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Topic: Any Other Players Wish That Paddle and Trackball Controllers will Someday Make a Come Back?

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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D pads, analog sticks and Wii Remotes are awesome, but there is something to be said about the quirky, lightening fast controllers from yesteryear. Anybody, else feel the same way?

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the_shpydar

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Yes. Yes. And Yes.

The Wiimote can sort of mimick their control style, but not exactly. I hate playing certain games without the trackball -- Missle Command and Centipede chief among them, though the control on the Atari2600 ports worked fine.

Other games i totally want a paddle -- some XBLA games i have in particular like Warlords and Discs of Tron (technically it orginally had a "spinner" knob, not a paddle, but still) are way annoying without one.

I want to get that paddle controller that Taito put out for the recent new Soace Invaders and Arkanoid DS games, but haven't been able to find it for a non-obscene price.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

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Finally!

It's good to know that some players still see the relevance in those classic controllers.

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DjPhatskillz

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totally. that would be so much fun. to think of all the games that could be played correctly? it will never happen though, i just don't think people care about that kinda stuff anymore.

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I agree.

Playing a remake of Warlords without a paddle just seems wierd to me.

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Rawk_Hawk

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If Centipede, Millipede, Crystal Castles, and Marble Madness show up on the VCA then I say Yes Yes Yes and Yes to a trackball controller

Also it would be great to get a controller specifically for Arkanoid and Tempest

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The paddle controller would work perfectly for Arknoid.

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the_shpydar

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There was a 3d party controller for the 360 a while back that was focused on XBLA and had a standard joystick and a spinner knob bulit into it for those XBLA games that applied. I was so set to pick it up until i looked at some reviews and heard some feedback from people on it; evidently it is considered one of the worst controllers out there this gen (horrbile design, cheap parts, etc). Sad.

And yes, Warlords is way weird without a paddle/knob. The control on XBLA is okay, but i miss the paddle. Good thing i still have my 2600 with all original controllers (as well as the 2600 paddle-only plug-N-play system) -- though i really should also pick up the 2600 trackball controller at some point just for Centipede, just have never seen a good/reliable condition one at a fair price.

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Thanks for the observation shpydar!

Recently, I actually bought a paddle controler for my Flashback 2.0 because there are 2 hidden paddles games on it: Warlords and Super Breakout! I love the classic feel of the paddle games...

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the_shpydar

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Yeah, i love that "hidden" feature of the Flashback 2! Really shows the love that went into putting the system out after the somewhat disappointing Flashback 1. That, and the fact that you can hack the Flashback 2 by soldering a cartridge slot to the board to have it function as a real 2600! I already have a modded 2600 (professionally done to include modern RCA A/V outputs -- yay crisp picture!) so never bothered to hack the Flashback, but still very cool nonetheless.

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Turbo_Genesis_64

11. Posted:

That's cool shpydar!

Is there a website to have your Flashback modified? And how much does it cost? And does it still play the games built in it?

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I know there's a few websites that give a step-by-step (some with pics), but i don't recall any specifically at the moment. I was going to do it myself until i got the modded 2600 i have now. There may be links on those sites to people who will mod it for you; i can't imagine there'd be too high a price tag.

From what i remember, it's not too much more involved than opening the Flashback and soldering a cartidge port to the board along with some other very minor wiring or soldering. I think all the Flashback-installed games are still playable; i believe the cartridge port is kind of a pass through, so that unless you have a cart plugged in, it goes to the regular Flashback menu.

Been a while since i read up on it though, so check it out. I think Atarimuseum.com has something on their site about it, possibly AtariAge.com as well.

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Turbo+Genesis+64 wrote:

Recently, I actually bought a paddle controler for my Flashback 2.0 because there are 2 hidden paddles games on it: Warlords and Super Breakout! I love the classic feel of the paddle games...

stoked i just bought a flashback 2 (its coming in the mail) after reading this thread. i cant freaking wait! how long are the cords from the controller to tv? hopefully decent right? about average couch to tv distance i hope? also where did you get the paddle controller? gotta get one of those...

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@DjPhatskillz:
The Flashback2 is set up kinda like a classic 2600 console, and the controllers used are actually original 2600 joysticks (or rather, new joysticks based off the original model). So the console is plugged to the TV (the cable included is i think the standard 3 or 4 feet), then the controllers into the console. I think the included controller cords are again about 3 to 4 feet. You can also use legacy (original system compatible) controllers, whose cord lengths may vary.

But yeah, should be long enough for average couch-to-TV distance; if not, it shouldn't be too hard to find extension cables for the controlers.

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@the shpydar the controllers are actual 2600 joysticks? so turbo genesis 64 probably just got a old school 2600 paddle controller to play break out and warlords?

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Exactly right. I believe i had read that they actually made the joysticks based exactly on the original design mold.

And correct regarding the paddles. You plug in legacy/old school 2600 Paddle controllers to the system, enter a "code" with the joystick (press up on the joystick 1 time, press down 9 times, press up 7 times, and press down 2 times) to access them. The code is "1972", for the first year Atari's Pong appeared, i believe.

By the way, congrats on the purchase. Hands down the best "plug-n-play" out there, and the next best thing to actually having a 2600 with a solid game library. They put so much love into making the Flashback2, right down to the box itself, which is very reminicent of the original Atari box graphics and marketing materials.

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DjPhatskillz wrote:

Turbo+Genesis+64 wrote:

Recently, I actually bought a paddle controler for my Flashback 2.0 because there are 2 hidden paddles games on it: Warlords and Super Breakout! I love the classic feel of the paddle games...

stoked i just bought a flashback 2 (its coming in the mail) after reading this thread. i cant freaking wait! how long are the cords from the controller to tv? hopefully decent right? about average couch to tv distance i hope? also where did you get the paddle controller? gotta get one of those...

Yea, I bought a set of paddle controllers off of e-bay and they work perfectly!

Warlords is the best 4 player party game of all-time!!!

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