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WildMan

81. Posted:

Spoony_Tech wrote:

If they updated the graphics and sold it for 29.99 on the 3ds i'd buy it in a heart beat!

I'd rather have it be Sunshine, and have it be on Wii U instead of the 3ds :P...

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One thing i think we can all agree on is that New Super Mario Bros. 2 should of never of been made. ;)

Both New Super Mario Bros 2 and 3D Land could have been just fine in 60fps. (Both released too early I think. I would have preferred other stuff until they had mastered the hardware better).

I actually haven't played NSMB.2, but it looks like a complete waste. NintenFiller if you will, just to make a quick buck. :P But seriously....it runs in 30fps!?
A sidescroller that runs in 30fps is a no go in my books. I tried playing Trine 2, Giena sisters and the New Castle of illusion(PS3) but they looked hideous in motion ON an HDTV due to the frame doubling 30fps effect. Sidescrollers shouldn't be below 60fps, it's just unacceptable. It's irritating and distracting, but if you're playing these games on an LCD or LED the motion blur/smearing will just hide that horrible effect, so you'll never really know haha. i've got a plasma which has better motion handeling, so the effect is easily noticeable!

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83. Posted:

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I first played the Wii VC version somewhere around year 2010, having played the Galaxies and Sunshine before. I wanted to get some more 3D-Mario goodness so Mario 64 was the natural way to go; I was really pumped up for it too having read all the reviews basically calling it the greatest game there ever was or will be.

So when I fired up the game, my mind not tinted by nostalgia... I was sorely disappointed. Being an N64 game graphics of course are what they are, but the camera is horrendous, the controls are slippery and I wasn't a fan of the level design either. It just wasn't fun. Maybe it gets better later on; I stopped playing after, like 10 stars.

Tl;Dr: Yes it's over-rated and has aged poorly.

It seems this thread has found some new life, so I might as well repost my old statement, of which I still stand behind BTW. I can appreciate it's achievements being the forerunner of 3D-platforming and all, but I shan't ever like it as a standalone game, just like I admire the first computers, but I still wouldn't want to use an ineffective power hog the size of my room.

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84. Posted:

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I agree that NSMB2 is the most unnecessary game in the series, but I still had some fun with it. It's the most forgettable and uninspired, but the coin gimmick works surprisingly well. If it weren't for the focus on collecting coins it would be rather dull, but it's actually quite addicting.

New Super Mario Bros. U / Luigi U on the other hand, is by far the best in the series. It actually feels new for once. Not to mention that the visuals are outstanding and make the game feel much less generic.

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Guovssohas

85. Posted:

It's my all time favourite game, so for me it's not overrated by any means. :)

It really was something unique and special at the time. Everything was jawdropping, the looks, the worlds, controls, music. It has a special place in my gaming heart :)

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Bass_X0

86. Posted:

I waited about a year before getting New Super Mario Bros. 2 - I wanted to get it quite cheap because I agree its unnecessary. Still a decent platformer but nothing you haven't already seen before from a Mario game.

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Geonjaha

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The game itself has aged well in my opinion, the graphics maybe not. I never played the N64 version, I have however played the DS version. Bear in mind I believe that Ocarina of Time has aged badly having played the 3DS version and not the N64 version once again (just to give another example), so make of that what you wish.

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Geno92

88. Posted:

Yes, It's overrated, But I don't care.

Still one of the best games ever. I never 100% until about two years ago. I remeber trying to figure out how to get some of the stars as a nine yeat old sitting in front of my n64. Now I can breeze through the game so fast on the Wii. For those of you who say older games are harder, think again. I still have a hard time with that one star in Super Mario Galaxy. You know, Luigi's Purple Coins? Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Super Mario 64 was overall easier than that one star in SMG.

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RetroChaos-X

89. Posted:

Hell no. Super Mario 64 is a fantastic platformer and is revelutionary for it's time, if you like Mario then this will certainly be fun for you - it definitely reaches top 5 Mario games for me.

...Having said that, I personally would get Star Fox 64 - it is one of my favourite games ever and I love it, in addition, you could always get Super Mario 64 DS, which is the same game but with minigames and extra playable characters.

No matter what you do though, I guarentee you will be satisfied with your decision.

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90. Posted:

It's a good game, but I think people are clinging too much to the past. Games have evolved from Mario 64. Super Mario 64 was a revolutionary game, and that shouldn't be discounted, but so many games have expanded and improved upon the concepts presented in it. Saying Mario 64 is the best 3D platformer of all time is like saying Adventure for the Atari is the best Action-Adventure game of all time just because it introduced the concept. We need to respect games that made evolutionary strides, but we shouldn't hail it as the best game ever when other games have refined and improved that formula. In regards to it being called one of the best games of all time, yes it is overrated. In regards to it being an extreme evolutionary step in gaming, it deserves the acclaim.

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91. Posted:

No. It should be studied in depth by anyone wanting to pursue a career in the video game industry. I've been playing it since it came out and still learning from it.

It's up there with Mega Man, Pac-Man, Super Mario Bros., The Legend Of Zelda, and Metal Gear Solid 2 as game you must play.

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92. Posted:

Geno92 wrote:

I still have a hard time with that one star in Super Mario Galaxy. You know, Luigi's Purple Coins? Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Super Mario 64 was overall easier than that one star in SMG.

Is that the one where you have to collect 100 purple coins on the 8 bit luigi and when you step on a tile it starts revolving or disappearing?

Yeah that one is difficult.

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93. Posted:

ogo79 wrote:

the nintendo 64 was overrated as a whole.
thats the new wave "retro" gaming system played by abercrombie and finch, leather, loafer wearing guys.
dont like my comment, deal with it.

haha. To only have an N64 during that generation and not a PS1 must of been totally depressing. The N64 was a disaster imo, the bad greatly out weighed the greats and even the groovy greats for the most part have aged more poorly than popeye himself! due to their below '30' unstable frame rates...Ocarina of time, Majora's mask and golden eye 007 just to name a few fall into this category. I dont have much love for the gamecube either, it was a nice step up but at that point i was getting tired of traditionally controlled 3D videogames.

I also owned the saturn during that generation as well, that was until the PS1 was released...Then it went bye bye. Battle Arena toshinden, Jumping Flash!, Tomba!, Rayman, Mega Man 8 & X4, Resident Evil, Ridge Racer, parapa the rappa,Rug Rats:Search for Raptor(don't ask!),and many more rocked my 32-bit world While my N64 gathered Dust man dust. ;) I'll admit i absolutely hated the PS1 during the late 90's(while also hating that period during the decade itself) but it's first 2 years imo were spectacular. Everything got too serious towards the end of the 90's and the those colorful, cheerie and imagintivie titles were few and far between.

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94. Posted:

ogo79 wrote:

the nintendo 64 was overrated as a whole.

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95. Posted:

CountWavula wrote:

ogo79 wrote:

the nintendo 64 was overrated as a whole.
thats the new wave "retro" gaming system played by abercrombie and finch, leather, loafer wearing guys.
dont like my comment, deal with it.

haha. To only have an N64 during that generation and not a PS1 must of been totally depressing. The N64 was a disaster imo, the bad greatly out weighed the greats and even the groovy greats for the most part have aged more poorly than popeye himself! due to their below '30' unstable frame rates...Ocarina of time, Majora's mask and golden eye 007 just to name a few fall into this category. I dont have much love for the gamecube either, it was a nice step up but at that point i was getting tired of traditionally controlled 3D videogames.

I also owned the saturn during that generation as well, that was until the PS1 was released...Then it went bye bye. Battle Arena toshinden, Jumping Flash!, Tomba!, Rayman, Mega Man 8 & X4, Resident Evil, Ridge Racer, parapa the rappa,Rug Rats:Search for Raptor(don't ask!),and many more rocked my world 32-bit world While my N64 gathered Dust man dust. ;) I'll admit i absolutely hated the PS1 during the late 90's(while also hating that period during the decade itself) but it's first 2 years imo were spectacular.

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8BitSamurai wrote:

ogo79 wrote:

the nintendo 64 was overrated as a whole.

This dood gets my complete backing, and unequivocal support.

These two crud dudes get my support.

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97. Posted:

Super Mario 64 DS was the first video game I ever really played. This was for two reasons.
a) I'm young.
b) I got a DS for my birthday.
I loved this game from the very beginning. As far as I know, the DS version is just a port of the original with updated graphics. For 1000 Nintendo Points, it's well worth it.

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No offense to the young folk of these forums but I feel as if you don't really understand how great this game was. The transition from 2D to 3D was an amazing time period to expierence. It was also a weird time of devs making games to be 3D just for sake of it even if it was a game that would have been a lot better in 2D. I guess if you are in your late 20's or older you see these games that were ground breaking at the time as being great but then again I guess that could be nostalgia making everything more rosey for me since it has been a long time since I have played Mario 64.

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SNES_JRPG

99. Posted:

No Mario 64 is not overrated. The N64 is underrated. It's probably the most underrated console ever along with the dreamcast and the saturn. If there is anyone who disagrees with me and thinks its a bad console then I would like to have a few words with you.

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100. Posted:

SNES_JRPG wrote:

No Mario 64 is not overrated. The N64 is underrated. It's probably the most underrated console ever along with the dreamcast and the saturn. If there is anyone who disagrees with me and thinks its a bad console then I would like to have a few words with you.

I'm probably one of those that you would like to share a few words with. ;)

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