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Sean_Aaron

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The Jaguar was marketed as a 64-bit system, but was actually a dual 32-bit system. The 3D capabilities of the system were barely exploited, and the touchtone pad probably confused the heck out of everybody.

No, actually the system does have a couple of 64-bit components on a single die and those components have a 64-bit data path to memory. It all comes down to how much you want to weigh up the width of the system bus and inclusion of 32-bit components against that. Since there was never an industry-standard definition of "bitness" I don't think anyone can authoritatively state that the Jaguar wasn't a 64-bit machine, but this states it all more succinctly:

http://www.metalstuff.com/area64/jaguar/wasit.html

And yes, it does have the very best version of Wolfenstine 3D with all graphics, bosses and music intact.

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Mr_Nose

Madness! The 3D0 has the best Wolf 3D! Has more levels, runs smooth as glass, and a soundtrack you have to hear to believe. Some of the sound effects are different too, also has a map!

Anyway, speaking as someone who loves his old systems ( and his 3D0 ), ignore the people who just regurgitate how crappy 'this' or 'that' system was, they probably weren't there in the first place. And while nostalgia plays a big role, many of these old experiences were unique, and fun. They can't be judged by modern eyes / standards.

I say pick it up. If you're still 'iffy' about it afterwards, just start referring to yourself as a 'COLLECTOR!'

EDIT: And why has no one mentioned Alien vs. Predator? It was the sole reason I coveted the jaguar. =)

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Tasuki

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So what exactly was wrong with the console??

Uhhh, you can ask what isn't wrong with this console. Who would buy this back then let alone today!? You would need your head examined.

My friends parents got one on release day but than again they bought every system that came out at the time.

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SkullMan

Jaguar and 3DO were dead in the water before they even got off.

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I'd say go for it.
Having just had a quick look at this - http://www.videogamecritic.net/jaguar.htm it seems that yes, this console had a lot of stinkers, but that there are definetly enough good games to warrant a purchase (depending on availabilty and price of said good games of course).
Alien v Predator , Ruiner Pinball and Cannon Fodder look worth the price of admission alone . Tempted myself now ,never really looked into em before.I remember them being launched but because they were so universally slated I was never that intrested.
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Sean_Aaron

SirGreatNose wrote:

Madness! The 3D0 has the best Wolf 3D! Has more levels, runs smooth as glass, and a soundtrack you have to hear to believe. Some of the sound effects are different too, also has a map!
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EDIT: And why has no one mentioned Alien vs. Predator? It was the sole reason I coveted the jaguar. =)

Well, I didn't even know Wolf 3D existed on 3DO, so I'll take your word for it. It certainly had the best version of Star Control II, which is the basis for the freeware "Ur-Quan Masters" port for Mac OSX and Windows due to the superior graphics and soundtrack over the original DOS version.

Alien Vs. Predator is indeed well-regarded by many and is probably one of the first games to put Rebellion on the map, but I found it too challenging. I recall spending a lot of time roaming corridors that looked the same, crawling through similar airshafts and never seeming to get anywhere until I finally ran out of ammo. You'd need to be drawing a map as you played and I really don't like that kind of game. Definitely impressive (and better than any other Alien game I can recall from that era - I think there was a Playstation game that came close, but gave players enough firepower that it lacked the scares.

If I get paid early (as is usually the case in December in the UK) then I'll seriously consider it. The good thing is that the games I'm looking to get for it are ones I had owned new back in the day and I know what games to avoid ("Can't-Sue-Me-Ninja" anyone?), so that takes some of the risk-taking out of it. I cannot say I want to get into collecting old consoles, but this seems like an easy one and has enough personal cache for me to take the plunge.

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SonicMaster

How about this Jaguar?
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Pretty awesome, I would say.

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Sean_Aaron

Well after talking myself out of it I started thinking about the possibility of doing a homebrew spinner controller given the wider availability of arcade parts since I did my original one. I did some research and found a number of people have done some quality hacks combing arcade spinners with Jaguar controllers, replacing the d-pad with a spinner.

Of course one of these costs as much as the console, but it's still worth it to me. I managed to land an official SCART cable, a Jag with two games (Brutal Sports Football and Cannon Fodder I think) and a controller. Separately I won T2K and Iron Soldier, shrink-wrapped, so I'm pretty happy. Now I just need to get them in the post!

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Raylax

pixelman wrote:

At first I thought you meant...

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Sean_Aaron

Yeah, keypads aren't terribly easy to emulate on a console which lacks them - check my Intellivision Lives! Gamecube review! On the other hand the DS touchscreen works really well for them. Jaguar on the 3DS VC?

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Lotice-Paladin

SirGreatNose wrote:

Anyway, speaking as someone who loves his old systems ( and his 3D0 ), ignore the people who just regurgitate how crappy 'this' or 'that' system was, they probably weren't there in the first place. And while nostalgia plays a big role, many of these old experiences were unique, and fun. They can't be judged by modern eyes / standards.

I say pick it up. If you're still 'iffy' about it afterwards, just start referring to yourself as a 'COLLECTOR!'

EDIT: And why has no one mentioned Alien vs. Predator? It was the sole reason I coveted the jaguar. =)

I agree, every system has its strength and weaknesses...from what I have seen...the Jaguar was pretty good at 2D games that looked on par with the Neo Geo but Atari's financial clout was poor and customer confidence gone from past experiences of the "crash".

It's a shame too...as apparently Rayman plays better on the system then on Playstation.

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Token+Girl wrote:

I wonder why we havent seen it come to the VC.

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Exactly. Let the controller speak for itself. XD

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