Topic: A Pretty Accurate Smash Ballot Poll Data

Ice Climbers couldn't run on the 3DS version because Nana has its own AI. The Duck, and Luma for that matter, do not. Has nothing to do with the models used.

@UGXwolf If there being an abundance of swordfighters in Smash makes "no sense" to you, I dunno, try tilting your head a little or something.

You put "too many swordfighters" in quotations, as if I said that, which I did not. I said "not more swordfighters," as in they are already well-represented and something different would be more interesting.

Hmm, could have sworn that it was about rendering 8 ice climber models simultaneously... Either way, ain't gonna happen in Smash 4, maybe in the future around the release of Smash 5 and, conveniently, Twilight Princess HD.

Either way, judging by people's reactions there seem to be a few names that constantly crop up; the Inklings (which surprisingly haven't been mentioned yet on this thread), King K Rool, Shovel Knight and Snake. These seem to be most popular wherever you go. My personal choice has always been Simon Belmont. But someone mentioned a character with a rich Nintendo History - so what about Captain Rainbow? He's quirky enough and has already helped Little Mac... he seems like a good choice! That's just my opinion tho.

@Haru17: So are Rosalina and Luma. The problem is in the AI, not the models.

Well, not really. I had already dropped this issue, but Nana / Popo are much more demanding to render than either Luma or the 'duck' half of Duck Hunt. But yeah, A.I., real tear-jerker, that one.

@Haru17: I was actually comparing RosaLuma to Wolf Link/Midna, there. Pointing out that they'd act far less like Ice Climbers and far more like RosaLuma or Duck Hunt.

I'd compare WolfLink/Midna to Duck Hunt, since I think Midna would stay perched on WolfLink's back instead of being thrown around and getting beaten like Luma. Duck, unlike Luma, is stuck like King Dedede and his hammer.

@CaviarMeths: "too many swordfighters" "not more swordfighters" what's the difference? They both sound like winging when sword fighters aren't really represented alot. The 3 Brawler, Sword Fighter and Gunner types; 12 Sword Fighters compared to 11-8 Gunners types compared to the rest being basic Brawlers on the roster... No, they're under represented. FE characters make it seem that way.

Just thought I'd throw up the numbers to make a point:

Brawlers: 23
Swordfighters: 11
(Bow-and-sword: 4)
Gunners: 7
Hanmer fighters: 2
Magic users: 4
Mech user/mechs: 2
Ninjas: 2
Psychics: 3
Commanders: 1
Everything under the Sun: Kirby, Game&Watch, Villager, Pac-man (Kirby is actually listed as a hammer user while the rest are just called Brawlers.)

Wolf Link / Midna could actually be a cool puppet master character too, now that I think of it. Maybe a situation where both W. Link and Midna can act as either puppet or puppet master, but with different attributes.

Anyway, I'd love a Dark Samus that has some of Samus' B moves, but is faster and more acrobatic in her attacks, like Zero Suit. Samus is just too chunky for me to play currently, despite her looking awesome.

And, man, do Ryu's brush stroke effects make me wish Amaterasu had half a chance in hell of getting into Smash T_T.

The day when Shovel Knight is in Smash Bros is when the day I stop playing Smash Bros forever.

....Stupid reason to stop playing Smash, but ok. >.>

This list is BS. Certain popular choices are nowhere to be found on it.

I just don't see Indie characters as playable characters in Smash Bros, It's sorta like anime characters in Smash Bros. Expect that they started from a Video game.

@TwilightV: Certain popular choices such as?

@NightmareEater: After Ryu got in, I can believe any video game character has a shot. I don't see how an Indie character is much different from your average 3rd party. At least the Indie character likely has a game on the Wii U.

If that's how you're gonna act, then I'm gonna go vote for him in the Smash Ballot ten times (Seriously, you'd stop playing Smash just because ONE character hypothetically gets in? Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?).

In reality, the Smash poll means nothing. Nintendo can discount 3rd party characters, or characters too complex to be included in the 3ds version, or on the grounds for not being suitable for children, or being too similar to character X, or just because Sakuurai doesn't think they'll work. Ergo were just making suggestions, not electing characters on general concensus.

I thought that was the point. For a character to be eligible for Smash, he or she must, at least, originate from a videogame.
You're being a bit ridiculous when you say you'll stop playing Smash if Shovel Knight gets in Smash, aren't you? To be fair, I will be a bit mad if I don't get any of the characters I want because other... well, 'bottom of the list' characters got in first, but...
Eh, I'll think I'll stop there.

I personally find Shovel Knight somewhat "out of place" simply because he feels like a fad choice. Nothing against the character specifically. Shantae on the other hand I'm fully behind, and I personally hope she gets in.

I seriously see no difference from Shantea and Shovel Knight. Shantea was about combos and her gear was about stat boosts, but Shovel Knight has an assload of gear to use which they'd turn into combo's anyway. Hell, I bet Villagers Down-Smash would be in Shovel Knights somewhere.