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Dezzy

Is Xbox even trying to compete at this point? Man, when you've got completely destroyed in the 8th gen, you need to regroup and come back with your strongest game ever for the next gen launch, like Nintendo did with the Switch.

Oh well I guess the silver lining is that if no-one buys the new console, they'll be forced to release all of their new games on the Xbox One in order to keep gamepass subscribers. Lol. Suits me!

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Dezzy

Eugh if they are delaying it because of the graphic stuff, that means the Xbox One version will pretty much be done, but they just don't want to release it until the Series X version is looking good enough.

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NEStalgia

@redd214 I still don't see it. It already looked graphically great. Ray tracing or not, it was 4k60 hdr video which x1x could not do. X1x barely does 4k30 on x1x. Halo was already demonstrating the power of XSeX. Just hard to convey in a YouTube video and 4k30 cinematic action is more "marketable".

@Dezzy XSeX never should have launched in 2020. Too soon after x1x. The game studios acquisitions take years to play off and we're years away. 9th gen for xbox was never going to take off until 2022 at the earliest. They should have run with x1x and or sold x2x as a graphics update and ran with the gpu hardware model. Or not gimped x1x cpu to begin with. But they should have bought time past ps5 launch and then blown the doors off. I see where they wouldn't want to let Sony secure ps5s market....... But this is still half a launch which would have been better with a Switch to non generations..... Which theye kind of doing, but by moving to streaming.

Then again, who wants to compete with cyberpunk? The game everyone will buy and everyone will praise even if they secretly hate it. The more of it I see, the more uncertain i become. It looks more and more like torture porn sci fi.

@Octane the spider man dlc always looked great.... On ps4..... . So sony had ps4 dlc they're tarting up to force new hardware to play. Ms has a complete x1 game they won't sell you until they tart it up for someone else to feel special for buying new hardware

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Ralizah

They have the marketing rights to Cyberpunk, and even launched a CP2077 themed One X.

It's going to be the biggest game of the holiday season.

I fully expect them to market/bundle/etc. the hell out of that game with their new console. They're stupid if they don't.

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Anti-Matter

Xbox series X will be released very soon on this year.
But something that still hanging on my mind was about Fully Backward Compatible on Xbox series X.
What was that really mean?
Was that mean Xbox series X will be compatible with ALL previous Xbox games by disc, including Dance Dance Revolution and Kinect games from Xbox 360 because they said Fully BC ?

Because if NOT, I can consider Xbox 360 E model instead.

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Dezzy

@Anti-Matter

I don't think Kinect games are included I'm afraid. I might be wrong though.

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redd214

@NEStalgia Like I said, I'll be playing at 1080P/30 probably at most anyways so all that isn't the issue at all. It looks good, fun to play definitely wouldn't call it great by any means though. Point I'm making is in marketing/sales the expectations you place in your customers mind beforehand make a huge difference in their perception of your product. By them yelling from the mountaintops for a year + saying "we have the most powerful console ever" then showing off their flagship game, from their most important franchise, that's been in development for years, and has hundreds of millions behind it for it to look not that much better than a current gen game or even a remaster is on them and I can understand the (reasonable) disappointment. It's like a car company saying "we've made the most powerful production engine ever" then showing a video of them riding around town picking up groceries and running errands at 40 mph max lol.

If you think it looks great that's cool, sincerely hope you enjoy it and I hope I do as well

@Anti-Matter No one cares about the Dance Dance games but you lol, they're not going to take the time to make those BC not to mention the licensing headache involved with the music. Kinect isn't compatible with the Series X without an adapter I believe. You should probably just go with the 360 E.

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Grumblevolcano

Searching "Xbox Series X pre order" on google comes up with "PRE-ORDER NOW" for the xbox.com Series X page. Between the cancelling of Xbox 20/20, the Series S "worst kept secret" situation and this I'd guess preorders are starting very soon like in a few days for example.

@Anti-Matter Current situation is no Kinect games and no games that aren't currently playable on XB1. For the stuff you want, Xbox 360 would be the best option currently but you may want to wait incase anything changes.

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NEStalgia

@Anti-Matter Kinect is a legacy accessory. The required inputs won't exist, so no Kinect game can be supported.

Also, x1 bc still has to have a new patch to work, and games with licences (music, cars, movies, tv shows, toys, etc.) Can't legally have that done. We do not know for sure though if that's true on XSeX. It probably is but we don't know for sure yet. But Kinect games absolutely can't be bc because the hardware required is not supported anymore. Just like the reason Forza games like Horizon 3 get delisted (or Golden eye for nintendo vc), they paid for time limited distribution of the 3rd party content (actual car designs, movie characters and brand, and in DDR's case, music. Once the contract expires they can never sell it again.

@redd214 It's just a shame the audience doesn't understand that they're seeing. "Looking next gen" isn't just about gfx. 4k60 takes tremendous power under the hood. Double the pixels of x1xs best. That "is" next gen graphics. But it doesn't showcase like a 30hz game using that extra power for effects.

Heck, in the pc realm people are laughing at 60hz. 144hz+ is all the rage. Granted 4k 144hz screens cost mad money... Most are 1440p VA panels. And it surely takes dialing the effects down. Halo was next gen already, definitely.

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@DarthNocturnal yeah, it would almost need real ppc hardware for native non ported bc. And that's not happening... Sony learned that the hard way with ps3 "now it's bc, now it's not!"

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Dezzy

Ok so I started replaying the Halo games. I only ever played Halo 1&2 back in the day, so I'm redoing the whole lot with the MCC before Infinite comes out.

Man I forgot how fun Halo 1 is. Really well made game. The only thing that really stands out as being a sign of its age, is how simple and limited the environments are. It's like really noticeable that they could only use like 5 or 6 different textures at any given time.

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redd214

@Dezzy I'm actually currently playing through the series too. Should have 3 done be the weekend. I can definitely see why folks liked them back in the day, fun games for sure!

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Dezzy

@redd214

I can't even remember which game the core fans liked the most. Was it 2? All I know is it wasn't 4 or 5.

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Justifier

@Dezzy
I'd say 3. Many players did not like playing as Arbiter, and 2 has an awful cliffhanger ending. It's multiplayer was gold.

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redd214

@Dezzy not sure honestly, didn't grow up with a Xbox so Halo Fandom is largely a blind spot for me.

@Justifier yeah that "ending" was just bad. I literally played thru the last level 3 times thinking it had glitched or something before reading online and realizing lol!

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Dezzy

@Justifier

Well in terms of the metacritic user ratings, it goes as follows:

Halo 1> Halo 2> Halo Reach > Halo 3> Halo3 ODST>Halo 4 > Halo 5

Lol so it's basically got worse over time. Although you need to take into account that there's a big novelty factor for the first major title in a series. It's the same thing you see with Mario 64.

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Grumblevolcano

Turns out the reason Infinite got delayed was to release the game as a full package rather than releasing it in pieces. So probably would've been like Halo 5 where stuff like key multiplayer features aren't present at launch.

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NEStalgia

When did reach become well loved? It was an internet rage machine when it launched. I still have my launch edition in shrink wrap!

1 can't be replaced it duplicated. The gameplay is clearly dated with repetitive hallways, but what it was when it came out was nothing short of amazing. Even if it's not the best game.

2 was terrible. Anything focusing on the flood is terrible. Bungee thought we loved the flood for some reason even though it ruined the unique tactical gameplay. 3 was amazing. Reach, at the time, was panned. That was bungies exit.

I've always adored odst, honestly. Probably my most remembered Halo. It's the black sheep of the Halo family, but the tone, pace, mood, design was just great and contrasted with MCs shield based melee speed beautifully. It's underrated severely.

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