I was looking at an issue of Nintendo Power, saying NSMBWii is the first Mario consle platformer in 18 years. However, Yoshi's Island came out 14 years ago. Would you count that game as part of the Super Mario canon?

Canon ? Yes. But Yoshi´s Island is a... well, a Yoshi platformer

I always thought Yoshi's Island counted as a Mario game. Guess not. It's still a fun game, though.

It's story canon, but frequently not called a "Mario" platformer. Basically, SeniorDingDong has it right: It's a YOSHI platformer! That makes the basic gameplay VERY different from a Mario platformer, hence the distinction.

For me a main series Mario game is a platform game, staring Mario, on a console.

You dont actually play asd mario in yoshis island. I guess techinically you dont play as mario weh nriding yoshi in any mario game.

I agree with you.

Now the question is, is Super Mario Bros 2 USA (not Lost Levels) canon to main series? I would say yes since it has Mario and no since it's Doki Doki Panic the real game.

I wouldn't say so. You do play as Yoshi after all...

Well, in my most humble of opinions, on this fine Christmas Day - I'd say yes.

I would agree with Trin. It's not exactly difficult to make a game canon when the story turns out to be a dream anyway, now is it? The canon comes more from the classic Mario enemies that have stuck around since that title.

Yeah, first appearance of the Bob-omb, etc.

Yoshi's Island is a part of the Yoshi series.

Yoshi's Egg
Yoshi's Cookie
Yoshi's Island
Yoshi's Story
Yoshi's Island DS

i don't remember ( may be wrong, though) bob-ombs in Yoshi's Island. and they were in Super Mario World... which considering Yoshi's Island was Super Mario World 2... i'm gonna take a wild guess and say it was NOT their first appearance.

and no, i don't think Yoshi's Island should count as a Mario series game. it's a Yoshi series game.

Maybe if it was the only "Yoshi" game, I would consider it, but since there really are "Mario games" and "Yoshi games", this one definitely falls under "Yoshi no geimu"

@bro2dragons: He was talking about SMB2 in that post, not Yoshi's Island.

ah. guess i missed that. my bad.

@StarFox: You forgot Yoshi Touch & Go.

@TwilightV: If we're nitpicking his list, let's not forget Topsy Turvey and Safari.

I think it's a spin-off even though it has Super Mario World 2/Advance 3 under its title.

Yoshi's Island should be considered a spin off.

Mario 2 (us) has become cannon now as all the enemies, luigi's jump, and other small things from that game have become standard.