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8BitSamurai

121. Posted:

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CountWavula wrote:

It felt like such a downgrade after owning the SNES.

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Completely agree. The games just had so much more life and personality (And just played a lot better!) on the SNES, IMO. Mario RPG felt a lot more polished and complete than Paper Mario, Yoshi's Story was a shell of Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong 64 was another collect-a-thon, Mario 64 didn't have the tight platforming and great controls or Super Mario World, Kirby 64 didn't even come near close to being the greatness of Super Star, or even Dreamland 3, OoT just wasn't didn't play as smooth and didn't have the charm of A Link to the Past, etc. I know it's opinion, but still, I think they just had so much more charm on the SNES, and then on the GameCube.

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122. Posted:

If anything made the N64 worth owning it was at least this gem of a game.

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WaveBoy

123. Posted:

8BitSamurai wrote:

SNES_JRPG wrote:

Yeah what problems do you have with the N64? State all problems.

Bizarre controller

  • Analog sticks are infamous for losing tightness after limited play
  • Rumble pak devours batteries, and awkward and clumsy to use with other controller accessories

Poorly designed hardware

Ancient cartridge format

Very, very, limited game library

  • Almost all of Nintendo's close 3rd party developers jumped ship for the PlayStation (Case in point, Squaresoft, Namco, Konami, Capcom, etc.)
  • No RPG's
  • No fighters
  • No shmups
  • Few racing games
  • Very few strategy games
  • No 2D games of any variety
  • Numerous other genres completely missing in any form
  • Despite it's small library, much of it is known for poor quality
  • No Metroid, its Kirby game is generally acknowledged as one of the weakest entries, Donkey Kong was a Banjo knock-off, Yoshi's Story was poorly received, its Mario Kart is commonly thought of as one of the weakest entries along with it's Mario RPG,
  • This is personal opinion, but many, many horribly overrated games, including (But certainly not limited to) Mario 64, both Zeldas, and Banjo-Kazooie

The worst part is, this is just scratching the surface!

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Looks like somebody just won the thread. ;) I mean honestly there isn't much to add after reading that, you've ,managed to dissect that little overrated piece of NintenJunk64 quite nicely! But you're wrong about one thing.......FMV's did exist on the N64, I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure I remember Resident Evil 2's opening FMV looking distorted & fuzzy on the N64 Vs the PS1 version. :P Plus, the in-game graphics had blurrier textures(Big surprise there), but perhaps my soggy memories are frazzled & fogged, better bust out the Wave windshield wipers! :*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP6M7Uw2diw

To be honest, i would of been better off owning the PS1 and saturn that generation, because there were only about 10 or so games on the N64 that i was even remotely interested in playing, heck i didn't even give Ocarina of time a chance, i just couldn't get into it for some odd ball reason. Also Diddy Kong racing was one of the biggest piles of crap i've ever played racing-wise. I can't Believe how high reviewers scored that game. My brother played it almost every day before going to school, the soundtrack has been officially embedded in my 8-bit mother brain! Heck, i even had to watch my X play it with her cousin split screen(The frame rate was a disgrace, must of been running in 10 frames haha) years ago and she just never i understood why i wouldn't jump in on the action, silly N64 kids :P

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OptometristLime

124. Posted:

Wow a long bullet point list of reasons why you don't like a system? That's a pretty compulsive interest, in that loathsome hardware. :D

For me it never comes down to the system specifications, and if Nintendo has proven anything it's that first-party games on their systems are fun. Period.

The N64 came out at just the right portion of my childhood to be captivating; its visual style, perhaps ragged to some eyes, made a lasting impression. [no I'm not referring to blindness, hehe ]
While I don't have an N64 of my own, 1080 Snowboarding is one of my favorite games on the Virtual Console.

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125. Posted:

This needs to be a separate thread :|

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SkywardLink98

126. Posted:

99% of old games that have been praised as best game(s) of all time are over rated. Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past bored me to the point I just stopped playing. It's best to just accept now that whenever someone says an older game is one of the best games of all time they're assuming you have nostalgia for the game. If you don't, it's no where near as good as they say it is.

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127. Posted:

CountWavula wrote:

But you're wrong about one thing.......FMV's did exist on the N64, I might be wrong, but i'm pretty sure I remember Resident Evil 2's opening FMV looking distorted & fuzzy on the N64 Vs the PS1 version. :P Plus, the in-game graphics had blurrier textures(Big surprise there), but perhaps my soggy memories are frazzled & fogged, better bust out the Wave windshield wipers! :*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP6M7Uw2diw

Yeah, there were 4 games that had some FMV on the Nintendo 64, but it was pretty minimal. Resi 2 was one of them, but they were super duper fuzzy and low-quality compared to the PS1 version. Also, that version had really compressed audio and bad fire effects and things like that. ( http://www.lensoftruth.com/retro-head2head-resident-evil-2/ )

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Wow a long bullet point list of reasons why you don't like a system? That's a pretty compulsive interest, in that loathsome hardware. :D

Yeah :P, after hearing the praise for this system day in and day out this has become some personal subject of mine.

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This needs to be a separate thread :|

I think you're right, actually. Sorry for the thread hi-jacking OP!

Funny how new systems are out and here we are debating almost 20 year old hardware :D Oh well, I like it.

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128. Posted:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

99% of old games that have been praised as best game(s) of all time are over rated. Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past bored me to the point I just stopped playing. It's best to just accept now that whenever someone says an older game is one of the best games of all time they're assuming you have nostalgia for the game. If you don't, it's no where near as good as they say it is.

Looks at Avy, then looks at name. '98' huh? Alright, i guess it's hard for younger gamers who started out with the Gamecube or Wii to have any sort of decent appreciation for the classics. ALTTP and OOT 3D were both amazing during the time, and like most SNES games ALTTP is timeless, can't say the same about OOT! :P The NintenJunk64 was the beginning of the end for the Big N until the Wii arrived. ;) Gamecube wasn't too shabby, but it has absolutely nothing on the NES & SNES.

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129. Posted:

The NES was junk from start to finish. (What is worse Nintendo's practices stopped the West getting the decent TG16 versions). The Master System is more tolerable and I don't really like that either. (SNES / TG16 / Megadrive are fine - don't like the filters they use on some of them on the virtual console though).

I hated the sprite flicker then and I hate it even more now. Nintendo of America sucked all the life out of many of the best games as well. (i.e Castlevania III).

It cannot be nostalgia for me because at the time I hated Super Castlevania IV and didn't get into the series due to that until I played Rondo of Blood pretty recently.

The N64 could have done 2D better than the Playstation if somebody chose to. Could have made a CD addon for the expansion slot and had the main game on cartridge and some of the assets on CD. 8 Meg Ram. The DSP nobody used much other than Rare. The 64DD could have provided enough.

(What I don't like is sprite flicker / slowdown / jagged 3D / Gamecube dpad).

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130. Posted:

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Stopped reading the moment you said "the NES was junk from start to finish"
Based on what i've seen of your comments, you don't seem to like anything. :P

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131. Posted:

CountWavula wrote:

@unrandomscam
Stopped reading the moment you said "the NES was junk from start to finish"
Based on what i've seen of your comments, you don't seem to like anything. :P

oooh! he told you!

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132. Posted:

ogo79 wrote:

CountWavula wrote:

@unrandomscam
Stopped reading the moment you said "the NES was junk from start to finish"
Based on what i've seen of your comments, you don't seem to like anything. :P

oooh! he told you!

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133. Posted:

I still vividly remember swinging Bowser around by his tail. It was awesome.

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134. Posted:

I remember the first time I saw this game on display at a Toys R Us. It blew the 11 year old me away. I played it and it was a complete game changer as far as gaming goes. I wouldn't say it's one of my favorite games ever, BUT, it's definitely not over-rated. It deserves all the praise it gets. It was one of the most fun and memorable games of it's time, that's for sure.

Now.. a game that is over-rated is Ocarina of Time. Especially when compared to Majora's Mask. ;)

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135. Posted:

I'm not even going to cause controversy here............

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136. Posted:

I don't think Super Mario 64 is overrated at at, especially since upon it's release there was nothing quite like it and it lit a path for what 3D games could (and would) become in the future. The game featured amazing graphics, smooth control, and amazing music that created an atmosphere that no other game could touch up until that point, it was truly a trend setter and a title that will always live on as the game that truly led the "next generation" into gaming. I'm serious, its that damn important. Was the game perfect? Of course not, no game really is. But what this game did for the landscape of video games was important and if people don't recognize that than there really is no help for them.

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137. Posted:

Both Luigi's Mansion 2: Dark Moon and the first Super Mario Galaxy are overrated. Super Mario 64 deserves all of that praise and then some, you'd understand if you grew up playing the NES & SNES during the 80's and early 90's and THEN all of the sudden shifted over to Barren polygons with full 3D analog control hehe. Mario 64 truly was. was groundbreaking. Still doesn't hold a candle to 2,3,World & 1. ;)

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