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Topic: Come on, give the Intellivision Amico some love, retro game fans. You know you want to... ;)

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ThanosReXXX

So, as far as we know now, it would appear that the team behind the spiritual successor to the original two Intellivison video game consoles is coming, and because I always wanted an Intellivision back when me and my cousins were still playing games on our simple Atari 2600, but I ultimately never got one, the prospect of getting a rebooted/re-imagined version has actually kind of reignited that old spark, and has certainly piqued my interest as a retro game lover, so I'm hoping that around October 2020, we might actually see this system come to live and land in stores.

In order to also try and ignite the spark in others, and to give the Intellivision some well deserved love, I decided to start this forum topic, and if it doesn't ignite any spark within people that are on the fence or simply just not interested, then it'll still be an interesting enough topic of conversation, for the other 9 people besides me, who were actually interested after having read that Earthworm Jim 3 article...
(or who were already interested last year, after having read the original article about the console itself)

And of course, if you actually did own, or still own, an actual vintage Intellivision I or II, then this is also the right place for you to share your thoughts, likes, dislikes and memories.

So, without further ado, here goes...

Let's start with a video, listing 10 things you need or might want to know, if you're interested in this system:

While looking at this video on YouTube, I also came across this video, which tells us about the history of the planned but never released Intellivision III and IV consoles. It might even be some food for thought which might explain/clarify why the team behind the current Intellivision concept are so adamant about reviving this classic, and in some ways pretty far ahead for its time, console brand...

Either way, enjoy the videos and let's start the discussion!

Edited on by ThanosReXXX

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HobbitGamer

No. 😜

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NintendoByNature

At the price point, it might be an impulse buy from me. At least for messing around with and some EWJ!

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Tasuki

This thing will be joining the Coleco Chameleon and Ouya soon enough.

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Moroboshi876

I don't see it being a success, especially in a market without available spots. Tell Sega about it. Tell Microsoft now, who is fighting to keep its share.

But I'd love it to be otherwise. Anyway, I'll follow the news and see what happens.

The Earthworm Jim "3" announcement is certainly appealing, but will this be enough of a killer app? It's bold, because not releasing it on the much more established systems will hurt its sales severely, and that would be a shame for a project like this, but I don't think we're going to see more appealing announcements like this one. After all, if the leader of the Intellivision Amico was a member of Earthworm Jim staff it's even natural what they just said. Not that we're going to see similar things in the future, am I right?

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Moroboshi876

According to this info, it looks more like a novelty, a sort of "classic-mini" with built-in games but with the possibility of acquiring more.

They're only going to release already existing games with a twist mostly, and more importantly, family friendly simple games with easy controls and gameplay.

It's not a bad idea actually, but hardly a system that will be remembered for many years after its release.

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FullbringIchigo

the problem is it's digital only and IF this crashes and burns (which it probably will) it doesn't even have the option of playing old Intellivison cart games

one of the reasons digital only console don't do well is because once the service goes down they are completely useless, just look at the Ouya

i don't even think the XB1s A.D will do that well either

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Moroboshi876

@FullbringIchigo But NES and SNES Mini have the same problem, right? They don't have access to the eShop, but don't have cartridge slots either. I'm certain that the Amico will have the same way to expand the library than those 2 mini consoles.

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FullbringIchigo

@Moroboshi876 kind of but i think the main difference there is that they are set games built in and they ain't designed to have any extra games so in 10 years time you can still play it and all the games on it

the NES Mini, SNES Mini, PlayStation Classic and Mega Drive Mini are just novelty plug and play systems at the end of the day, not systems whose longevity depend on continued support from publishers, like this new Intellivison is

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ThanosReXXX

@AlohaPizzaJack And that's the thanks I get, for trying to put up an interesting article in the forums...

@Tasuki The problem with the Chameleon was that it was never a real thing to begin with, and the Ouya was a highly outdated Android console, which basically made it a crippled smart phone or tablet in a box.

The Amico is made with proprietary 2D based chipsets, and is solely meant to reboot existing Intellivision and Atari games, so it's not meant for modern games or smart phone games.

And just look at the people behind it: almost half of the original Intellivision team, 3 ex-Nintendo executives, and at least 6 other industry veterans.

Now, that doesn't mean that this is going to be massively successful by default, but it sure as hell stands a far bigger chance to become a moderate success, at least, with such people behind it.

Most other efforts, even the most recent one from Polymega, are just enthusiast efforts, with hardly any big name people behind it. If any.

Intellivision fans will more than likely want to see this happen, and people that have a love for retro games, or even people with a preference for quirky little systems like this might also be highly interested.

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Darknyht

I grew up with an Intellivision II and a fairly large library of games (including an Intellivoice). As much as I love what is known as Minotaur, Nightstalker, and Tron: Deadly Discs; this probably isn't going to make much waves. The Imagic games (Atlantis, Tropical Trouble, Beauty and the Beast, Dragonfire) and Activison titles will probably be missing and they are some of the best, as will any of the licensed stuff that cannot be cleaned (Masters of the Universe, Tron, Bump N Jump, Burgertime, and a few others). All that is left is the same games that have been re-released over and over again.

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Heavyarms55

@HobbitGamer I didn't even know the Intellivision existed until I was in high school and AVGN did his video on it. lol

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Glowzinski

I got an email about a founders edition today. I have been following this thing for a long time.

I went to the site to look at the price. $299.99.

Now, first, I was excited. But then, I said "wait a second." haha There is no WAY, this thing will EVER be successful at that price.

Then I was reading more about it and saw that games, will be $2.99 - 9.99.

Who in the name of hell, is going to pay $10 for a game on a system like this? It is one of the worst pricing strategies I have ever seen.

I mean, I have every system there is. I can get a Switch or PS4 game, OR a game on my iPhone or iPad for less than that. Then, even if it is the same price or more, those systems have way more games and we know they will continue to get more.

So, as far as me and the Amico go, is a big no for me.

I fell for that crap with the Ouya. Sure, it was fun. But, I almost never played the thing. Then, they stoped it from working.

haha $299.

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ThanosReXXX

@Glowzinski Well, info on game pricing was already in the first video I posted about it, so that shouldn't have been any surprise, if you had watched that first. And obviously, you don't HAVE to get a founders edition of a console. The regular edition is going to be around $180 - 199, so that's a pretty decent price for it. And there's more info in the video as well, so you might still want to give it a watch.

As for the game prices: how much do you think completely remade versions of these games should cost, then? Probably 99 cents, because you're comparing them to smart phone efforts, but that's obviously not a fair comparison, seeing as this is a full blown console, and it isn't running on Android either, so comparing it to the Ouya is also not quite relevant.

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tendonerd

It's tough to give them love. Judging from how the forum spent a year wanting SNES games instead of nes games on switch I don't thing intellavision will get much love.

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Glowzinski

@ThanosReXXX I didn't watch the video. I read it online.

As for them remaking the games, it does not matter. They can spend a year remaking each one. Nobody is going to spend $10 on a bunch of games for this thing. It just will not happen.

Maybe they will buy a few. Then, as it sits there and they don't use it at all, they will realize it is rather pointless.

Your saying, $180 - $200 is a good price?

No way.

Who in the hell wants to spend that much money on a novelty?

If enough people do not buy the thing, nobody will want to waste their time making games for it. So, how many would have to buy to consider the thing a success?

The Ouya comparison makes perfect sense.

While they thing has games being made differently, it is still an over priced system with old games.

.99 cents per game, would to me, still be pushing the price.

I just cannot see this thing going anywhere.

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ThanosReXXX

@Glowzinski Well, I'm comparing it to other offerings. And if people are willing to spend almost 90 bucks on a SNES or Sega Genesis Mini, which is a simple flash-based emulator console, then an actual console, with proprietary hardware and touch screen controllers with force feedback costing $180 - $200 is DEFINITELY a decent price, no matter which way you look at it.

And the Ouya comparison does NOT make sense, because that was an Android based system, which was already outdated when it launched, and seeing as this system here is SPECIFICALLY meant to be a retro system, that doesn't apply to it.

And no offense, but the comment about the game is simply ridiculous. Development costs time, and thus money. These games are all being redone/re-imagined in a more modern way, it's not a simple dumping of the original ROM, so the prices are not only highly realistic, but pretty fair as well. Especially considering that back then, the original cartridges cost FAR more. And I'm saying this from my professional point of view as a sales & marketing rep.

I can understand and respect people not finding this interesting, because to each their own, but for fans of the original console, and retro lovers, this may very well be a VERY nice surprise in the market. So, for them, it's also not seen as or meant to be a novelty, but a worthy addition to their collection, and a nice trip down memory lane.

Guess we'll have to wait and see when it launches in October...

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Glowzinski

@ThanosReXXX I see what your saying.

The thing I said about the game prices was crazy. haha Twice a year, I get a sinus thing. I am so tired, dizzy and freezing, I would have said anything.

I do think the thing looks interesting. Don't get me wrong. I mean, the controller alone seems fun to use.

I wonder though, how long they will make games for the thing?

There seems to be so little known. I mean, have they ever shown the entire team talking about the thing? I am actually asking that because I've not watched all the videos.

I would hope it works out. They can make money, we can all have fun playing vintage games. It would be great. I actually just emailed them and asked a few questions. One, being, do they charge on order or when the item is about to ship. haha So, that means something.

I never play my NES or SNES classic. But, I have them to play.

I got a Dreamcast form Craigslist a few years ago. Never once have I played it.

I was not a fan of Xbox One. So, it just kind of sits here.

I never played my Ouya.

Point being, why would I care how long it lasts? haha I just like buying game systems.

After my brain injury, I started collecting movies. Then music, then games, then books. So, perhaps, it is game on.

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ThanosReXXX

@Glowzinski Well, that's of course always the big question, if it isn't one of the big three: how long will it last? None of us will know until the end is staring us right in the face. But for now, they seem to have their ducks in a row, got some decent developer support, amongst which the original Earthworm Jim team, and as mentioned, they didn't opt for a simple Android, clone or emulator device, so it certainly is quite a unique proposition in today's market.

As for the other consoles: I know that feeling. In fact, I've probably gone a step further in the recent past, such as buying games for a console that I didn't own yet, a year or so in advance, simply because I knew I was going to get it eventually, and certain titles simply need to be bought because they belong to that console or handheld. And I've also got both the Minis, AND the Genesis Mini, and I also have a Dreamcast. I don't play on any of them anymore, after having tried them out a couple of times and after having modded the Nintendo Minis, but I did need to own them, if only to complete my collection of Nintendo consoles, seeing as I started late, with the N64, so I never owned any of the previous ones.

But the Sega Dreamcast still sits in my living room, connected to my second TV, along with the GameCube, which I also don't use anymore, but what I still do, is boot one of them up, every other week, and let one of my favorite game series (SoulCalibur) run on it for a couple of hours. I do this every weekend.

Keeps the hardware in shape, and the games still look damn good after all these years, especially the first game in the series on the Dreamcast, considering how old it is...

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Darknyht

I am seeing a lot of repackaged Intellivision games with new technology skins and remixes, along with select retro and neo-retro titles on their site. I think this might find a niche at the right price, but there isn't a lot of Intellivision nostalgia out there. Heck I grew up with the system and outside some select titles I really love, they did not age well.

I just don't see how this finds a spot between Android/iOS gaming and console gaming. The minis work because they are pure, cheap, nostalgia in a simple package. This is a console trying to straddle the line.

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