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BlueOcean

@DarthNocturnal Agreed. It's worth getting an Xbox One just for that compilation (it's not a game) and it was 30 because of the 30 years, 30 games. That is €£$ 1 per game including rare game Conker's Bad Fur Day (N64). And now it's on Game Pass and X-enhanced too.

BlueOcean

Eel

I bought dragon age last time it went down. It’s pretty addictive once the story gets going.

It reminds me I should finish it some day, I lost the loop after going out on a vacation and haven’t played since.

Bloop.

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ThanosReXXX

@Morpheel I agree with your verdict. Very solid game, but it is a bit slow going at first. I've got all the Dragon Age games on Xbox 360, and I've found all of them to be well worth the time and money, if you like this type of game.

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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean Dragon Age: Inquisition very EA-ified if you're familiar with the masterpiece of Origins. But it improved some of the flaws of II at least. It's not a bad game, but don't go into it expecting old Bioware...it's Bioware + EA just as Mass Effect 3 is. It's...."streamlined".... But it's not inherently bad.

And any chance to get more dialog with Claudia Black as Kate Mulgrew's daughter is worth the price

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JoakimZ

@NEStalgia It is subjective of course, I think both DA2 and especially Inquisition is much better than Origins.

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@JoakimZ Well, I suppose one thing to keep in mind I forget: DA:O was NEVER meant for consoles. It was a PC game through and through. The console port controls awkwardly, and has a weird over the shoulder camera system it wasn't designed for. I played the original on PC, so I tend to forget that aspect (I have it on X1 BC, but I haven't gone back and revisited it more than a little.)

On PC the original was a top-down isometric game just like the Infinity Engine games (Baldur's Gate I & II, Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale.) The console port wasn't part of the original design, the game started development right after BGII launched, so 2000 or so, and artwork shows it was started at least months prior, so 1999 in all liklihood. Purely a mouse driven point and click CRPG. EA created the console port of the game and instead of adapting it as a top down clicker controlled with sticks like sane and rational people, they tried to make it an action game. Eww. EA....

So...yeah. The first game is definitely the better GAME. The pacing, the settings, the story, the diversity of environments and player path choosing, questing, story points etc were all better and designed similarly to the previous all-PC classics they way they should have been played.

EA butchered the port into an over the shoulder action game. Then made the two sequels mostly over the shoulder action games to consol-ify them. In that way, you're right, the sequels were better console games than the butchered console port of the first. But the first game is still the better overall game.

Meanwhile, many years later, all of the original Infinity Engine games are coming to Switch/X1/PS4....properly adapted with sticks as an isometric interface. The way EA should have done DA:O! If it weren't EA I'd say there's hope of a remaster...but...it's EA.

(Not to mention Pillars of Eternity and Tides of Numenara, also being properly fit to consoles as classic isometric games. Respectively by Obsidian and inExile, now part of MS Game Studios, previously the two halves of Interplay/Black Isle that worked on the originals)

TL;DR: EA Fubared the console port of DA:O but it was the better game otherwise

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BlueOcean

Thank you all for the input but @NEStalgia what do you mean with "any chance to get more dialog with Claudia Black as Kate Mulgrew's daughter is worth the price"?

BlueOcean

NEStalgia

@BlueOcean Claudia is always awesome in anything, and those two interacting together is generally hilarious, even when it's not supposed to be

In case you're unfamiliar they are both VAs in the series. Claudia has also done numerous other games, notably the uncharted series but also others i can't think of right now. She's more known for her roles in Farscape and Stargate SG1 (effectively reprising her Farscape role opposite Ben Browder. Mulgrew is best known as Cap. Janeway in star trek Voyager, and is almost a Katherine Hepburn pastiche.

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BlueOcean

I haven't played any Dragon Age game yet but I got Origins and II with Gold and they look interesting so I will definitely play them. Inquisition for a few pounds/euros/dollars can't be a bad deal but would people pay seven more for having Andromeda as well? :S

Oh yes, EA, we are still waiting for the Mass Effect remastered trilogy...

BlueOcean

NEStalgia

@BlueOcean by most accounts Inquisition is better than II. II isn't bad but it was clearly rushed and very "EAed"... It wasn't well received at launch, but people warmed to it later. Inquisition compromised a bit between origins vision and II as a "sorry we borked the game" sequel. With all the DLC in the complete editions it's definitely worth it. Though Andromeda is probably worth it to. Im only for partly into it but it's actually decent. Fan backlash killed it early, but imo it's problem isn't actually the game, it was the completely broken pre alpha state they launched it in. People rightfully rejected paying $60 for broken junk, but the game under it, once they fixed it, is kind of cool. To late to save the series or bioware from the chopping block, unfortunately...

Also it was one of the few games that ran badly on x1, but ran great on ps4 pro. They stealth patched it last fall and it's now x1x enhanced.

EA is weird. On the rare occasions they do right by their customers, they hide it and pretend they didn't

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BlueOcean

I haven't played Andromeda but yes, the biggest problem was that the game was launched before it was properly tested. However, I'm a bit tired of open-world games to be honest so I'm not sure I need another.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Maybe EA stands for "Extreme Autism", because they're still very much in denial, and in their own bubble. If you make statements like "micro-transactions can be done right", then you're already completely out of touch with what gamers really want.

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BlueOcean

All true but they also publish awesome indie games like Unravel.

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SNES64DD

@BlueOcean Don't know about that. Could be just me but EA is mostly boring beyond a few Bioware games and Star Wars.

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@BlueOcean Andromeda isn't open world in the open world sense of a Ubisoft game IMO. EA doesn't do "open world" quite in that sense. Much as I hate EA, I like the "scripted open world style" they use in their open worlds. Instead of a Ubisoft/Rockstar "sandbox" it's just an open world that you can deviate or approach the script your own way, but it's still mostly scripted. The Saboteur, Andromeda, Mirror's Edge, etc, all follow that. In that regard they're about as open world as FFVII or IX (which is to say much more open than X or XIII, but not as much as XV, or a Ubisoft/Rockstar game.) Andromeda does it the way you'd expect an actual space exploration mission (gone wrong) to go. Plus ME1 was properly "open world" in the classic RPG sense. It was 2 and 3 that turned the game into on-rails shooters.

Yeah their indie publishing has picked up - I remember when that's mostly what they did was publish third parties...remember when publishers were....publishers? Rather than monolithic mega studios?

@ThanosReXXX I remember when EA and MS shared a lot of revolving door management and seemed to have an aligned (poisonous) view of the future of gaming. Now it's the other way around and EA and Sony seem to be issuing eerily similar sounding comments. There's chatter in the PS4 thread about just how gross Sony's getting - focusing on big publishers only (with a fairly overt anti-indie bent), their sky's the limit hardware specs they're dripping details on that hint at a $600 or above console release, focusing not on mass market but on the "high margin niche of dedicated buyers", focused on buying exclusivity or timed exclusivity of the biggest games, etc. etc. It's very EA-like thinking going on there. It's everything that was wrong with late 360, early X1 era MS going on right now on team blue.

You'd appreciate the little ad picture I put together there: (Link to PS thread so as not to cross post:)
https://www.nintendolife.com/forums/other_gaming/the_playstat...

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Grumblevolcano

New Game Pass games:
Shadow of War
My Time at Portia
Undertale (PC only)
Blazing Chrome
Dead Rising 4
Lego City Undercover (XB1 only)
Timespinner (PC only)
Unavowed (PC only)

Also Game Pass owners get early access to Gears 5 Tech Test.

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DarthNocturnal

Lego City Undercover you say?!

Oh, and I guess the Gears 5 thing is cool too. Although I've barely touched the Gears series.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia (damn, he actually did it, dragged me into the PS4 thread... )
So, sounds like PS3 launch date price all over again then, huh?

Good ad picture.

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