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101. Posted:

@TheDreamingHawk: Instead of waiting and hoping against hope why dont you just buy a SNES and a copy of the game. It will be a whole lot easier.

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102. Posted:

the_shpydar wrote:

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I still believe that EB will come to VC

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There's your first problem.

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considering that it honestly doesn't have much legal issues in the first place.

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And there's your second.

It honestly isn't about whether the legal issues are strong or valid cases (which, honestly, they are). The amount of money that needs to be spent to defeat even a frivolous legal challenge when it comes to corporate copyright law is extrvagant.

Face facts. It's not going to happen. The sooner people accept that, the happier all will be.

I only have problems with people trying to be like moderators when they are not.

I would doubt EB on VC if it never got rereleased on the GBA, but seeing how absolutely nothing happened after it's release, I doubt they would get in trouble if they left the songs in. Stupid parents haven't been able to successfully damage nintendo yet!

Explain why Mother 2 was given a demo in Smash bros on the JP version, and that it's still isn't out yet in Japan.

All I care about is a JP release at the most, that will prove the game is fine.

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103. Posted:

And I have a JP copy of Mother 1 and 2 thank you very much. I just don't see why people diss EB central a lot over this, WHEN THEY ARE THE SAME. PEOPLE THAT TOLD US ABOUT IT HAVING ISSUES!

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104. Posted:

If they were to localize Earthbound would enough people buy it to make enough to make up for the cost of changing the 3 issues

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105. Posted:

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

the_shpydar wrote:

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

I still believe that EB will come to VC

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There's your first problem.

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

considering that it honestly doesn't have much legal issues in the first place.

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And there's your second.

It honestly isn't about whether the legal issues are strong or valid cases (which, honestly, they are). The amount of money that needs to be spent to defeat even a frivolous legal challenge when it comes to corporate copyright law is extrvagant.

Face facts. It's not going to happen. The sooner people accept that, the happier all will be.

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I only have problems with people trying to be like moderators when they are not.

I would doubt EB on VC if it never got rereleased on the GBA, but seeing how absolutely nothing happened after it's release, I doubt they would get in trouble if they left the songs in. Stupid parents haven't been able to successfully damage nintendo yet!

Explain why Mother 2 was given a demo in Smash bros on the JP version, and that it's still isn't out yet in Japan.

All I care about is a JP release at the most, that will prove the game is fine.

Parents might not notice the songs but the copyright holders will and boy will they sue.

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106. Posted:

I wish they could just change it, if hackers can mess around with the ROMS however they please so easily, than Nintendo should have no problems changing out the things that would be subject to copyright. All games on Virtual Console are ROMS anyways, so I see no difference.

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107. Posted:

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I wish they could just change it, if hackers can mess around with the ROMS however they please so easily, than Nintendo should have no problems changing out the things that would be subject to copyright. All games on Virtual Console are ROMS anyways, so I see no difference.

I'm pretty sure NoA, & NoE have to "correspond" w/ the "mothership"(pun post-forum post intended), NoJ. Last I knew, NoJ said no on (the issue of) NoA altering the rom.

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108. Posted:

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

I only have problems with people trying to be like moderators when they are not.
I would doubt EB on VC if it never got rereleased on the GBA, but seeing how absolutely nothing happened after it's release, I doubt they would get in trouble if they left the songs in. Stupid parents haven't been able to successfully damage nintendo yet!
Explain why Mother 2 was given a demo in Smash bros on the JP version, and that it's still isn't out yet in Japan.
All I care about is a JP release at the most, that will prove the game is fine.

I'll bite. I thought this was pretty obvious but apparently it is not. Japan and the United States are sovereign nations and have their own laws therefore copyright issues and intellectual property law is very different. You have pretty much answered for yourself why Earthbound is not coming back to the United States and the West with your questions. The Mother GBA games were never released outside of Japan and there was no Earthbound demo on Brawl outside of Japan either. Why? Do you not see a pattern? A Japanese release of Earthbound doesn't mean anything to the United States.

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I wish they could just change it, if hackers can mess around with the ROMS however they please so easily, than Nintendo should have no problems changing out the things that would be subject to copyright. All games on Virtual Console are ROMS anyways, so I see no difference.

Editing a song is practically like admitting guilt of copyright infringement. Hello lawsuit!

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109. Posted:

@Capt_N wasn't it Itoi saying no to changing it? I don't think Nintendo of Japan would have.

@Ryno. How could they be charged for copyright if its being changed? I don't really follow copyright that well.

Its a shame Iwata got everyone's hopes up. Saying that Earthbound would be one of the games to feature when the Virtual Console was first announced. Why would he have said that had he not known the specifics on it actually happening? :|

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110. Posted:

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@Ryno. How could they be charged for copyright if its being changed? I don't really follow copyright that well.

How many copies of Earthbound have been sold in the United States with that song on it already? Research the term "royalties."

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111. Posted:

There are a lot of VC games. Play other games. :)

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112. Posted:

I agree
earthbound is not worth all this talk, and discussion

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113. Posted:

zelda_4_life wrote:

I agree
earthbound is not worth all this talk, and discussion

Your opinion.

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114. Posted:

here let me quote myself again...

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that is an idea although its going to be a little hard to convince shigesato itoi to agree, as he said there would be no altering allowed to it.

that is your reason, in a nutshell.
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ogo79 wrote:

here let me quote myself again...

ogo79 wrote:

that is an idea although its going to be a little hard to convince shigesato itoi to agree, as he said there would be no altering allowed to it.

that is your reason, in a nutshell.

Kids these days don't care about artistic integrity. It's all about gimme, gimme, gimme!

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116. Posted:

I still think they should give it a chance. Heck, even if Mother doesn't come to the VC, it should at least appear in Nintendo land in some form.

And to be honest, I wouldn't care about EB on VC if we had more games.

Personally, for some reason we haven't gotten the japanese versions of FF II and III on NES, and V on the SNES, NA hasn't gotten devil world for a mysterious reason, and DR mario is nowhere in sight. What's happening to the big shots?

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117. Posted:

TheDreamingHawk wrote:

DR mario is nowhere in sight. What's happening to the big shots?

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Nintendo probably reasons that different ver.s game are (already) available, via WW(WiiWare)/DSiW(are), &/or that making available a 500pt(point) game detracts from d/ls of the other, & perhaps more expensive ver.s of the game

As for the "big shots", many majority(read: people)-considered-it(-to-be) popular titles are already on the service. Of course, a lot is still not on the service. This is to be expected. Apparently, Nintendo doesn't wanna go through the hassles(legal/programming/paying the programmers/etc.) of getting some titles. Really though, it's a shame, as it not only was a major portion of the Wii's individual charm over the other systems, but it also set the proverbial bar/precedent for any future Nintendo online emulation services, out in plain sight, for all to see. Like the events in Peter Pan, these conversations have all happened in the past/before, & they will all happen again. The Wii VC could be improved, but I don't think Nintendo would want to do it, w/ the WU coming up. Unless they plan to upgrade the VC w/ a major overhaul type of upgrade.

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118. Posted:

Emaan wrote:

I wish they could just change it, if hackers can mess around with the ROMS however they please so easily, than Nintendo should have no problems changing out the things that would be subject to copyright. All games on Virtual Console are ROMS anyways, so I see no difference.

But that would take effort.

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119. Posted:

Emaan wrote:

I wish they could just change it, if hackers can mess around with the ROMS however they please so easily, than Nintendo should have no problems changing out the things that would be subject to copyright. All games on Virtual Console are ROMS anyways, so I see no difference.

That would take resources away from things that would actually make money. And no, I don't think an $8-10 VC game is very profitable.

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120. Posted:

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That would take resources away from things that would actually make money. And no, I don't think an $8-10 VC game is very profitable.

They've made quite a bit of money off of the Virtual Console so far, and I'm pretty sure with Earthbound's status of people wanting it Nintendo would get a lot of downloads. Literally it wouldn't take that many resources, when its the matter of changing out audio. Its not like they have to overhaul everything.

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