Topic: Sorry Nintendo home consoles, I'm done with you. (My top 10 Nintendo Exclusives of all-time)

Inaccurate unfortunately.

Mario Kart Wii 34.01 million
New Super Mario Bros. Wii 27.61 million
Super Mario Galaxy 11.72 million
Super Smash Bros. Brawl 11.49 million
Little Big Planet : 3 Million
Sony Smash Bros.: Less than a million, if any.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to quality and number of IPs.

PS3 games sold just fine though considering the difference in hardware sales. GT5 sold nearly 11 million, in addition to nearly 5 million for Prologue. The Uncharted games were all around or above 5 million. Sony's IPs aren't meant to appeal to absolutely everyone so its unreasonable to expect them to reach Mario Kart sales.

Which is likely a good thing for consumers, since Sony isn't afraid to push out a completely new IP like Infamous, LittleBigPlanet, or The Last of Us (which had a terrific launch) while Nintendo is hesitant to try anything new because they know some of these games are a guaranteed 10 million plus and spending resources in other areas (like Wii Music) might not yield the same results.

Well I can't be sure what he meant but they obviously cannot compete.
And yeah Gran Turismo "add number here" sure is trying new stuff. You're right, it's the only Sony IP which sold more than 10 million (even during the PS2 age so the hardware excuse does not work) and that is, ultimately, a pretty pathetic effort. Nintendo has a lot of 10 million sellers, I only mentioned a random few.

You are comparing main IPs from Nintendo over a 20 year span to main IPs from Sony over a 6 year span, one of which a racing game? Surely you understand how horribly inaccurate and biased that is. That is equivalent to me using Galaxy 1 and Galaxy 2 to show how little Mario has progressed, while comparing it to game made in 1995 versus a game made in 2010. And how do you expect them to monumentally change each GT game? lol

The Uncharted series was a brand new trilogy for this gen that was pretty much universally loved, and you're using this as a negative. lol. Yes, they really milk those brand new IPs before they move on to other brand new IPs.

At least you have your sales. I'm sure that makes your Wii games much more enjoyable knowing they sell a lot.

So you are saying Killzone/Uncharted/Gran Turisimo 17 will look different? Not making sense. Of course Nintendo been there for longer, that's one reason why they're better. How many years passed between Wind Waker and Twilight Princess? They're vastly different. Same for Prime3 vs. Metroid Other M. Always trying new stuff, new takes.

Yeah people tend to generally like good stuff. Lots of people said that Smash Bros was awesome and voted not to play the ripoff. It's the way these things work. Don't catch me on this but I think Sony even attempted a Kart clone. I hear it sold 10 copies.

Of course the GT games are going to look vastly similar with minor updates each time. Do you expect Sony to just leap into the future of graphics and physics and produce an entirely new game way ahead of its time?

Of course not. Just like Madden cannot be vastly different every time. It progresses along with technology, there's no vastly changing a simulator without a subsequent vast change in available technology.

As for the rest, I'm not even sure what you're going on about. Nintendo is better because they've been making games longer? Okay, not everyone shares your opinion there. Personally, I like the fact Sony has developers that can make one of the highest scoring trilogies of all time, and then produce an equally terrific new IP. I like the fact Sony covers just about every genre (including those covered by Nintendo). Games like LittleBigPlanet are relatable to Nintendo franchises but vastly different. There's no comparing the online sharing and creation abilities in LBP to what SMG does well, they're completely different. If you like one more than the other (apparently because it sells more) that's terrific, but you're not going to get far arguing that Nintendo consistently brings out more new and fresh ideas than the competition. Especially when Sony franchises generally receive a much better reception among critics, and enjoy a higher number of critically acclaimed new IPs each gen.

Edit: In response to your edit, there is no Uncharted 17. You seem to be taking the fact that Sony produced a great trilogy within a gen, and using that as a negative. Oh no, thankfully Nintendo doesn't produce a ton of high scoring trilogies in a short amount of time..

Also, Killzone is another poor comparison. Killzone is a FPS and is therefore tech and story dependent. Expecting that sort of game to have the same variety as a platformer, especially when you use platformers separated by nearly twenty years, is just ridiculous. You use Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, when ironically many Nintendo fans complained TP was just like Ocarina of Time. All of the Metroid Prime games looked a like, are they just like Killzone?

That was a terrible abomination

That's one of the reasons I'm not too fond of Sony. Almost none of their mascots really come back. Crash Bandicoot? Nope, they sold him. Parappa? Never heard from him again. MediEvil? No. Jak & Daxter? No. Ratchet & Clank? Yes, but nearly every game is bland and short. Twisted Metal? Didn't seem to make such a huge comeback, it just sorta came out and I never heard anyone talk about it. God of War & Killzone are the only ones that seems to come back again and again. That's why I fear for IPs of the PS3 generation like LittleBigPlanet & Uncharted. I feel like this may be the last time we see them again.

And I'm not saying they should continuously come back with new games like crazy. I would just like it if they were at least remembered and not just buried and ignored by Sony when the new IPs arrive.

Keep in mind I do like Sony games. I have a PS3 and plan on getting a PS4 so I can get Sony games & Nintendo games on my Wii U & 3DS, best of both worlds!

Graphics have nothing to do with it. They could have made Uncharted look and play different, same with Gran Turisimo.

Super Mario Bros. looks and plays similar to NSMB U even though one is 8 bit and one is freakin' HD. But Super Mario 64, Super Mario 3D Land, the Super Mario Galaxies, Super Mario RPG, Paper Mario and so on are different takes. In essence, they're so different it's ALL new "IP" which is just a meaningless buzzword. There's nothing new in creating another Zombie shooter game. It's not a new concept. There's nothing different if it's called Uncharted or Tomb Raider. It's about trying different approaches.

Games like Fifa looking the same every year are unimaginative. Fifa 1996 looks like Fifa 2013 with better graphics. But on the Wii games tried something different. For example if you take on a different perspective - the coach or the player, with a different control scheme. That is something new.

Nintendo has been there longer so it is more well known to the general public, and has stronger IP, there your buzz word, that has very little to do with anything.

Publisher Rankings show that Nintendo is usually ranked higher than Sony on metacritic. Last year it was a bit below, but usually higher. No Sony game has reached the heights of Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2 or Ocarina of Time in critic reception. In 2010, Nintendo was ranked 2nd (!) and Sony was pathetically ranked 7th. http://www.metacritic.com/feature/game-publisher-rankings-for... In fact, most Sony franchises are not getting that good scores, the recent God of War showed that the reviewers are tired of the same ol' thing I guess.

You're kidding. lol

It was a trilogy. Why would the first game be very different than the third game if the story was connected? Did you want Drake to become a rock star saving the planet from overgrown kittens taking over the world in a platformer?

Were you also upset Metroid Prime 1 was not radically different than Metroid Prime 2?

And what in the world do you want them to do with Gran Turismo? lol. Its a racing simulator. Do you want them to make cars drive differently than they do in real life? This is like the pinnacle of Nintendo fanboyism, saying Sony games are all alike because their racing simulator never dramatically deviates from being a racing simulator. lol

I almost think you're just doing this to screw with me.

So you are saying that there will not be an Uncharted 4 that will look exactly the same? Okay.
Prime 1 WAS radically different than Prime 2.
I don't know what they can do with GT because I don't care.

In case you missed it:
Publisher Rankings show that Nintendo is usually ranked higher than Sony on metacritic. Last year it was a bit below, but usually higher. No Sony game has reached the heights of Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2 or Ocarina of Time in critic reception. In 2010, Nintendo was ranked 2nd (!) and Sony was pathetically ranked 7th. http://www.metacritic.com/feature/game-publisher-rankings-for... In fact, most Sony franchises are not getting that good scores, the recent God of War showed that the reviewers are tired of the same ol' thing I guess.

Have you read any reviews for The Last of Us? If that's the sort of experience you're using as a negative for Sony, there's not much I can do here.

Yes, be thankful Nintendo doesn't have a similar experience. Would hate for such a highly regarded (even praised as an emotional, story driven experience) game be forced upon Nintendo fans because its 'just like Tomb Raider'.

actually the experience of metroid prime 2 WAS radically different

And yeah TP did have a similar structure like Ocarina of time, but that's to blame on the fans for wanting a Ocarina remake.

Silent Hill 1 PSX - Awesome
Silent Hill 2 PS2 - Better than awesome
Silent Hill 3 PS2 - Awesome
Silent Hill 4 PS2 - Alright but not as good
Silent Hill Homecoming PS3 - Poop fest
Silent Hill Downpour PS3 - Poop and snooze fest
Silent Hill HD Collection PS3 - Let's not go there shall we... What were Konami thinking?

I still have my PS2 underneath a pile of debris somewhere so I can play the classics though

Yeah, we get it. Naughty Dog (you do know that Sony only acquired this 1986 founded company in 2001 right?) received great scores on their recent movie, sorry, game.
God of War though stank.
Nintendo meanwhile released vastly different games of different IPs for amazing reviews: Fire Emblem, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion. That's variety for you.

But you know this isn't the NES days anymore where there was like 1 place to go for the complete gaming experience.

That is only a good sign I guess. I just choose Nintendo because I like their games the most, easy as that right? what is the problem again?

Considering the devs have said they're done with that and have moved on to developing another game, why would I assume there will be a fourth game?

Okay.
Prime 1 WAS radically different than Prime 2.
I don't know what they can do with GT because I don't care.

How was Prime 2 radically different than Prime 1? lol

And you don't know how they could change GT, but you're going to keep ridiculing them because they're not changing it? (Ignoring the fact its a SIMULATOR lol)

In case you missed it:
Publisher Rankings show that Nintendo is usually ranked higher than Sony on metacritic. Last year it was a bit below, but usually higher. No Sony game has reached the heights of Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Galaxy 2 or Ocarina of Time in critic reception. In 2010, Nintendo was ranked 2nd (!) and Sony was pathetically ranked 7th. http://www.metacritic.com/feature/game-publisher-rankings-for... In fact, most Sony franchises are not getting that good scores, the recent God of War showed that the reviewers are tired of the same ol' thing I guess.

I can go down this road..

Wii games made by Nintendo over 90 on metacritic: 8
PS3 games made by Sony over 90 on metacritic: 14

Feel free to shift the goal posts, as I'm sure you will, but the result will be the same.

Who is saying that's a problem? lol

Its been said repeatedly in this thread that people like different things. Yet when someone mentions Sony as also having good exclusives, Nintendo fans act as if you've just insulted their heritage and denounced their family.

Obviously you never even played the Prime series if you're asking that.
No, you can't go down that road. Because the Publisher Rankings made a more scientific analysis. You're also incorrect. And seemed to forget the existance of other Nintendo and Sony consoles. Well I understand why you forgot for Sony... the PSP is not filled with greatly reviewed games after all.

here it is...

DS above 90 for Nintendo:
Flipnote Studio
Mario Kart DS
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
Advance Wars: Dual Strike

For Sony:
God of War (before the last flop.)