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Topic: Do you think the N64 Mini (if it is real) will be releasing soon?

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1UP_MARIO

@Cobalt I hope your right

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kkslider5552000

I honestly think they shouldn't bother if they can't get any Rare games (other than DK 64). Goldeneye and Banjo Kazooie mainly.

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I hope Paradigm Software's games make it. Pilotwings 64, Beetle Adventure Racing and Duck Dodgers were ace.

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ogo79

holy hell i hope not. make something productive out of plastic like trash cans to put all the original n64 systems in.

the_shpydar wrote:
As @ogo79 said, the SNS-RZ-USA is a prime giveaway that it's not a legit retail cart.
And yes, he is (usually) always right, and he is (almost) the sexiest gamer out there (not counting me) ;)

Cobalt

@1UP_MARIO

They have no choice then to do it because of the PSXmini...

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Trajan

@Tasuki If you rip your own ROMs its completely legal. Which having to rip them yourself for it to be legal does seem a bit silly to me, but oh well. Gotta transfer that 100% save on Goldeneye anyway.

Plus it will never be rereleased so your option is to rip a ROM, download a ROM, or only ever play it via composite on a N64. Forever. Because again, it will never come out again. So your option is either to limit yourself, or to not.

Apparently Rare was almost done with a remaster but had to scrap it for the same reason.

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Octane

@Darknyht Like Buizel said, storage isn't the issue. It's just that they know they can get away with less games, and a higher price because people perceive them as more valuable games. Putting Mario 64 on that system doesn't cost Nintendo anything. They only need to cover third party games and the hardware, but the latter shouldn't be expensive either, it's all mostly plastic anyway. And there's no advanced or overpriced tech in those mini consoles.

@Yosheel I don't need an N64 Mini to enjoy N64 games

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Buizel

Yosheel wrote:

Anyone else doesn’t need Rare games to enjoy a hypothetical N64 mini?

Me, although my preference will always be for N64 games on the Switch.

I think people overestimate Rare's impact on the N64. Sure, they were key players, but there's still a lot to love there. Although I think the issue with N64 is that most of the Nintendo titles (Mario, Zelda, MK, Smash) have been topped with modern sequels, whereas the Rare titles haven't.

At least 2'8".

Darknyht

@link3710 Simply put, SNES and NES games take a fraction of space that N64 games do (unless you are dealing with very late SNES Games that were 32MB). There is 512 MB of storage on the SNES Mini of which about 300 MB is usable after hacking. So if we put 20 games from the N64 (using only Nintendo owned titles) you end up using 421.7 MB. That means zero room for save states (which by the way will be a larger file because Nintendo likes rewind functionality).

At minimum they are going to have to update that capacity to either 1 or 2 GB. Plus they have to update the processor itself because the SNES mini struggles with N64 games (random freezes, no saving, etc.). Throw in the higher perceived value Nintendo places on the games ($10 a game vs. $5/$8) and they are going to either reduce the number of games or raise the cost (probably both). Both effect the sales potential of the system. I just don't see the math working out for them unless it is limited quantities like the original NES Classic Mini started as.

(20 Games used: Super Mario 64, Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Mario Kart 64, Paper Mario, Super Smash Bros., Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, Donkey Kong 64, F-Zero X, Star Fox 64, Mario Party, Pilotwings 64, Pokemon Snap, Wave Race 64, Yoshi's Story, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, 1080 Snowboarding, Excitebike 64, Kirby 64, Sin and Punishment)

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Eel

I don't really think N64 games need rewind, or would particularly benefit from it.

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link3710

@Darknyht Okay, so? Memory prices have fallen significantly (per usual) in the last three years, I'd be surprised if a 2 gb chip costs significantly more than a 512 mb chip 3 years ago.

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KingMike

@ogo79 Doom 640? (you know, we went from 30 to 21, so 10 sounds like the next step)

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ogo79

ReaderRagfish wrote:

@ogo79 Can you remind me again why you hate the N64? I got nothing against you for it but I'm just curious.

if you have nothing against me i havent been doing my job good enough

KingMike wrote:

@ogo79 Doom 640? (you know, we went from 30 to 21, so 10 sounds like the next step)

its better than 640 other n64 games

the_shpydar wrote:
As @ogo79 said, the SNS-RZ-USA is a prime giveaway that it's not a legit retail cart.
And yes, he is (usually) always right, and he is (almost) the sexiest gamer out there (not counting me) ;)

ogo79

@ReaderRagfish
fair enough

the_shpydar wrote:
As @ogo79 said, the SNS-RZ-USA is a prime giveaway that it's not a legit retail cart.
And yes, he is (usually) always right, and he is (almost) the sexiest gamer out there (not counting me) ;)

shadow-wolf

@BlueOcean Thanks for checking! That is great to hear. Unfortunately I've heard of the issues surrounding N64 games in terms of color output (in which N64 games, like NES games, look really dark), so I'm hoping for an N64 Mini or Switch release that properly emulates and upscales N64 games.

@Yosheel Me! I've heard the Rare games are excellent, but honestly Nintendo's own games released on the N64 are absolute gems. Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are my two most favorite Zelda games and are some of the best games the Zelda series has to offer. Star Fox 64 I haven't played, but people say it's the best Star Fox game Nintendo has released so far (for better or worse). Super Mario 64 is a classic. Although as @Buizel said, the issue is that a lot of these games have received sequels on successor consoles that improved both graphics and gameplay. So it'd be difficult to conjure up nostalgia for as many people as the NES mini and SNES mini did, although I didn't buy either of the aforementioned two but I'd be happy to buy an N64 Mini.

@Darknyht Nice analysis! I agree with you in that it'd likely have fewer games than the SNES mini at a higher price point. I think $100 is fairly likely given the PlayStation One Classic is launching at that price. Maybe 18-20 games would be fair as well. But what do you think about the PlayStation One Classic? Many of the negatives you've mentioned may be addressed with the PSOne Classic so we'll see how that plays out.

shadow-wolf

Nemodius

I'm not sure it would go well, honestly i think the novelty of the NES & SNES Minis is done, one thing helping them was price, but a 64 would probably go for $120-$150, and that's getting old to some people, I'd rather have ports anyway than half a dozen mini consoles on my entertainment center

I'd rather have NES, SNES, 64, GC "minis" sold as cartridges, the bonus of being able to take those games with me would be great too

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kkslider5552000

Buizel wrote:

I think people overestimate Rare's impact on the N64.

You think wrong. All of N64's top 10 best selling games were either Nintendo or Rare, no exceptions. With the exception of 2 Star Wars games (which I totally think Star Wars should be in an N64 classic as well, to be fair), this is also true in the top 20. Wikipedia has the top 45, and it's HEAVILY Nintendo published games, with Rare a major part of that. Goldeneye is massively important to N64, first person shooters and local multiplayer. Banjo Kazooie is basically the most beloved full-on collectathon platformer, along with the Spyro trilogy. Diddy Kong Racing, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, Conker's Bad Fur Day, Killer Instinct, all beloved games. Even Blast Corps was a highly acclaimed, million seller. BLAST CORPS.

So yes, having a lack of Rare on a system that's sold specifically for N64 nostalgia is stupid.

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