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GuardianKing

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I was just curious whether the Dreamcast was still worth the buy or not. If so, what are some good games for it?

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Spuratis

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Shenmues, Seaman, Phantasy Star Online, Grandia II, PowerStone, Skies of Arcadia, Resident Evil: Code Veronica, Zombie Revenge.. wait a minute... most of it's best games have been released on other systems. I'm not really sure if it'd be worth it unless you've had one before and have to go for the Nostalgia factor. I could be wrong though. If you're a collector, then why not? I have missed quite a few good games by the way, I just can't think of them at the moment.

I really wish I still had my Dreamcast.. in fact, I don't even know what happened to it. It's literally vanished from my possession and memory. I say if you can afford it and it intrigues you enough, then go for it. If you don't think you'll get your full use out of it.. then don't?

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sonicfan1373

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I have Dreamcast, and I feel I should warn you that the lenses on this system tend to go bad. My system works for some games but not for other high capacity games. So I guess you should get it for nostalgic purposes of having the system (and it is a wonderful and highly underrated game system) but if you just want it to play the games, then I would recommend looking elsewhere.

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Depends on how cheap you can get it. There's a lot of solid games on the thing, with Skies of Arcadia, Crazy Taxi and Dead or Alive 2 easily being my favorite games on the system. Pretty much every fighting game on the system is fantastic, too.

Also, fun fact about the Dreamcast: one of the most common reasons attributed to its demise (besides SEGA's terrible financial situation) was how rampant piracy was on the system. It was just so easy to rip games onto any old blank CD and copy a game on there. This meant 3rd parties were really reluctant to put games on in the future, regardless of sales numbers for the system.

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Samurai_Goroh

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Unfortunately, I have the same experience as the above poster with the Dreamcast's hardware. Amazing console for it's time, superb games, but the disc drive is not very reliable and eventually dies. You'll have a hard time finding a good condition console, I'm afraid.
This is why we need to have Dreamcast games on Virtual Console.

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sub12

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As a prior Dreamcast owner, I will say its an awesome system, but the dosen't mean it's for everybody..........I would ask you these questions?

~ Are you old enough / or play enough retro games to appreciate older titles (specifically late 90's / early 2000 polygonal titles)?

~ Do you enjoy placing racing games, fighting games, sports games, and or arcade-esqe third person action / light gun games?

~ If you have a controller that is non-dual joysticks, is that going to be a huge irritant or can you cope?

If you answered yes to the questions above, fork over the cash and call yourself a proud Dreamcast owner.

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Here are a list of games that I owned back in the day..........

Toy Commander (5/5)
Airforce Delta (3/5)
San Francisco Rush 2049 (5/5)
Fur Fighters (4/5)
Jet Grind Radio (5/5)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater (5/5)
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 (5/5)
Sonic Adventure (5/5)
Sonic Adventure 2 (5/5)
Dead or Alive 2 (4/5)
Resident Evil: Code Veronica (3/5)
Slave Zero (3/5)
Soulcalibur (5/5)
Daytona USA 2001 (5/5)
Sega Smash Pack (4/5)
Tom Calncy's Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear (4/5)
Hydro Thunder (5/5)
Seaman (2/5)
Shenmue (4/5, hard one to rate, it was ground breaking back in the day but I'm sure the flaws are pretty obvious now)
Crazy Taxi (4/5)
Crazy Taxi 2 (3/5)
The House of the Dead 2 (5/5)

...........any of the 2K sports games, pretty much a 4/5 to 5/5.

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arronishere

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I've got a Dreamcast still and I tried playing it the other day but the cable is busted so the image is rubbish, most of the games where ported to other consoles or you can get on stream which would be cheaper and easier than getting a Dreamcast.

It had a fantastic range of games, I had...
Crazy Taxi 1&2
Chu Chu Rocket
Soul Caliber
Jet Set Radio
Shenmue 1&2
Samba de Amigo
Virtua Striker 2
Marvel Vs Cpacom 2 (which you can only get from pre-owned games if you do go the other console/pc option)
Resident Evil Code: Veronica
Metropolis Street Racer
Rez
Space Channel 5
Sonic Adventure 1&2
House Of The Dead 2

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sub12

8. Posted:

You must be European, considering we never saw the Dreamcast versions of Rez and Shenmue 2 stateside.

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arronishere

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sub12 wrote:

You must be European, considering we never saw the Dreamcast versions of Rez and Shenmue 2 stateside.

Yep, I'm in the UK.

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RancidVomit86

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Yes it is. You could easily make the case for it being the best console ever made. Sega had an amazing group of 1st party devs at that time and they were all doing some stuff that was interesting. If you haven't had a Dreamcast do yourself a favor and get one asap.

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supermario182

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ya apparently you can just play legal games

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12. Posted:

Oh yeah it is! I play my Dreamcast regularly, and still hunt down new games for it. There's SO much good stuff out there!! A truly underrated system.

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unrandomsam

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I have Shenmue 1 & 2 / Gunlord / Crazy Taxi / Virtual Tennis 1 & 2 / Wacky Races (I prefer that type of AI to the Mario Kart let you win one).

I don't think the Dreamcast is underrated it is fairly easy to find out what stuff it has.

(Unlike say the PC Engine or Saturn.)

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I actually just got a Dreamcast about a month ago and I can safely say that it is an amazing console!!!!!!!!!!! I only have two games so far, but there is so much I want to get for the Dreamcast. Awesome console I say go for it. You could probably get it for under $50 with like 4 or 5 games and two controllers (with VMUs)

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spizzamarozzi

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My original Dreamcast is still connected to the telly - I play it regularly and love it, but honestly getting games for it is not as convenient as it was, say, in 2004 - 2006. Prices have sky-rocketed since this collector thingy has become popular and most of its essential games have been ported to other consoles for very cheap prices. Hidden gems such as Cannon Spike, Illbleed, Skies of Arcadia, Grandia II, EGG etc can be rather dear at the moment and probably not worth the investment.

It's a good machine if you like bullet hell shooters, but all the good ones are overpriced (and the bad ones too). Same goes for 2D fighting games. Most people will tell you it has a great library but that's not true: it has 2 and a half good RPGs, it's full of unneeded PSX ports, 2D platformers are almost non-existent, it has more fishing games than all the other consoles put together and has no proper adventure game beside Shenmue. Yes it has Shenmue 1 & 2, which is the greatest saga ever, and if you like arcade style racing games it's heaven, but if you have a couple of consoles at home, you already have most of the stuff the Dreamcast can offer.

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WaveBoy

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So many of the DC classics have already been ported to other consoles but it's a console packed full of hidden gems and obscure JPN titles that never saw the light of day on the PS2. But yup, The DC was ahead of it's time back then. It FELT and looked like a next gen console which can't be said for the PS2 which essentially felt like a PS1 dipped in black(sporting one of the most ugliest console designs yet) with a new lick of next gen visual paint sporting the same recycled crappy dual shock controller.

Heck, the name 'Dreamcast' alone is quite possibly one of the most amazing console names in video game history. It just sucks that the DC died before it could even hit the mid point of it's life cycle. The VMU itself was just too gnarly. B-)

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House of the Dead 2 - (yet it's already available on the Wii U now with pointer support, so it's nor longer a console exclusive)
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Anyhoo, you're probably better off getting a Master System, Genesis or Saturn. ;) ......Then again, i'm just speaking for myself. :* I've got no real desire to get the DC(again...), i'd much rather build up my Gamecube collection anyways if we're talking about that generation.

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spizzamarozzi

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WaveBoy wrote:

So many of the DC classics have already been ported to other consoles but it's a console packed full of hidden gems and obscure JPN titles that never saw the light of day on the PS1.

beside eastern shoot'em ups (which cost a fortune now) and fighting games, japanese titles that can be played by westerns are very very few. Most of the good stuff (Segagaga, July, Rent A Hero #1, Sakura Taisen 1 to 4) is too much japanese text based to be played without knowing the language. Even the so called "hidden gems" are just good games that won't blow anyone out of the water.

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Cannon Spike - (Featuring Mega Man)
Blue Stinger
Zombie Revenge
Toy Commandor
Power Stone
Power Stone 2 - (yes, i know they've been ported to the PSP, but these are much better on the big screen)
Chu Chu Rocket
House of the Dead 2 - (yet it's already available on the Wii U now with pointer support, so it's nor longer a console exclusive)
(ect ect...)

out of all these you mentioned, Toy Commander is probably the best exclusive game you can get. You know your console doesn't have a good library when you have to list a simple freebie game (Chu Chu Rocket) among the best exclusives. Cannon Spike is alright but in the end of the day it's just a 10 level long arcade game - and it's incredibly expensive considering how much content it offers. Blue Stinger is a rotten Resi clone. Zombie Revenge is boring and slow as hell (though it sounds good on paper). The Power Stone serie is good, but the second is now overpriced (and both have been ported). D2 should be a good game but I can't play it on my PAL machine. Geist Force could have been mega but it was abandoned.

It was a good console technically, but being a Dreamcast owner when it came out was far from being amazing. The system lacked games in key genres and what came out was sub par compared with what other consoles had (people got excited for Headhunter, if you know what I mean...). I remember I was desperate to find a decent football game for it (not good, just decent!) but they were all awful (starting from that pile of garbage that is Virtua Striker 2). Of course, being able to play Sega classic arcades on a home console was awesome, but they're arcade games after all, so you paid retail price for stuff that is supposed to be played 15 minutes a day...

It's a good machine, alright, but I hate the unrealistic way it is celebrated today. People seem to forget that its failure is not a mystery: it failed because nobody bought it - and nobody bought it because it didn't have enough good games.

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@spizzamarozzi Actually it was selling. It failed cause Sega could not financially do it anymore. And you do not sound like a Dreamcast owner at all. It had probably the best launch lineup we have ever seen so there was a big batch of games right off the bat and it got a steady stream of great Sega and Capcom games throughout it's lifespan. I really don't even know where the hell your conclusion on Dreamcast came from. Maybe you just wanted to be different and draw attention to yourself? That's not an insult, that's really just the best conclusion I can come to.

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RancidVomit86 wrote:

@spizzamarozzi Actually it was selling. It failed cause Sega could not financially do it anymore. And you do not sound like a Dreamcast owner at all. It had probably the best launch lineup we have ever seen so there was a big batch of games right off the bat and it got a steady stream of great Sega and Capcom games throughout it's lifespan. I really don't even know where the hell your conclusion on Dreamcast came from. Maybe you just wanted to be different and draw attention to yourself? That's not an insult, that's really just the best conclusion I can come to.

My conclusions come from the fact that I've always been a Dreamcast owner. I got one shortly after launch and that very same machine is still plugged to the telly. Being a Dreamcast owner doesn't mean to idolize the system - actually, most people who celebrate it nowdays didn't give a f*ck about it back then. To most videogamers, Dreamcast only became desiderable well after Sega retired from the hardware business, and you could get the console + a decent library of games for peanuts. Sega arcade and sport games could only do so much - the best stuff the Dreamcast had was Sega's non-arcade games. Capcom supported the system, fine, but their support mainly came through fighting games or psx ports - only three or four of their games were built with the system in mind: one of these (Code: Veronica) soon lost exclusivity and the rest wasn't spectacular. Sega wasn't going that well in any department; after the first year there were only like 70 games released in the west, if I remember correctly, and once the PS2 got released, Dreamcast sales practically stopped, so it wasn't selling. The launch lineup was good, but you can't build a console on fighting and racing games. The non-Sega games considered exclusive "hidden gems" (Cannon Spike, Sword of the Berserk, Illbleed, Blue Stinger etc) are not that amazing honestly. I remember it wasn't easy, for me, to rely on its limited library for all my gaming needs. Nintendo consoles might have lacked games the same way, but they always had most genres covered with quality titles - something Dreamcast didn't have.

I have no desire to be different, but all this love for Dreamcast sounds silly considering very few people loved it at its time.

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Part of the reason for Dreamcasts poor sales and library was the fact that Sega was still hurt by the whole Saturn debacle. After Sega pulled what they did with the Saturn alot of stores had really small sections for the Sega Dreamcast compared to the PS2 and the Gamecube sections, if they even had any.

Which this thread reminds me I need to get my Dreamcast collection going.

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