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Topic: Birdo: He isn't a girl!

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PhillaLoup

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1. Posted:

According to the North American instruction manual of Super Mario Bros. 2:
"Birdo thinks he is a girl and likes to be called Birdetta. He likes to wear a bow on his head and shoot eggs from his mouth."

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Bass_X0

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2. Posted:

It was the eighties. People would not and did not make such a big deal about it back then. I remember it and all it got from me as a quiet laugh for a moment then I got on with playing the game.

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Omega

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3. Posted:

Birdo is the very first transsexual video game character. I don't have a problem with her.

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PhillaLoup

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4. Posted:

I have no problems with the sexual orientation of people or video game figures ... I just didn't know that with birdo ... always thought that he was the female counterpart to yoshi...

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TKOWL

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5. Posted:

so yoshi and birdo are

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StarBoy91

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6. Posted:

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Noire

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7. Posted:

Ahh, don't be so hard on the guy. I know how he feels.

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cheetahman91

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8. Posted:

In the SMB2 credits, wasn't Birdo that bird the shy guys rode and Ostro was that egg spitting thing?

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CrazyOtto

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9. Posted:

Read this comic, it has something about Birdo's gender at the end: http://brokenteapot.deviantart.com/art/Cutest-Couple-132651993

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warioswoods

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10. Posted:

GonzoMontana wrote:

I just didn't know that with birdo ... always thought that he was the female counterpart to yoshi...

That's still not entirely incorrect. Birdo has become the female counterpart to Yoshi; I don't believe there's a single reference to Birdo being anything but female in all its recent appearances. Nintendo often shifts its mythologies around a little.

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StarBoy91

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11. Posted:


Birdo is ANDROGYNOUS???????????? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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12. Posted:

..I bet that makes Yoshi gay, open-minded or just naive?
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malpon

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13. Posted:

Thats nothing compared to what we've seen bugs bunny do...

By the way has Yoshi's gender ever been confirmed said?

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Mabbit

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14. Posted:

thats very creepy because in a later game (Mario and luigi superstar saga) he has a crush on a male character named popple and constantly speacks with <3's and stuff

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Stuffgamer1

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15. Posted:

I was just reading up on this a couple days ago because of something I read in the comment on a comic on Brawl in the Family. It seems Nintendo of America has made efforts to hide this fact without outright denying it, usually by never using gender-specific pronouns to describe Birdo. They just do like I did in that last sentence.

In Japan, they have no real problem with the idea (big surprise). It's actually a major plot point in the Japan-only Wii game Captain Rainbow.

@briunj04: Explains why Popple isn't interested and hesities before calling Birdo a "Dame," doesn't it. Plus, Birdo asked to be referred to as "Birdie." It's the least subtle reference to Birdo's questionable gender America has had in YEARS!

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LztheQuackAdmin

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16. Posted:

buffalobob wrote:

..I bet that makes Yoshi gay, open-minded or just naive?
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None of the above. Yoshi doesn't have a gender.

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Stuffgamer1

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17. Posted:

Doesn't he? Clearly, you haven't heard the codec conversation regarding Yoshi in Brawl. That and many more can be found in this video.

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The_Ink_Pit_Ox

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18. Posted:

The manual says "He thinks he's a girl and shoots eggs from his mouth. He'd rather be called Birdetta." Birdo does not wear a bow in SMB2. She was initially male, but due to the bad translation, had to be changed to female.

This topic has been discussed ad nauseam.

Concerning Yoshi, he has always been male. Also, remember that he became a Mario character years after Birdo debuted. They wouldn't be seen together until after Birdo became female.

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19. Posted:

"at least, that's what it says"? I'm definitely convinced now.

Actually NoA refers to Yoshi as "he" despite the fact that all Yoshis lay eggs and sometimes baby Yoshis are born from them.

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Stuffgamer1

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20. Posted:

@StarFox: You didn't pay very much attention to my post detailing the situation, did you? NoA is AVOIDING the issue, but they never actually made Birdo female. NoJ happily plays with the issue even to this day. The makers of Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga somehow managed to sneak in references to the issue without NoA complaining.

@lz2009: My memory of that video had been missing that line.
Anyway, you agreed that he's accepted as a guy, so no problems!

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