vio wrote:

Let me see how many I can name:
1. Mario Party
2. Mario Party 2
3. Mario Party 3
4. Cruis'n Exotica
5. Cruis'n World
6. Mario Tennis
7. Hey You! Pikachu!
8. Dr. Mario 64
9. Pokemon Stadium
10. Pokemon Stadium 2
11. Donkey Kong 64 (I don't want to hear "Well, it has the Jetpac game" or "Rare made it" excuse)
12. ExciteBike 64

Actually, it's a little more then that. If you know any third-party N64 games that don't require the Rumble Pak to save data, they are included.

What? There's gotta be more than that. What about these?

Turok 1-3
Extreme-G 1 & 2
Mega Man 64
Body Harvest
Whipeout 64
Shadow Man
Hydro Thunder
Command & Conquer
Doom 64
Quake 1 & 2
San Fransisco Rush
Rush 2: Extreme Racing USA
San Fransisco Rush 2049
Hexen
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Bio F.R.E.A.K.S
Clayfighter 63 1/3
Road Rash 64
Forsaken 64
Gauntlet Legends
Mace: The Dark Age
Vigilante 8 & Vigilante 8: Second Offense
Top Gear Rally 1 & 2
Starcraft 64

Not to mention all the Star Wars games...

marktheshark wrote:

vio wrote:

Let me see how many I can name:
1. Mario Party
2. Mario Party 2
3. Mario Party 3
4. Cruis'n Exotica
5. Cruis'n World
6. Mario Tennis
7. Hey You! Pikachu!
8. Dr. Mario 64
9. Pokemon Stadium
10. Pokemon Stadium 2
11. Donkey Kong 64 (I don't want to hear "Well, it has the Jetpac game" or "Rare made it" excuse)
12. ExciteBike 64

Actually, it's a little more then that. If you know any third-party N64 games that don't require the Rumble Pak to save data, they are included.

What? There's gotta be more than that. What about these?

(My words are in bold, but most of these games may have more problem then you expected.)

Turok 1-3 (Likely owned by Touchstone Pictues, an non-supporting Virtual Console publisher)
Extreme-G 1 & 2 (Creator of game is defuncted)
Mega Man 64
Body Harvest (Unknown if Time Warner will let Midway release game in North America and the European publisher has defuncted)
Wipeout 64 (Even if Midway are allowed to support the Virtual Console, the series is owned by Sony, create another problem)
Shadow Man (Publisher of the game is defuncted, plus it's based off licensed property)
Hydro Thunder (Unknown if Time Warner will allow Midway to release there old games on the Virtual Console)
Command & Conquer
Doom 64 (Unknown if Time Warner will allow Midway to release there old games on the Virtual Console)
Quake 1 & 2 (The second one should be release, if it's published by Activision, but the first one is published by Midway. We'll have to wait and see if Time Warner allow Midway to release there games on the Virtual Console)
San Fransisco Rush (Unknown if Time Warner will allow Midway to release it on the Virtual Console)
Rush 2: Extreme Racing USA (Time will tell if Time Warner will allow Midway to release it on the Virtual Console)
San Fransisco Rush 2049 (Unknown if Time Warner will allow Midway to release it on the Virtual Console)
Hexen (iD Software shows no support for the Virtual Console yet)
Mortal Kombat Trilogy (Unknown if Time Warner will allow Midway to release it)
Bio F.R.E.A.K.S (Unknown if TIme Warner will allow Midway to release there games on the Virtual Console)
Clayfighter 63 1/3
Road Rash 64 (THQ has given no support to the Virtual Console)
Forsaken 64 (Creator of game defucted)
Gauntlet Legends (Unknown if Time Warner will allow Midway to release there games on the Virtual Console)
Mace: The Dark Age (Unknown if Time Warner will allow Midway to release there games on the Virtual Console)
Vigilante 8 & Vigilante 8: Second Offense
Top Gear Rally 1 & 2 (First game was published by Midway. They'll have to get Time Warner premission if we're ever going to see them. I don't even know if the publisher (Kemco) of the second game is still around)
Starcraft 64

Not to mention all the Star Wars games... (Has licensing issues)

Turok 1-3 won't come anytime soon. The Starwars games might come, but not for a while. Everthing else probably will come though.

Edwin wrote:

weirdadam wrote:

I was just thinking about how many games I downloaded just because my favorite games weren't out yet

When you do this, Nintendo wins! We must not give in.

marktheshark wrote:

Turok 1-3 won't come anytime soon. The Starwars games might come, but not for a while. Everthing else probably will come though.

Super+Smash+Bros wrote:

[Counting the 16 games we have on the Virtual Console, plus 15 possible games I mentioned in another thread, it would add up to 31. Add it by six and we have 37 games in total (Not including Top Gear Rally 2). The main reason for such an low amount is due to the fact that Midway might not be able to support the Virtual Console. If Kemco is indeed defunct, we'll have to cut out Top Gear Rally 2. You have to admit, it's a little better, but still humilating.

vio wrote:

Super+Smash+Bros wrote:

[Counting the 16 games we have on the Virtual Console, plus 15 possible games I mentioned in another thread, it would add up to 31. Add it by six and we have 37 games in total (Not including Top Gear Rally 2). The main reason for such an low amount is due to the fact that Midway might not be able to support the Virtual Console. If Kemco is indeed defunct, we'll have to cut out Top Gear Rally 2. You have to admit, it's a little better, but still humilating.

Ok, I don't know about the others, but there's no way Rare owns the rights to Turok. The last Turok game was published by Disney, so it's likely them who owns the rights to it now.

Super+Smash+Bros wrote:

Actually, the last Turok game was published by Touchstone Pictures for the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 and Capcom for the PC. It's either Touchstone or Capcom who currently owns the license to the games, but if it does turn out to be Touchstone, we have an game under licensing hell.

vio wrote:

Super+Smash+Bros wrote:

Actually, the last Turok game was published by Touchstone Pictures for the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 and Capcom for the PC. It's either Touchstone or Capcom who currently owns the license to the games, but if it does turn out to be Touchstone, we have an game under licensing hell.

cough Touchstone IS Disney. From Wikipedia:

Turok
Main article: Turok (video game)
"Turok is the latest installment in the first-person shooter Turok video games series based on Acclaim Entertainment's comic series under the same name. The game was scheduled to be released in North America for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on February 5, 2008, however, it was instead released on January 31. It was released on April 22, 2008 for the PC.[citation needed] Turok was developed by Propaganda Games and published and distributed by Disney Interactive Studios under the Touchstone banner in North America, Ireland and United Kingdom and by Capcom in all other territories."

my_point_is wrote:

i really think it`s bad buisness practice from nintendo to release VC games at such a slow rate. especially as they could put the extra cash towards developing new games, and it would help keep third party publishers and developers going aswell.
there`s 7 consoles and the old arcade games, all of which have a huge back catalouge, i would like to think each platform would get at least 3 or 4 games out every month.
i understand that there may be issues with licencing, and some companies not being around any more, but surely it`s not the excuse to not bring out the games that can get the go ahead.
also, nintendo need to realise that not everybody can afford to buy/or want to buy new retail games all of the time, and that the VC and WW services at times are a better option.
the other problem is down to the publishers with which games they`re willing to release on to the VC aswell. so it may not be all nintendo`s fault.

weirdadam wrote:

I don't think Nintendo is interested in running a third-party-only VC, and fans are going to hate them if they hold back on Yoshi's Island forever just so that we have something of Nintendo's to look forward to.

So my guess is that the Virtual Console will cease to be updated after next year, which should feature the last of Nintendo's missing first-party titles, and then they will shift focus to WiiWare. They may even be waiting for this moment to open the DSi VC so that it isn't completely closed. Who knows.

vio wrote:

There's no development or production costs associated with these games. They're just uploading rom files.

weirdadam wrote:

From a business perspective, I think maybe they've given us too many games. We don't have a lot of first-party games left to look forward to. Super Mario Kart and Smash Brothers 64 are the big guns, I think, and both have already been out in Japan, and at least one is coming to the West soon. I'd guess both by the year's end.

What else do we have? Earthbound, despite Iwata pinky swearing otherwise, looks unlikely. The only others I can think of that don't have technical or legal issues are Star Fox and Yoshi's Island. What else am I missing? I'm just talking first-party here.

I don't think Nintendo is interested in running a third-party-only VC, and fans are going to hate them if they hold back on Yoshi's Island forever just so that we have something of Nintendo's to look forward to.

So my guess is that the Virtual Console will cease to be updated after next year, which should feature the last of Nintendo's missing first-party titles, and then they will shift focus to WiiWare. They may even be waiting for this moment to open the DSi VC so that it isn't completely closed. Who knows.

Honestly, I'd love to see it done with. I'm not really a fan of waiting every week in hope of a giant surprise that will likely not arrive, and while I hope to see Earthbound on Wii someday, I'd rather official confirmation that it isn't coming than waiting for nothing. Plus, it'd allow more WiiWare games to be released per week. With all the potentially awesome games in development for the service right now, that would be great news to me.