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Topic: Gamecube Vs. Wii, which had the best Library?

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Ryno

21. Posted:

I'm really disappointed to see the hate for motion controls here.

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19Robb92

22. Posted:

Wii, by far.

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smirg

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TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

GameCube. The Wii's forced motion controls somewhat killed the console for me, regardless of how good some of the games were otherwise.

Actually, most Wii games support the Classic or GameCube controller.

Not some of the most prominent first party titles which has a big impact on my overall opinion of the system.

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TheMisterManGuy

24. Posted:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

GameCube. The Wii's forced motion controls somewhat killed the console for me, regardless of how good some of the games were otherwise.

Actually, most Wii games support the Classic or GameCube controller.

Not some of the most prominent first party titles which has a big impact on my overall opinion of the system.

Well Nintendo's games almost always use motion controls right.

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kkslider5552000

25. Posted:

Everytime someone complains about motion controls for games they didn't play, they gain 10 pounds.

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the wii did. the support from sega/xseed/namco/tecmo/askys and on and on. i think a lot of wii owners never looked to far outside the first party game. unfortunate realy.

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Jim_Purcell

27. Posted:

kkslider5552000 wrote:

Everytime someone complains about motion controls for games they didn't play, they gain 10 pounds.

Mostly from their growing neckbeard.

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unrandomsam

28. Posted:

I like what the 3rd parties did better on the Gamecube even though there was less of it.

There is nothing on the Wii from Sega for example that I think is better than

Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
F-Zero GX (Sega Made it)
Skies of Arcadia Legends

Even the ports they are all really good so it is not a problem.

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29. Posted:

Gamecube is, i guess. Wii does have good games, you just have to search a little more.

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smirg

30. Posted:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

GameCube. The Wii's forced motion controls somewhat killed the console for me, regardless of how good some of the games were otherwise.

Actually, most Wii games support the Classic or GameCube controller.

Not some of the most prominent first party titles which has a big impact on my overall opinion of the system.

Well Nintendo's games almost always use motion controls right.

Gamers wouldn't trash the Wii so badly if that were true. I even think Skyward Sword was ruined because of the motion controls.

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TheMisterManGuy

31. Posted:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

GameCube. The Wii's forced motion controls somewhat killed the console for me, regardless of how good some of the games were otherwise.

Actually, most Wii games support the Classic or GameCube controller.

Not some of the most prominent first party titles which has a big impact on my overall opinion of the system.

Well Nintendo's games almost always use motion controls right.

Gamers wouldn't trash the Wii so badly if that were true. I even think Skyward Sword was ruined because of the motion controls.

Skyward Sword's controls were fine, they actually added strategy to the sword combat. Really though, the people who just hate motion controls either

A. Look at all the gimmicky shovelware that the Wii was plagued with

B. Don't even come up with a good reason for hating Motion controls other than just "OH ITZ A GIMMICK HERP DE DERP!!!"

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ejamer

32. Posted:

So posting this in the retro forum will color the results - post in the Wii forum and you might get a different result.

But it doesn't change the fact that — to me — Wii had the better overall library. Both consoles had great games but for every great game released on GameCube (and there were many) you can list something great on Wii to balance out. But Wii takes the edge because it benefited from enhanced re-releases of some classic GameCube titles, the introduction of WiiWare and Virtual Console, and full backwards compatibility of the hardware. Added bonus: buying a Wii is cheaper than buying GameCube component cables.

Anything GameCube can do, Wii can do better*. Doesn't mean GCN isn't awesome too... but if you could only own one console it's an easy choice.

*Exception: GameBoy Player.

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33. Posted:

Here's more reasons I prefer the Gamecube.

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Beetlejuice

34. Posted:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

GameCube. The Wii's forced motion controls somewhat killed the console for me, regardless of how good some of the games were otherwise.

Actually, most Wii games support the Classic or GameCube controller.

Not some of the most prominent first party titles which has a big impact on my overall opinion of the system.

Well Nintendo's games almost always use motion controls right.

Gamers wouldn't trash the Wii so badly if that were true. I even think Skyward Sword was ruined because of the motion controls.

Skyward Sword's controls were fine, they actually added strategy to the sword combat. Really though, the people who just hate motion controls either

A. Look at all the gimmicky shovelware that the Wii was plagued with

B. Don't even come up with a good reason for hating Motion controls other than just "OH ITZ A GIMMICK HERP DE DERP!!!"

Or maybe they would rather just sit back in a chair or lie on a couch and play games with a regular controller, rather than sit upright directly in front of the TV and have to wave their hands around in the air?

Nahhhhh, it can't just be that....

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Nintenjoe64

35. Posted:

The Gamecube had two of my all time favourite ever games, RE4 and ED:SR but the Wii had an enhanced version of RE4 which I re-bought and enjoyed even more than the original. I think the Wii will edge it because it has more games and unique games that I couldn't imagine never playing again whereas the Gamecube just had some outstanding games that I may forget one day.

In terms of Nintendo games:
Mario Galaxy>Sunshine
Mario Kart Wii>Double Dash
Brawl>Melee (don't care what the pros say. Take 100 average gamers who've played neither before and see which one they prefer)
Metroid Prime 3 = Metroid Prime (couldn't call it)
WW + TP = TP + SS (couldn't call it)

I only posted this to get my avatar as the forum's thumbnail.

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Nintenjoe64

36. Posted:

Beetlejuice wrote:

Or maybe they would rather just sit back in a chair or lie on a couch and play games with a regular controller, rather than sit upright directly in front of the TV and have to wave their hands around in the air?

Nahhhhh, it can't just be that....

If you had to play like that, you were doing it wrong. If you think pressing one button to attack is better than actually having to aim and time your sword swings then you should stick to Assassin's Creed and Arkham games. Skyward Sword is my least favourite Zelda but it had the best controls of any game ever made.

I only posted this to get my avatar as the forum's thumbnail.

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TheMisterManGuy

37. Posted:

Beetlejuice wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

GameCube. The Wii's forced motion controls somewhat killed the console for me, regardless of how good some of the games were otherwise.

Actually, most Wii games support the Classic or GameCube controller.

Not some of the most prominent first party titles which has a big impact on my overall opinion of the system.

Well Nintendo's games almost always use motion controls right.

Gamers wouldn't trash the Wii so badly if that were true. I even think Skyward Sword was ruined because of the motion controls.

Skyward Sword's controls were fine, they actually added strategy to the sword combat. Really though, the people who just hate motion controls either

A. Look at all the gimmicky shovelware that the Wii was plagued with

B. Don't even come up with a good reason for hating Motion controls other than just "OH ITZ A GIMMICK HERP DE DERP!!!"

Or maybe they would rather just sit back in a chair or lie on a couch and play games with a regular controller, rather than sit upright directly in front of the TV and have to wave their hands around in the air?

Nahhhhh, it can't just be that....

You don't always have to stand up to use motion controls.

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Beetlejuice

38. Posted:

Nintenjoe64 wrote:

Beetlejuice wrote:

Or maybe they would rather just sit back in a chair or lie on a couch and play games with a regular controller, rather than sit upright directly in front of the TV and have to wave their hands around in the air?

Nahhhhh, it can't just be that....

If you had to play like that, you were doing it wrong. If you think pressing one button to attack is better than actually having to aim and time your sword swings then you should stick to Assassin's Creed and Arkham games.

Oh really? Are you telling me then that it was possible to lay on your side on a couch, or flop over the side of a chair and play using the wiimote/nunchuck without flicking your wrist and waving shaking your first in the air while you aim the control directly at the black bar under your TV?

Sometimes I play a game while I'm in bed. It's a hell of a lot easier to just lay back with a controller than it is to have to prop yourself up with a pillow and make sure you are perfectly centered with the TV and moving your hands around.

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Skyward Sword is my least favourite Zelda but it had the best controls of any game ever made.

I quit playing the game because it was such a chore. Many people complained about the controls, more than for most games, so I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that a game whose controls are so hotly debated has "the best ever".

And what's wrong with the controls of the Arkham games? They are very intuitive for combat and work very well. I don't get it...

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WaveBoy

39. Posted:

Wii, again, by far!

I was in and out of the gamecube era....That console lacked that distinct nintendo magic of the NES, SNES, Wii and even the N64. Perhaps, because it didn't exactly do anything really innovative. It's library is solid and all, if you can get over the fact that there's nothing to offer for the 2D junkie in mind(Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2 and Alien hominod only spring to mind, and that crappy Mega Man Network transmission game.

The Wii however was outstanding, when motion controls are done right they're an absolute revolution. The gamecube era in no way shape or form offered the same amount of fun that the wii had given me. plus there's the Virtual console which is a god send. It introduced me to the castlevania series tee hee

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40. Posted:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

Beetlejuice wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

TheMisterManGuy wrote:

smirg wrote:

GameCube. The Wii's forced motion controls somewhat killed the console for me, regardless of how good some of the games were otherwise.

Actually, most Wii games support the Classic or GameCube controller.

Not some of the most prominent first party titles which has a big impact on my overall opinion of the system.

Well Nintendo's games almost always use motion controls right.

Gamers wouldn't trash the Wii so badly if that were true. I even think Skyward Sword was ruined because of the motion controls.

Skyward Sword's controls were fine, they actually added strategy to the sword combat. Really though, the people who just hate motion controls either

A. Look at all the gimmicky shovelware that the Wii was plagued with

B. Don't even come up with a good reason for hating Motion controls other than just "OH ITZ A GIMMICK HERP DE DERP!!!"

Or maybe they would rather just sit back in a chair or lie on a couch and play games with a regular controller, rather than sit upright directly in front of the TV and have to wave their hands around in the air?

Nahhhhh, it can't just be that....

You don't always have to stand up to use motion controls.

Yeah I rarely had to lift my arms up when playing Skyward Sword. I think the only time I did this was when I was using the Bow.

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