how well the Wii U will catch on. An HD Wii with an odd controller? Looking at that controller, I see no benefit to gaming. All I see is a tiring gimmick, in most ways. When I game, I just want a traditional controller. I don't want to have to waggle every time I want to attack and tire out my wrist, or hold up my arms and twist my body to deflect arrows. I just hope the controller is more comfortable to hold for long periods of time than it looks.
Also, something that caught my eyes, was the Wii U's fancy controller's complete lack of a analogue stick. All it has are circle pads in the very corners. I'm not quite sure how fond of that I'll be. Who knows, maybe Nintendo will pull a Wii and it'll sell like hotcakes. Maybe I'll use the controller and be amazed. I think it's more likely than not that that won't happen, though. Personally, I wouldn't have thought it unwise if Nintendo "pulled a Sega" after the GC. It took a huge gamble, and was lucky that the Wii and DS worked out as well as they did.
Radixxs wrote:
SnoozerBear wrote:
Radixxs wrote:
SnoozerBear wrote:
YellowChocobo wrote:
I am... wow.
My honest prediction is that Nintendo will be acquired by then. I know the very thought of that brings the fanboys to tears, but the sooner, the better.
Agreed. During the N64/GameCube era's Nintendo wasn't doing so hot. I though the Wii was going to flop, but hype and genius marketing along with luck got them through. Now with the Wii U on the horizon, I have to say I think they're not going to make it. The Wii's gimmick (motion control) and marketing to casuals worked that round, but how will it work now? They're largest audience is going to/has put down Wii Fit, and is/will gravitate towards smart-phones and the like. I don't see their tablet controller pulling through. My first reaction to the Wii U was "lolwut" then "No way do I want that." What are they thinking? And then all the people going on about how it's stronger than a PS3. Great an HD Nintendo console... but by the time its out, it'll be half a dozen years late. Then the PS4 or whatever will come out and they'll be screwed. Once again, we'll be getting tech a generation old with nothing but one of the most obnoxious gimmicks to date.
The only thing the Wii Remote was really good for tbh, was the pointer. Everything else I just wished I had a button. Only exceptions are games that use Wii Motion Plus towards the end of the Wii's life, like Resort and Skyward Sword. I just wish Nintendo would stop making hardware already. They should become a software developer exclusively, because it's all they are good at. I don't see any way for Nintendo to survive as it has unless the Wii U is essentially a fluke like the Wii. The name alone makes me want to barf. The "We You"? That has got to be the worst name I've ever heard of for a console. The best thing that's come from it is the "We _____U" jokes.
Ah, I see we have our own prophet! Please, will you do us the pleasure of telling us what else will occur in the next few years? Perhaps you can even through in some sort of Apocalypse!
Oh well, at least we know you can jump on a bandwagon.
Oh well, at least we know you dislike people having their own opinions. So, apparently, if one's opinion is similar to that of many others', the reason itself that it is their opinion is because it is a popular one? Surely, it cannot be, I actually thought it through and came to that conclusion? No, that is completely absurd.
But this is Nintendo Life, perhaps here I am playing the Devil's Advocate inadvertently. Until relatively recently, I played exclusively Nintendo consoles. I love Nintendo. I've played Nintendo games my whole life. However, I don't see how it will succeed this next generation. Maybe it'll survive, barely, maybe it'll do as well as it did with the Wii. I think most likely, Nintendo won't make it. I just don't see how. And if not this generation, maybe next generation it'll flop. Is my opinion offensive? I'm so sorry. One thing you have to admit, the Wii is last gen tech. Nintendo basically took the GameCube and repackaged it with Motion controls. Don't get me wrong, though, I loved, and still love, the 'Cube. Now, we might get the same thing. I have to admit, the Wii U doesn't look bad right now technologically, but by the time it comes out and its competitors are announced...? We'll see.
Maybe I forgot a huge "IMO" at the end of my previous post. Maybe I sounded a little... harsh. Arrogant. Conceited? No matter what, I'd appreciate if you logically refuted whatever points I may have made/made and supported your own, different, opinion instead of what you said. I'm not fond of dry, sarcastic jabs. I am sorry if in any way I was offensive enough to draw out such a response from you. It's not that I dislike Nintendo, or its software. It's just I don't like its hardware at all recently, the Wii U has done nothing to change that, and I don't see Nintendo doing as well as it did with the Wii again. I'm not God, I'll admit I might be wrong. Hell, I'll even admit I'm probably wrong if that makes you feel better. But next time, try to be nicer and maybe a tad bit more mature. It's my opinion, my view... my reaction to the Wii U. I'm not stating it's fact, or that it's everyone's opinion, and most importantly, you don't have to agree.
Hey now, I never expected a simple joke to invoke such a heated reply! I'm genuinely sorry if my banter rubbed you the wrong way. Lesson learned eh? No joking with Snoozerbears.
Jokes aside, my opinion is that if Nintendo can make "last gen" hardware and "gimmicky" motion controls the best selling console of all-time (not including handhelds,) then I would at least give them a shot at the Wii U before declaring incompetency in the hardware-making business.
I'm not going to pretend I read your entire reply, but I do respect other opinions. I just have the habit of jumping at the chance for humorous banter. May I suggest learning a lesson from YellowChocobo? He may disagree, but he took the joke rather well in my opinion, even if it wasn't aimed toward him.
You will find I do not react well to banter. Maybe because I'm used to forums where people don't joke, and instead endlessly flame and troll each-other to death. I am sorry I took it a little too seriously. I tend to be a very... high-strung person, at least on boards, so when you joke towards me, I recommend you make it very clear that you mean no harm. >_< Also, I didn't mean they were incompetent in regards to hardware from a marketing point of view, I merely meant technologically. Nintendo is just a little behind the times if you know what I mean in regards to the power of their consoles, if not in other aspects (3DS's 3D).
